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Category:Sports clubs and teams in Kisvárda

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge and delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 13:36, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Sports clubs and teams in Kaposvár (3 P) to Category:Kaposvár
 * Propose merging Category:Sports clubs and teams in Kisvárda (1 C, 2 P) to Category:Kisvárda
 * Propose deleting sport in kisvárda
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:37, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:33, 11 June 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Athletics (track and field) in Canada

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 13:12, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Athletics (track and field) in Canada to Category:Athletics in Canada
 * Nominator's rationale: see the names in Category:Athletics by country Estopedist1 (talk) 20:00, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment - it's Category:Athletics (track and field) in North America. Oculi (talk) 20:25, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Neutral This naming was done on the basis that in Canadian English the term "athletics" may be understood as Athletics (physical culture) rather than sport of athletics. If the term is not ambiguous in Canadian English then I have no opposition to the rename as stated. The current rationale is non-relevant as this is an English variation issue (see Category:Track and field in the United States). SFB 20:25, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Neutral/Leave Redirect if Renamed I'll defer to other (Canadian?) editors on the WP:ENGVAR issue. But if it's renamed, please leave the redirect so this doesn't just get recreated later . - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:58, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Ping Your CFD contributions are always appreciated and might be especially helpful here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:02, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Bearcat the ping'd is going to have to go with the oppose on ENGVAR grounds option here, I'm afraid. Per Athletics (physical culture), "in the modern English language the term athletics has taken on two distinct meanings. Its meaning in American English broadly denotes human physical sports and their respective systems of training, the sense described in this article. The other, narrower principal meaning of the word comes from British English and variants within the British Commonwealth; this meaning of athletics refers solely to the concept of the sport of athletics (a category of sporting competition that comprises track and field sports and various forms of foot racing), rather than physical sport in general." The challenge for Canada, of course, is that although we're a Commonwealth country that doesn't mean that we always align with Commonwealth usages in every Commonwealth-vs-US divergence: sometimes we do, sometimes (truck vs. lorry) we don't, and sometimes (DMY vs. MDY date formatting) we get both usages coexisting in a tug-of-war. This one falls under the tug-of-war banner: the national governing body for the sport is called Athletics Canada (where the American equivalent is called USA Track & Field), so the British usage clearly exists, but the word is also used in the more American sense, such as by U Sports (formerly the "Canadian Interuniversity Athletic Union") and the Canadian Collegiate Athletic Association, both of which include varsity team sports in their mandates. So where the US clearly uses "track and field" instead of "athletics", and most other countries clearly use "athletics" instead of "track and field", the Canadian category was stuck having to somehow juggle both usages, as I just don't see a terribly compelling argument that one usage can be clearly privileged over the other. I am noticing a couple of other oddities in the tree, however:, comprising a random sample of articles that are already in the tree in other ways anyway?  separately existing as a subcategory of this? So there'll be some other things coming to CFD shortly. That said, I would recommend creating the proposed rename as a redirect to the existing category to minimize any potential confusion, which is what I also intend to do with the "track and field" subcategory I mentioned above. Bearcat (talk) 14:22, 17 June 2023 (UTC)


