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Category:Sports competitions in Ängelholm

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:07, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Sports competitions in Ängelholm to Category:Sport in Ängelholm and Category:Sports competitions in Skåne County
 * Propose deleting Category:Events in Ängelholm
 * Propose deleting Category:Culture in Ängelholm
 * Propose merging Category:Sports competitions in Trelleborg to Category:Sport in Trelleborg and Category:Sports competitions in Skåne County
 * Propose deleting Category:Events in Trelleborg
 * Propose deleting Category:Culture in Trelleborg
 * Nominator's rationale: Procedural nomination. Tagged by user:Aidan721 at the same time as Categories for discussion/Log/2023 February 20 but not listed there. Each set contains only 3 pages. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:54, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:07, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per precedent, per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:30, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support


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Category:Lithuanian Hindus

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:11, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Lithuanian Hindus to Category:European Hindus and Category:Hinduism in Lithuania and Category:Lithuanian people
 * Propose merging Category:Danish Hindus to Category:European Hindus and Category:Hinduism in Denmark Category:Religion in Denmark and Category:Danish people
 * Propose merging Category:Croatian Hindus to Category:European Hindus and Category:Hinduism in Croatia and Category:Croatian people


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Hinduism in Lithuania Lithuanian people Estopedist1 (talk) 21:44, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:06, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge but only to Category:European Hindus. The "Hinduism in country" categories are topic categories, not meant to contain biographies, and besides these three should be nominated for upmerging too. Category:Lithuanian people and siblings are no good merge targets because the articles are already much further down in the trees of those. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:00, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per Marcocapelle.
 * Merge - but why not also siblings for Spain Portugal, Gibraltar and Italy, which are equally ill-populated. Hindus are overwhelmingly of Indian extraction and have migrated principally to UK, so that the low population on continental Europe is to be expected.  Not sure whether to merge to Category:European Hindus or the nom's full upmerge.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:47, 18 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Champaign–Urbana, Illinois
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Category:Lithuanian Anglicans

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:13, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Lithuanian Anglicans to Category:Anglicans and Category:Anglicanism in Lithuania and Category:Lithuanian Protestants
 * Propose merging Category:Dutch Anglicans to Category:Anglicans and Category:Anglicanism in the Netherlands and Category:Dutch Protestants


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 21:25, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:35, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge but not to "Anglicanism in country" categories. These are topic categories, not meant to contain biographies - and besides these two should be nominated for upmerging too. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:05, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per Marcocapelle.
 * Merge per Marcocapelle. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:49, 18 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Lost historical records

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:14, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Lost historical records to Category:Lost documents
 * Nominator's rationale: There isn't really a clear difference between these two categories, as all documents are records and are technically historical by way of history being a way in which knowledge is recorded by writing. Furthermore, everything in the "lost documents" section appear to be texts of some degree of historical significance/interest to begin with, which further obscures the need for "historical records" being a separate category. Totalibe (talk) 00:01, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 08:10, 21 February 2023 (UTC) William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:19, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge — we don't seem to have a separate tree for Category:Historical records, so documents will do. Most of the category seem to be about fires in locations.
 * Rename to Category:Fires in archives and re-parent, but move 1890 United States census to Category:Lost documents. As WAS said, these articles are about fires. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:05, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd have to agree, since ALL of these articles, apart from the 1890 United States census page, are about fires. And there are, undoubtedly, other examples of fires in archives as well. Historyday01 (talk) 13:49, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I have to disagree, as the articles are already in various Category:Fires by type, and other more specific fires categories (country, place, year). This is only about the loss of documents.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  18:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  20:29, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge GenuineArt (talk) 19:08, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:34, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


