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Category:Finnish politicians with disabilities
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Category:Major League Baseball websites

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  11:36, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting major league baseball websites
 * Nominator's rationale: The only article in this category that is a "Major League Baseball website" is MLB.com. The rest of the websites were not created by MLB, are not operated by MLB, are not affiliated with MLB, are not sponsored by MLB and do not even cover MLB exclusively. This is the only sports league with its own "[Sports League] websites" category. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 20:54, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:37, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete None of the third-party websites are specifically about MLB, apart from Baseball-Reference.com and FanGraphs. All are now in the parent category Category:Baseball websites. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 01:04, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:24, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete


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Category:Companies based in Chieti

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  11:38, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Companies based in Chieti to Category:Chieti and Category:Companies based in the Province of Chieti
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. One entry. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:31, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:38, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 01:05, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support


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Category:Mass media in Pescara

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  11:38, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Mass media in Pescara to Category:Pescara
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. One article. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:26, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:38, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:05, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support


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Category:Historical Hindu empires
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 * The result of the discussion was: combine. as per Marcocapelle. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  11:41, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose manually merging Category:Historical Hindu empires to Category:Hindu dynasties and/or Category:Hindu governments
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT. Even though "dynasty" and "empire" are often used interchangeably, and redirect to each other in countless cases, there are also cases of separate articles like Ottoman Empire versus Ottoman dynasty. Strictly speaking, the word "dynasty" only refers to the reigning house/family, and there is a Category:Dynasties by religion. I can pragmatically agree (at least for now) to the idea that "Hindu dynasty" only means that the reigning house/family of empire X adhered to Hinduism, even though it may not have been the law of the land of X (in which case it belongs in Category:Hindu governments, just like Category:Christian states, Category:Islamic states, etc., for which I recently created Category:Countries by state religion), let alone that the majority or even the entire population of X necessarily adhered to it (populations are rarely homogeneous). Therefore, manually merging Category:Historical Hindu empires to Category:Hindu dynasties when it was only the reigning family of X, or to Category:Hindu governments when Hinduism was actually the official state religion as enshrined in constitutions and laws of X, seems the best option. For comparison: we do have Category:Christian states, but there is no Category:Christian empires, there is no Category:Christian dynasties, there is no Category:Catholic empires, etc. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:15, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * PS: I would apply the same principle of manually merging to Category:Muslim empires to Category:Muslim dynasties and/or Category:Islamic states, but I expect this nom to be complicated, so I'll take it one step at a time. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:20, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Reverse merge Category:Hindu governments to Category:Historical Hindu empires, in order to keep the page history of the latter, but let us discuss the name of it. There is no reason for empires alone, so Category:Hindu states seems the best name. (A more precise and longer possibility is Category:States with Hindu government.) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * (As nom) Support Reverse merge, and Rename to Category:Hindu states. This does seem to be the most straightforward equivalent of Category:Christian states, Category:Islamic states etc. The word Historical isn't really necessary, because when the Kingdom of Nepal was abolished in 2006/2008, the last state in the world with Hinduism as state religion disappeared, so there are no current "Hindu empires" anymore either. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 02:36, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Question (as nom) I now see there are more OVERLAPCATs, including Category:Historical Hindu kingdoms and its children Category:Ancient Hindu kingdoms, Category:Medieval Hindu kingdoms, and the weirdly article-like and probably misplaced Category:Indianized kingdoms. (Although "Indianised kingdoms" is a legitimate concept, Indianisation is much broader than just the Hindu religion, usually also involves Buddhism, but also the Sanskrit language and writing system, the spread of South Asian material culture through trade, etc., so this should probably be re-parented away from "History of Hinduism", as Indianisation is not reducable to 'Hinduisation'). Should I add them to this CfM, or should we nominate them separately, perhaps only after this one closes? Technically there isn't much risk of nomination dependency; Category:Historical Hindu empires, Category:Hindu dynasties and Category:Historical Hindu kingdoms are all siblings, children of parent Category:History of Hinduism, so a combined nom would probably not make a mess out of the category tree. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 02:38, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I removed Category:Indianized kingdoms from the tree, since many of the kingdoms were Buddhist rather than Hindu. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:51, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 16:51, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

then Rename Category:Historical Hindu empires to Category:Hindu states. William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:46, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Reverse merge Category:Hindu governments to Category:Historical Hindu empires,
 * Ok so Marco's proposal. That makes three of us. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 16:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Mound Builders
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Category:Antz video games
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  11:46, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Antz video games to Category:Antz
 * Nominator's rationale: These two are smallcats, together they could make for a viable one. ★Trekker (talk) 17:50, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:50, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:05, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support
 * Support Per nom. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:22, 1 April 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Professional wrestling in X Florida
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Category:The Road to El Dorado
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  11:48, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting the road to el dorado
 * Nominator's rationale: SMALLCAT ★Trekker (talk) 17:29, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:00, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:06, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - adding "Someday Out of the Blue" (a song released for the film) causes the category to have three entries, which makes it borderline. (Oinkers42) (talk) 01:01, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support — half is not borderline.
 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:56, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete for Now with no objection to recreation if it every gets to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 06:30, 2 April 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Disney Renaissance templates
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  11:48, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting disney renaissance templates
 * Nominator's rationale: These franchises are not bound to this era of Walt Disney Animation Studios, they simply happened to have a film that debuted in the era. I question if this is defining since many of these series continue to this day and have dozens of products published outside of the era. ★Trekker (talk) 17:05, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:01, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * shouldn't it be merged to Category:Disney templates? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * All of these are already in Category:Disney franchises navigational boxes so I don't think thats needed.★Trekker (talk) 16:32, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:37, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * No problem.★Trekker (talk) 16:45, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support


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Category:Rulers of Cyrenaica
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  11:54, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting rulers of cyrenaica
 * Propose renaming Category:Rulers of Cyrenaica to Category:Political office-holders in Cyrenaica
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT: has only 1 item (after I emptied it of all non-rulers, namely governors, who are not sovereign and thus not "rulers"), namely Idris of Libya, who was Emir of Cyrenaica for 2 years. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 01:06, 14 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep: Useful as a container category for Category:Kings of Cyrene, and various categories for governors of the region (cf. Category:Rulers of Sicily). Furius (talk) 01:44, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Those are completely different things. The List of kings of Cyrene ends in 30 BCE. Idris of Libya was Emir of Cyrenaica in 1949–1951, 2000 years later. And as I already said, governors are not "rulers" (see Category:Governors and heads of sub-national entities; sub-national is the important word here), because rulers are deemed to be sovereign (Category:Rulers is in Category:Sovereignty). Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 01:52, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Magas, Demetrios, Ptolemy VIII, and Ptolemy Apion all ruled the whole of Cyrenaica. The earlier kings of Cyrene ruled most of it ("Cyrenaica" means the "Cyrenean land" - the distinction is akin to "Athens" and "Attica"). Category:Cyrenaica covers both ancient Cyrenaica and 20th century Cyrenaica. I don't find excluding governors at all helpful for someone trying to work out who was in charge of the territory over time. There should be a category that allows one to trace that; I don't care whether it is called "rulers" or something else. Furius (talk) 09:06, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright, how about Category:Political office-holders in Cyrenaica as a child of Category:Political office-holders by country? This splits into
 * Category:Heads of state by country > Category:Heads of state of former countries > Category:Ancient Greek rulers > Category:Kings of Cyrene
 * Category:Governors and heads of sub-national entities by country > Category:Ancient Roman governors by province > Category:Roman governors of Crete and Cyrenaica
 * Creating Category:Political office-holders in Cyrenaica provides a stepping stone for navigating between monarchs of Cyrenaica and governors of Cyrenaica. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:21, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It's a broader concept than I had in mind, but it's a good idea and I think it works. Furius (talk) 20:51, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright, I changed the nom to Rename. Thanks for the points you made. I changed the nom, is this something you can agree with? You can also leave your vote unchanged. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 01:14, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:48, 16 March 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  16:59, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Subcategories are adequately periodised in Category:History of Cyrenaica. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcocapelle (talk • contribs) 2023-03-14 08:00:55 (UTC)
 * Delete — All human activity involves politics, but the prefix "political" is more specific. Kings are not political office holders. (We've discussed this elsewhere.) Appointed governors and viceroys are office holders, and even heads of state, but not political office holders. A lifetime appointment may be gained politically, but is not a political office holder. For example, a US Supreme Court Justice is not a political office holder.
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 * Delete per original nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:12, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Chicken Run
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  11:55, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting chicken run
 * Nominator's rationale: SMALLCAT ★Trekker (talk) 16:43, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:06, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support
 * Delete for Now with no objection to recreation later if 5+ articles appear. - RevelationDirect (talk) 06:32, 2 April 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Flushed Away
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  11:55, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting flushed away
 * Nominator's rationale: SMALLCAT ★Trekker (talk) 16:43, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:06, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support
 * Delete for Now with no objection to recreation later if 5+ articles appear. - RevelationDirect (talk) 06:32, 2 April 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Blues festivals in Estonia
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge all. There is unambiguous consensus to merge all of these categories into the proposed target. Concerns about proper placement within the music festivals by country categories can be decided later and independently of this CfD. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 01:48, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Blues festivals in Estonia to Category:Blues festivals and Category:Music festivals in Estonia
 * Propose merging Category:Blues festivals in Ireland to Category:Blues festivals and Category:Music festivals in Ireland
 * Propose merging Category:Blues festivals in Poland to Category:Blues festivals and Category:Music festivals in Poland


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 19:23, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 17:39, 14 March 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Merge target? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  18:47, 14 March 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  15:59, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Blues festivals only, because the articles are already in a Folks festivals category of their country. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:44, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge as nominated. They probably should not be under folk festivals, unless they also have folk music, a very different genre. Didn't recognize any folk musicians among the performers, but didn't check them all.
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William Allen Simpson (talk) 08:42, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * whether right or wrong, throughout the entire category tree all Blues festivals are subcategories of Folks festivals categories. Ultimately Category:Blues is a subcategory of Category:American folk music. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:17, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * That's wrong. Blues music is not merely a form of Folk music, it arose from Folk music. Note that Category:Rock music is not subcategorized under Category:Blues, even though both Blues and Folk were the direct antecedents of Rythm and Blues, which begat Rock and Roll. In any case, a Folk festival might have a Blues performer and even a Medieval and Renaissance performer, a Bluegrass festival might have a Folk performer, etc. They are nevertheless very distinctive events. (Speaking as a classically trained professional musician, performer at ethnic, folk, medieval, and renaissance festivals, former sound director of the Ten Pound Fiddle, and long-time volunteer at the New England Folk Festival.)


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Category:History of ancient China
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename and purge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:35, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:History of ancient China to Category:Ancient China by period
 * Nominator's rationale: rename and purge, apart from the four "by period" subcategories there is no difference between Category:Ancient China and Category:History of ancient China. Everything but the four "by period" subcategories may just as well be moved Category:Ancient China. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:29, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:11, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support. 'History' and 'ancient' are pleonastic in this case; a more practical distinction is called for. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:30, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support
 * @Marcocapelle, are you suggesting to rename the category and then move all the members, except the by period subcategories, to Category:Ancient China?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1680523114308:WikipediaFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Log/2023_March_24" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  11:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * yes exactly so. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:30, 3 April 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Decades (TV network) affiliates
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  11:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Decades (TV network) affiliates to Category:Catchy Comedy affiliates
 * Nominator's rationale: Name change 3/27/2023 Mvcg66b3r (talk) 14:28, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:12, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Wait until the rebranding takes effect on March 27, then speedy rename per WP:C2D after main article Decades (TV network) has been renamed. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support WP:C2D, it has been renamed.
 * Speedy per WP:C2D, since the article was renamed. - RevelationDirect (talk) 13:44, 2 April 2023 (UTC)


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Category:World Champions in 5.5 Metre
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Category:Scientific institutes in the Netherlands
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  12:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Scientific institutes in the Netherlands to Category:Research institutes in the Netherlands
 * Nominator's rationale: Smart to distinguish? Already done for Category:Scientific institutes in Slovenia (see the destination of this cat) Estopedist1 (talk) 13:58, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Support - there is no overall scheme Category:Scientific institutes; indeed there are only the 2 mentioned in the nom. If there were they would be subcats of Category:Research institutes (at present Category:Scientific institutes in the Netherlands is a parent of Category:Research institutes in the Netherlands, which is the wrong way round). Oculi (talk) 14:25, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Reverse merge per Oculi. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:28, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom and Oculi. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:20, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge Category:Scientific institutes in the Netherlands to Category:Research institutes in the Netherlands. --Skovl (talk) 19:12, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Super Smash (cricket)
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 * The result of the discussion was: split. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:02, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:Super Smash (cricket) to Category:Super Smash (men's cricket) and Category:Super Smash (women's cricket)
 * Nominator's rationale: The men's and women's events are separate tournaments with wildly different histories. Only since 2018-19 have they been running as parallel tournaments, and so it makes sense to be able to split the men's and women's versions of the event. Otherwise, it muddles up the completely different, gendered predecessor tournaments i.e. there is no relation between the 2010–11 HRV Cup and the 2010–11 Action Cricket Twenty20 other than they were both T20 tournaments, so they shouldn't be categorised together. This is consistent with other separate, related T20 tournaments such as Category:Big Bash League and Category:Women's Big Bash League <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 13:50, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Support Per nom. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:02, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support Per nom. Djln Djln (talk) 19:38, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Stanford 20/20
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:06, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting stanford 20/20
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, the Stanford 20/20 has been defunct for 15 years, so no new articles will be added to this category <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 13:43, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:26, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Short-lived sports tournament with no season articles. The other article, Stanford Super Series, is not even directly related. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:12, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:02, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. StickyWicket (talk) 22:44, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete


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Category:Battles in Flanders
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:06, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting battles in flanders
 * Propose deleting battles in wallonia
 * Nominator's rationale: delete trivial intersection between military history and modern regions by language. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:08, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:25, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete We categorise Category:Battles by "country" (i.e. "battles involving country X"), "period", "type" (naval, aerial etc.), and "war", but not location or geography. (French Wikipedia is one of very few who have a fr:Catégorie:Bataille par lieu, but apart from fr:Catégorie:Bataille sur le sol français, it is relatively empty). Only Flemish and Walloon nationalists would frame battles in terms of Flanders and Wallonia, especially if there is no parent Category:Battles in Belgium. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:37, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete


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Cricket tournament coaches
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:06, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting pakistan super league coaches
 * Propose deleting big bash league coaches
 * Propose deleting bangladesh premier league coaches‎
 * Propose deleting caribbean premier league coaches‎
 * Propose deleting indian cricket league coaches‎
 * Propose deleting sri lanka premier league coaches‎
 * Propose deleting sri lanka premier league coaches‎
 * Propose deleting cricket coaches by competition

Nominator's rationale: Being a coach in any of these Twenty20 franchise leagues is WP:NOTDEFINING for these people. Most of them are former cricketers themselves (lots of them international players), and the fact they have coached in these league is not an integral part of their career- for most of them, these coaching roles are mentioned only in passing or not at all in their articles. This is the same rationale as for the IPL coaches category, which has a consensus to delete. These tournaments are either equally or less notable than the IPL, so the same rationale applies to these categories. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:27, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:03, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. Clear-cut case of WP:OVERCAT. StickyWicket (talk) 22:45, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete


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Category:Bangladesh Premier League players
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:07, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Bangladesh Premier League players to Category:Bangladesh Premier League footballers
 * Nominator's rationale: This category is about the football tournament Bangladesh Premier League (football), not to be confused with the cricket tournament Bangladesh Premier League, which also has players. Therefore, needs to be clear that these are footballers, as "players" is ambiguous between the 2 tournaments of the same name. Note: the cricketers are located in subcategories of Category:Bangladesh Premier League cricketers, and so this would be a consistent naming for the footballers. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 12:03, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:35, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
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 * Support per nom. GiantSnowman 10:19, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support


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Category:Dhaka Platoon seasons
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:08, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting dhaka platoon seasons
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, and not enough articles will be created to make this a useful category. 2 possible articles for the category do exist (Dhaka Dynamites in 2016, Dhaka Dynamites in 2019), but all 3 can be better categorised in Category:Bangladesh Premier League seasons or its subcategories <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 11:49, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:35, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support


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Category:Montreal Impact U23 players
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:08, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Montreal Impact U23 players to Category:CF Montréal U23 players
 * Nominator's rationale: rename per article CF Montréal U23. The nomination was opposed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:57, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Category:Montreal Impact U23 players to Category:CF Montréal U23 players – C2D: Parent article is CF Montréal U23. RedPatch (talk) 13:31, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The article was only recently renamed and without discussion. Oppose speedy until a reliable source is provided about the recent name change. Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 04:39, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * There's not going to be a reliable source, both because it's not a recent name change, and because the U23 club didn't independently change its name. Montreal Impact U23's parent club was Montreal Impact, which was rebranded two years ago as CF Montréal. The recent rename was just bringing the U23 club page into line with the proper branding. fuzzy510 (talk) 09:32, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I propose to override the objection under WP:IAR as this nomination would plainly succeed if it went to a full CFD. If there had been no separate article for the U23 team, then this rename would have gone ahead under C2D based on the main team article. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:53, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * do you agree that this is an exceptional case so that WP:IAR may be applied? Marcocapelle (talk) 09:36, 19 March 2023 (UTC)


 * pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:04, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * pinging as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:05, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Support per CF Montréal U23. The whole club looks to have changed name, and so article name change was correct, and ergo we should change the category to match the correct updated article title. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 14:35, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per CF Montréal U23. Should have been speedied, but I understand that there were some nuances that made that difficult. -fuzzy510 (talk) 01:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
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 * Support per nom. GiantSnowman 10:19, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Austin Peay Lady Govs soccer players
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:09, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Austin Peay Lady Govs soccer players to Category:Austin Peay Governors women's soccer players
 * Nominator's rationale: University no longer uses "Lady Govs" nickname for women's sports fuzzy510 (talk) 09:24, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:36, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
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 * Support per nom. GiantSnowman 10:18, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support


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Category:Austin Peay Lady Govs soccer
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:09, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Austin Peay Lady Govs soccer to Category:Austin Peay Governors women's soccer
 * Nominator's rationale: University no longer uses "Lady Govs" nickname for women's sports fuzzy510 (talk) 09:24, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:36, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
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 * Support per nom. GiantSnowman 10:18, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support


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Category:Works about honeymoon
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:09, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting works about honeymoon
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. It does not have to be merged because the subcategory is already part of Category:Films about vacationing and Category:Films about marriage. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:59, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:43, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. For the subcategory, see Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_March_21. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:09, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Skovl (talk) 19:13, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 01:49, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete


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Category:Armyansk Municipality
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 * The result of the discussion was: reverse merge & rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:10, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Armyansk Municipality to Category:Armiansk Municipality
 * Nominator's rationale: both categories cover the same topic and are just different transcriptions and so we should definitively just have one such category Robby (talk) 08:32, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:39, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Reverse merge, in order to keep the page history, then rename Category:Armyansk Municipality to Category:Armiansk Municipality, per article Armiansk Municipality. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per Marcocapelle to keep history.


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Category:Morgan State Bears
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:11, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Morgan State Bears to Category:Morgan State Bears and Lady Bears
 * Nominator's rationale: Match main article - Morgan State's women's teams are known as the "Lady Bears" fuzzy510 (talk) 07:57, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Also rename the following as well for consistency.
 * Propose renaming Category:Morgan State Bears basketball to Category:Morgan State Bears and Lady Bears basketball.
 * Propose renaming Category:Morgan State Bears men's basketball to Category:Morgan State Bears basketball. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:56, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:41, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per Aidan721 to keep history.


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Category:People educated at Mater Maria Catholic College
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:12, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting people educated at mater maria catholic college
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Only has one entry. No evidence of other articles that would fall into this category. LibStar (talk) 02:28, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 12:36, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Sioux City Breeze players
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:13, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting sioux city breeze players
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. 1 person. Unlikely to grow. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:16, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 12:36, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. Can recreate if ever able to be populated, that does not seem likely. GiantSnowman 10:18, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:NAIA World Series venues
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:13, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting naia world series venues
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:OCVENUE. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:09, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 12:36, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Golf in Tijuana
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:13, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Golf in Tijuana to Category:Sports in Tijuana
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. 2 articles. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:44, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 12:37, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:FP6 grid computing projects
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:14, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fp6 grid computing projects
 * Nominator's rationale: Pointless category containing only a redirect. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:30, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:44, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:53, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete


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