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Crime-related lists

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 12:55, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Afghanistan crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Afghanistan-related lists and Category:Crime in Afghanistan
 * Propose merging Category:Albania crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Albania-related lists and Category:Crime in Albania
 * Propose merging Category:Argentina crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Argentina-related lists and Category:Crime in Argentina
 * Propose merging Category:Armenia crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Armenia-related lists and Category:Crime in Armenia
 * Propose merging Category:Bangladesh crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Bangladesh-related lists and Category:Crime in Bangladesh
 * Propose merging Category:China crime-related lists‎ (2 P) to Category:China-related lists and Category:Crime in China
 * Propose merging Category:Cuba crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Cuba-related lists and Category:Crime in Cuba
 * Propose merging Category:France crime-related lists‎ (2 P) to Category:France-related lists and Category:Crime in France
 * Propose merging Category:Guatemala crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Guatemala-related lists and Category:Crime in Guatemala
 * Propose merging Category:Indonesia crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Indonesia-related lists and Category:Crime in Indonesia
 * Propose merging Category:Iraq crime-related lists‎ (1 C) to Category:Crime in Iraq
 * Propose merging Category:Ireland crime-related lists‎ (2 P) to Category:Ireland-related lists and Category:Crime in Ireland
 * Propose merging Category:Japan crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Japan-related lists and Category:Crime in Japan
 * Propose merging Category:Lebanon crime-related lists‎ (2 P) to Category:Lebanon-related lists and Category:Crime in Lebanon
 * Propose merging Category:Malaysia crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Malaysia-related lists and Category:Crime in Malaysia
 * Propose merging Category:Mexico crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Mexico-related lists and Category:Crime in Mexico
 * Propose merging Category:Nepal crime-related lists‎ (2 P) to Category:Nepal-related lists and Category:Crime in Nepal
 * Propose merging Category:Netherlands crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Netherlands-related lists and Category:Crime in the Netherlands
 * Propose merging Category:New Zealand crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:New Zealand-related lists and Category:Crime in New Zealand
 * Propose merging Category:North Macedonia crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:North Macedonia-related lists and Category:Crime in North Macedonia
 * Propose merging Category:Saudi Arabia crime-related lists‎ (2 P) to Category:Saudi Arabia-related lists and Category:Crime in Saudi Arabia
 * Propose merging Category:Somalia crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Somalia-related lists and Category:Crime in Somalia
 * Propose merging Category:South Africa crime-related lists‎ (2 P) to Category:South Africa-related lists and Category:Crime in South Africa
 * Propose merging Category:Soviet Union crime-related lists‎ (2 P) to Category:Soviet Union-related lists and Category:Crime in the Soviet Union
 * Propose merging Category:Sri Lanka crime-related lists‎ (3 P) to Category:Sri Lanka-related lists and Category:Crime in Sri Lanka
 * Propose merging Category:Sweden crime-related lists‎ (2 P) to Category:Sweden-related lists and Category:Crime in Sweden
 * Propose merging Category:Syria crime-related lists‎ (2 P) to Category:Syria-related lists and Category:Crime in Syria
 * Propose merging Category:Tunisia crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Tunisia-related lists and Category:Crime in Tunisia
 * Propose merging Category:Yemen crime-related lists‎ (1 P) to Category:Yemen-related lists and Category:Crime in Yemen
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:35, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge all per nom assuming that each page is likely already somewhere in Category:Crime-related lists. –Aidan721 (talk) 22:16, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to ??? if upmerging, why not to XXXX-law-related lists which is the next level up? Hugo999 (talk) 04:58, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Most articles already are in a subcat, e.g. Category:Terrorism-related lists, but you are right that this should be checked manually, to be listed at WP:CFDWM, before merging. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 13 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge for Now with no objection to reacreating any that exceed expectations and reach 5+ articles. (Support a manual review based on the Hugo000/Marcocapelle conversation above.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:05, 17 June 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Kingdom of Ireland emigrants to the Thirteen Colonies
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Category:Secretaries of the Secretariat of the Communist Youth League
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 12:49, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting secretaries of the secretariat of the communist youth league
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, very minor office, the three people in the category weren't even first secretaries. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:03, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Each of the 3 are already well categorized in multiple, more defining politician categories. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:08, 17 June 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Chinese military personnel by dynasty
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 12:48, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Chinese military personnel by dynasty to Category:Chinese military personnel
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Most dynasties only have a "generals" subcategory rather than "military personnel". Marcocapelle (talk) 06:50, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge Per nom. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:06, 17 June 2023 (UTC)


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Han dynasty government officials by modern province
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 12:48, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Anhui to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Beijing to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Gansu to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Guangxi to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Chongqing to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Hebei to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Henan to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Hubei to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Hunan to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Jiangsu to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Liaoning to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Shaanxi to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Shandong to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Shanxi to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Sichuan to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Tianjin to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Yunnan to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Propose merging Category:Han dynasty politicians from Zhejiang to Category:Han dynasty government officials
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, trivial intersection between ancient government officials and modern provinces. If kept, at least rename "politicians" to "government officials" per this earlier discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete I'm not seeing how this modern geography grouping would aid navigation for readers, per WP:OCLOCATION. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:09, 17 June 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Films with screenplays by Yumiko Inoue
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 12:47, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting films with screenplays by yumiko inoue
 * Nominator's rationale: Redlink writer. It's typical for creative works by person to only exist if there is a biography on a notable creator. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:17, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Films with screenplays by writer
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 12:47, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films with screenplays by writer to Category:Films with screenplays by writer nationality
 * Nominator's rationale: It's not a listing by writer name or something, but a category tree by nationality. Note that I recategorized this to Category:Works by writer nationality as well. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:03, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose for now. You've actually created a pretty much duplicate category with Category:Films by screenwriter with a different naming convention. Renaming this is pretty much pointless as it would leave a single category in the new parent you created. Gonnym (talk) 16:08, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I am not following this. Which category did User:Koavf create? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Category:Films by screenwriter. Gonnym (talk) 07:02, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * It's not redundant. See, e.g. Category:Albums by artist and Category:Albums by artist nationality. They are just two different schemes. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:54, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Category:Albums by artist has categories other than by nationality. What other categories does this one have? Gonnym (talk) 07:03, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Opposing the rename does not seem to help to overcome this problem. The proposed name is still more accurate w.r.t. the category content. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:07, 13 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Rename per actual content. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:59, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Films with screenplays by Eché Janga
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 12:46, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting films with screenplays by eché janga
 * Nominator's rationale: Redlink writer. It's typical for creative works by person to only exist if there is a biography on a notable creator. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:30, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Films with screenplays by Esther Duysker
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 12:46, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting films with screenplays by esther duysker
 * Nominator's rationale: Redlink writer. It's typical for creative works by person to only exist if there is a biography on a notable creator. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:29, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Republic of Korea Presidential Unit Citation
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 12:46, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting recipients of the republic of korea presidential unit citation
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD
 * Republic of Korea Presidential Unit Citation is a South Korean military unit award which is awarded to military units which participated in the Korean War and subsequent American military units within the United States Forces Korea. The award is not defining and is retroactively awarded to individuals who served in the military units rather than individually being awarded. Toadboy123 (talk) 04:04, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Since this effectively became a campaign medal in practice, it's clearly against WP:OCAWARD. - RevelationDirect (talk) 04:33, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 06:52, 14 June 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Breed 77
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 12:45, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting breed 77
 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary eponymous category for two subcats which already are interlinked. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 00:33, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OCEPON. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Faraday Lecturers
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 12:45, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting Category:Faraday Lecturers
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:PERFCAT, WP:OCAWARD & WP:NONDEFINING
 * The Royal Society of Chemistry hosts the Faraday Lectureship Prize and this category groups people who gave the talk. Speakers receive £5000, a medal and a certificate. This performance sure isn't treated as defining in the articles, generally getting a passing reference with other honours. The category contents are already listed right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Background We've deleted similar academics by lecture categories here, here, here and here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Royal Society of Chemistry Local Sections
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 12:46, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose Upmerging Category:Royal Society of Chemistry Local Sections to Category:Royal Society of Chemistry
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT
 * The Royal Society of Chemistry is a prominent national British group that has 35 local chapters called "Local Sections". I have no conceptual objection to the category but we only have 1 article--South Wales West Local Section--and establishing notability for more will be challenging. (If I'm wrong and 5+ articles emerge, no objection to recreating this category later.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 *  Delete Merge per nom, and the notability of its only article is also questionable. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Not trying to change your iVote but the nom was to merge. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:13, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair point. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:16, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


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