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Tribes

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (merge "Walla Walla"). (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Piscataway tribe to Category:Piscataway
 * Propose renaming Category:Nanticoke tribe to Category:Nanticoke
 * Propose renaming Category:Mohawk tribe to Category:Mohawk
 * Propose renaming Category:Battles involving the Mohawk tribe to Category:Battles involving the Mohawk
 * Propose renaming Category:Seneca tribe to Category:Seneca
 * Propose renaming Category:Modoc tribe to Category:Modoc
 * Propose renaming Category:Cheyenne tribe to Category:Cheyenne
 * Propose renaming Category:Comanche tribe to Category:Comanche
 * Propose renaming Category:Wiyot tribe to Category:Wiyot
 * Propose renaming Category:Timpanogos tribe to Category:Timpanogos
 * Propose renaming Category:Washoe tribe to Category:Washoe
 * Propose renaming Category:Yaqui tribe to Category:Yaqui
 * Propose renaming Category:Duwamish tribe to Category:Duwamish
 * Propose renaming Category:Mono tribe to Category:Mono
 * Propose renaming Category:Pomo tribe to Category:Pomo
 * Propose renaming Category:Walla Walla (tribe) to Category:Walla Walla
 * Propose renaming Category:Nez Perce tribe to Category:Nez Perce
 * Propose renaming Category:Coos tribe to Category:Coos


 * Nominator's rationale: These are broad categories including culture, history, people, descent, etc. Renaming the categories also avoids confusion in cases where there are multiple recognized tribes. Pinging editors: @User:Yuchitown, @User:Indigenous girl, @User:CorbieVreccan, @User:Vizjim, @User:Uyvsdi, and @User:TulsaPoliticsFan. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 15:07, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:18, 11 March 2023 (UTC) William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:06, 11 March 2023 (UTC) William Allen Simpson (talk) 16:21, 11 March 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  19:04, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Support, per nominator. I prefer avoiding 'tribe' wherever it is not part of an official name. - Donald Albury 17:29, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Support: per nominator's rational.TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 01:20, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Support, removing "tribe" is simpler and less confusing since these are broad categories, as nominated has explained. Yuchitown (talk) 03:31, 21 February 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown
 * Support, as if this was implemented, it could help avoid confusion and even allow for possible subcategories as needed.Historyday01 (talk) 13:50, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Support removal of "tribe" from any and all categories where it is not part of the official name. As a note, where it is official it should be capitalized anyway. -- A Rose Wolf  16:18, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose some. Seneca and Mono are obviously ambiguous. Mono people would probably be OK for the category name, despite there also being a stub Mono people (Congo). Walla Walla is ambiguous with Walla Walla, New South Wales. Maybe we should upmerge that one as an unnecessary layer. It's confusing too that its main article is Walla Walla people, but Category:Walla Walla people is for biographies. Seneca people also has the latter problem but  Category:Seneca tribe should be kept as it has plenty of content. We could follow the naming pattern of Category:Squamish people for the tribe and Category:Squamish people (individuals) for biographies per consensus at Categories for discussion/Log/2015 September 13.– Fayenatic  L ondon 08:58, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nominator. Let's please get tribe gone unless it is part of the official name. Indigenous girl (talk) 18:23, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge Category:Walla Walla (tribe) to Category:Native American tribes in Washington (state), Category:Native American tribes in Oregon and Category:Indigenous peoples of the Northwest Plateau, redundant category layer with only one subcategory, per Fayenatic london. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:38, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Support — unlike some, I've no concern about overlaps with town names. The town names already have qualifiers. Yes, editors will make mistakes.
 * Rename Category:Mono tribe to Category:Mono (United States) to avoid any future conflict for sub-Category:Mono people (United States) with Mono people (Congo)
 * Upmerge Category:Walla Walla (tribe) to Category:Native American tribes in Washington (state), Category:Native American tribes in Oregon and Category:Indigenous peoples of the Northwest Plateau per Marcocapelle and Fayenatic london.
 * William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:23, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I can't see anything with which to populate the Walla Walla parent category, so I'd still upmerge that one. For Mono, Category:Mono people (United States) would be unambiguous and consistent with naming policy; there do not seem to be any biographies competing for the "people" category name. If Category:Seneca people (currently used for biographies) is renamed to Category:Seneca people (individuals), then Category:Seneca tribe can move to Category:Seneca people. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:08, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, modified above. Category:Mono (United States) If no content for Category:Walla Walla (tribe), then upmerge. Leave Category:Walla Walla people biographies. Also, leave Category:Seneca people biographies. What's wrong with Category:Seneca for the tribe?
 * Because Seneca is highly ambiguous, and I would expect the primary meaning to be Category:Seneca the Younger (known mononymously as Seneca). – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:27, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * this must be an example of WP:ENGVAR education. The WP:PRIMARYTOPIC should be the tribe, with so many places named after them. The perfidious Seneca are the first natives that American schoolchildren are taught to hate (followed by Comanches and Apaches) from an early age. They sided with the British, and blocked the Erie Canal, so they had to be "removed." Meanwhile, I don't recall learning about Seneca the Younger (or his father) at all. At university, we spent considerable time on Cicero because of his influence on Jeffersonian democracy.
 * Could be. As a boy, I had a colouring book about Native Americans; I remember Apache, Cheyenne and Comanche, but don't remember knowing there was a Seneca people. There has not been a PRIMARYTOPIC at the disambiguation page Seneca except from 2013 until 2014  when it was Seneca the Younger. – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:40, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Those are all western tribes, later conflicts, Cowboys and Indians. We were taught the Seneca viciously attacked the Huron and ethnically cleansed them. I'm from Michigan near the Huron River west of Lake Huron, so maybe that's regional instruction. In part that's the justification for "removing" the Seneca. When children are taught about the French and Indian Wars and the American Revolutionary War, we learn that the Seneca were allies of George Washington during the former, then betrayed him in the latter. There are books and films, 19th century romanticised white savior drama. Anyway, I'd oppose Seneca the Younger as primary topic. According to the current article, The tribe's name has no logical connection with the ancient Roman statesmen.... There is a moon crater and asteroid named after him (and other philosophers), but most place names are about the Seneca people.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  20:29, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge Walla Walla/Rename the Rest This is clearer than the current "tribe" format. - RevelationDirect (talk) 21:53, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Support per nomination. For ones that might be ambiguous (Seneca, Mohawk?, Walla Walla) I suggest Category:Seneca people but I'm cool with the consensus decision on how exactly to relabel/rephrase. jengod (talk) 02:58, 9 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Ministers' Baptist Higher Secondary School alumni

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:18, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting ministers' baptist higher secondary school alumni
 * Propose deleting ministers' hill baptist higher secondary school alumni
 * Propose deleting ministers' hill baptist higher secondary school
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT for just three alumni of a high school. As always, every high school that exists does not automatically get one of these as a matter of course -- they're fine if there are a lot of notable alumni of that high school, but not just if there are only two or three, and checking the school's "what links here" didn't turn up anybody else that could be added. Then, for no apparent reason, it's also filed as a subcategory of, despite the school's article not containing any indication of what would make Minister's Hill and Minister's Not-Hill two separate things for the purposes of needing two separate categories, and of , which exists only to sit between the underpopulated alumni category and the category for the town the high school is in -- which means that neither of those categories are necessary either. Bearcat (talk) 17:46, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:57, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete


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Category:District in Northern province of Rwanda

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:19, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting district in northern province of rwanda
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT for just two districts. Wikipedia does not currently have any scheme of subdividing by individual province, and even if that were desirable this would not be the category's correct name anyway. Bearcat (talk) 17:30, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:58, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:55, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete
 * Delete as superfluous. Pichpich (talk) 22:53, 16 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Latton, Essex

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:20, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting latton, essex
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT for a former small community which is now just an area within a larger (but still relatively) small town rather than its own thing. There are just two articles here, but there would have to be a lot more than just two articles to file here before a dedicated category was justified. Bearcat (talk) 17:21, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * likewise with the parish, it has an 800 year history, that I am slowly cataloging.
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Latton,_Essex
 * https://archive.org/details/arkwrightsharlow0000lake/mode/2up
 * https://archive.org/details/bookofharlowillu0000jone/mode/2up
 * https://archive.org/details/victoriahistoryo0008unse_t7h7/page/206/mode/2up
 * https://archive.org/details/victoriahistoryo0008unse_t7h7/page/208/mode/2up
 * https://archive.org/details/victoriahistoryo0008unse_t7h7/page/210/mode/2up
 * https://archive.org/details/victoriahistoryo0008unse_t7h7/page/212/mode/2up
 * https://archive.org/details/victoriahistoryo0008unse_t7h7/page/214/mode/2up DRS311 (talk) 17:31, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You don't get to create a small underpopulated category first and then claim you're going to create content to populate it later. That's not how this works: you create the content first, and then you can come back and create a category to hold the content after the content already exists. Bearcat (talk) 17:38, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Again, didn't no that, nor does it clearly mention that it is against the rules. I didn't think it would let me do something that is wrong. it allowed me, so I went with it. DRS311 (talk) 18:12, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:00, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT without objection to recreate the category when there are a handful more articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:05, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete until there are 10 articles.
 * