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Category:Northern Yuan rulers

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename/delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  16:37, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Northern Yuan rulers to Category:Northern Yuan khans
 * Propose deleting Category:10th-century Mongol rulers per WP:SMALLCAT (1 item)
 * Propose deleting Category:11th-century Mongol rulers per WP:SMALLCAT (1 item)
 * Propose renaming Category:12th-century Mongol rulers to Category:12th-century Mongol khans
 * Propose renaming Category:13th-century Mongol rulers to Category:13th-century Mongol khans
 * Propose renaming Category:14th-century Mongol rulers to Category:14th-century Mongol khans
 * Propose renaming Category:15th-century Mongol rulers to Category:15th-century Mongol khans
 * Propose renaming Category:16th-century Mongol rulers to Category:16th-century Mongol khans
 * Propose renaming Category:17th-century Mongol rulers to Category:17th-century Mongol khans
 * Propose renaming Category:18th-century Mongol rulers to Category:18th-century Mongol khans
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:C2C per parent Category:Mongol khans. (Category:Northern Yuan rulers also WP:C2D per List of Northern Yuan khans). Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:46, 18 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Support per nom, but presumably Category:10th-century Mongol rulers and Category:11th-century Mongol rulers should be merged to Category:10th-century Mongolian people and Category:11th-century Mongolian people respectively. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:53, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * No, because Category:Mongolian people is a nationality, it refers to people from Mongolia (that is, citizens/subjects of the country of Mongolia). Category:Mongols are an ethnic group that is not bound to any country or geography (although they largely originated in present-day Mongolia). Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 13:30, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair point, it means that Category:10th-century Mongolian people should be nominated for renaming to Category:10th-century Mongol people. And siblings too. But for now, let us not lose relevant articles for that category. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:47, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Or just to Category:10th-century Mongols. No need to add "people", that's not in this cat tree. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:28, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Follow-up nomination, see here. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:28, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. --Skovl (talk) 14:53, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Sarmatian rulers

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  16:37, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Sarmatian rulers to Category:Sarmatian monarchs
 * Nominator's rationale: All people in the category are identified as "kings", except one "queen" and one "prince". Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:37, 18 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:55, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. --Skovl (talk) 14:53, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Biographies about reformers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  16:38, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Biographies about reformers to Category:Biographies about religious figures
 * Nominator's rationale: Contains only one page, about a bio of Sunni Muslim scholar and reformer Ilyas Kandhlawi. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:13, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:15, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:05, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge


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Category:Preshevo Valley

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  16:38, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Preshevo Valley to Category:Geography of Serbia
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 21:10, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:34, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom, possibly to Category:Geographical regions of Serbia instead. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:08, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Geographical regions of Serbia


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Hampton Pirates basketball categories

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  16:39, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Hampton Pirates men's basketball to Category:Hampton Pirates basketball
 * Propose renaming Category:Hampton Pirates men's basketball coaches to Category:Hampton Pirates basketball coaches
 * Propose renaming Category:Hampton Pirates men's basketball players to Category:Hampton Pirates basketball players
 * Nominator's rationale: Consistency with established naming conventions and the main article; Hampton's men's and women's teams are known by separate names (Pirates and Lady Pirates), so the gender descriptor is unnecessary. fuzzy510 (talk) 18:46, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:31, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:02, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support


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Category:Administrative divisions of ancient China

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  16:39, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Administrative divisions of ancient China to Category:Administrative divisions of Imperial China
 * Nominator's rationale: rename (and purge Category:Provinces of ancient China), apart from this one subcategory all content of the category is about Imperial China rather than Ancient China. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:55, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:31, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support


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Category:Agent-oriented programming languages

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  16:40, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting agent-oriented programming languages
 * Nominator's rationale: There is already Category:Agent-based programming languages. Geysirhead (talk) 15:39, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment This category has been emptied by nominator. Liz Read! Talk! 01:12, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as a redundant category that has been emptied out of process. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 02:36, 23 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Viking rulers

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 * The result of the discussion was: combine (as per WAS). (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  16:43, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Viking rulers to Category:Norse monarchs outside Scandinavia
 * Propose renaming Category:Viking Age monarchs to Category:Norse monarchs
 * Nominator's rationale (Viking rulers): This is the definition currently given at Category:Viking Age monarchs. "Viking rulers" is too vague, moreover "Viking" is in Category:Pirates and Category:Medieval piracy, which may not necessarily apply to all these Norse monarchs outside Scandinavia.
 * Nominator's rationale (Viking Age monarchs): The definition given is essentially all Norse / North Germanic monarchs in Denmark, Sweden and Norway in the 8th to 11th century. "Viking Age monarchs" is just not clear enough, because it doesn't necessarily mean the monarchs in question were "Vikings", just that they reigned during the "Viking Age". It's also not clear they were all "pirates". We should call them "Norse", as they are in Category:Norsemen, and it is how the category is described, and its subcats work. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:36, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:24, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Combine the two to Category:Norse monarchs. Agree with nom for 95%, but "outside Scandinavia" is an unnecessary case of WP:OCMISC. Besides, once renamed, a few articles should be manually moved to Category:Vikings as not all are clearly monarchs. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:16, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * That's a good idea, I wouldn't mind that solution at all. I had my doubts already but you've confirmed them. Let's see what others think. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:22, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Combine the two to Category:Norse monarchs per Marco. Laurel Lodged (talk) 17:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename Category:Viking Age monarchs to Category:Norse monarchs, then Merge Category:Viking rulers to Category:Norse monarchs, preserving history.


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Category:Mongol rulers
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename & reparent. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  16:45, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Mongol rulers to Category:Mongol monarchs.
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:C2C. Parent is Category:Asian monarchs, children are "monarchs" (Timurids and Chobanids) or "khans" (the rest). Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:05, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * PS: Re-parent from Category:Mongolian people (=people from Mongolia) to Category:Mongols (=ethnic group), because many of these Mongol monarchs weren't born in Mongolia itself anymore, and probably never visited it, as they spent their reigns in other parts of Asia or even Europe. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:30, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:23, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename and re-parent per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:22, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename and re-parent — monarchs by occupation, not "born" in Mongolia.


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Category:China expeditions
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 * The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  16:46, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:China expeditions to Category:Expeditions in China
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, better grammar. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:45, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:16, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to parents Category:Asian expeditions and Category:History of China — WP:SMALLCAT — if kept, it would be "to" matching siblings "to India" and "to the Himilayas".
 * Yes, merging is fine too, with the limited number of articles in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:18, 26 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional detectives
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 * The result of the discussion was: Split to Category:Superhero detectives (as already done) (non-admin closure) * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:04, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose purging fictional detectives
 * Nominator's rationale: purge superheroes from this category. While superheroes undoubtedly do some amateur detective work too, I do not think it is helpful to have them in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:17, 18 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Maybe this should be argued case by case. The category seems justified for Moon Knight, e.g. "Mr. Knight works with the NYPD investigating police cases." The occult detective John Constantine need not be kept in this category as he is in the psychic & occult detective sub-cat. Batman has a citation for "Batman is regarded as one of the world's greatest detectives, if not the world's greatest crime solver," but is in a sub-cat for gentlemen detectives. Would it satisfy your misgivings to create a new category of superhero detectives? – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:27, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The latter might be an alternative. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:23, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:06, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep and create a Category:Superhero detectives, per Fayenatic london. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 02:34, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Split to Category:Superhero detectives, per Fayenatic london. Split is a Purge. Assuming there are a dozen of them.
 * ✅ there are 52. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:21, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Marcocapelle, done what?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1679935659051:WikipediaFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Log/2023_March_18" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  16:47, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I created subCategory:Superhero detectives. The discussion can be closed as moot. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:26, 27 March 2023 (UTC)


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College baseball independents seasons
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  16:47, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:1877 college baseball independents season to Category:1877 college baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1893 college baseball independents season to Category:1893 college baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1949 NCAA baseball independents season to Category:1949 NCAA baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1950 NCAA baseball independents season to Category:1950 NCAA baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1951 NCAA baseball independents season to Category:1951 NCAA baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1952 NCAA baseball independents season to Category:1952 NCAA baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1953 NCAA baseball independents season to Category:1953 NCAA baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1954 NCAA baseball independents season to Category:1954 NCAA baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1955 NCAA baseball independents season to Category:1955 NCAA baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1957 NCAA baseball independents season to Category:1957 NCAA University Division baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1958 NCAA University Division baseball independents season to Category:1958 NCAA University Division baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1960 NCAA University Division baseball independents season to Category:1960 NCAA University Division baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1961 NCAA University Division baseball independents season to Category:1961 NCAA University Division baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1962 NCAA University Division baseball independents season to Category:1962 NCAA University Division baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1963 NCAA University Division baseball independents season to Category:1963 NCAA University Division baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1965 NCAA University Division baseball independents season to Category:1965 NCAA University Division baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1967 NCAA University Division baseball independents season to Category:1967 NCAA University Division baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1968 NCAA University Division baseball independents season to Category:1968 NCAA University Division baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1969 NCAA University Division baseball independents season to Category:1969 NCAA University Division baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1970 NCAA University Division baseball independents season to Category:1970 NCAA University Division baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1974 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1974 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1975 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1975 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1977 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1977 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1978 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1978 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1979 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1979 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1980 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1980 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1981 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1981 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1982 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1982 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1984 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1984 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1985 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1985 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1986 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1986 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1988 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1988 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1989 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1989 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1992 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1992 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1994 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1994 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1995 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1995 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1996 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1996 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1997 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1997 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1998 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1998 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:1999 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:1999 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:2001 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:2001 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:2003 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:2003 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:2004 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:2004 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:2009 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:2009 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Propose merging Category:2013 NCAA Division I baseball independents season to Category:2013 NCAA Division I baseball season
 * Nominator's rationale: Most seasons have 1 or 2 articles with no more than 3 in a season. Softly fails WP:OCMISC as being independent means not being in a conference. Independent is not a conference itself. Merge to main category for season. Optionally create a YYYY season by team category and populate with other articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aidan721 (talk • contribs)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:02, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:52, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge


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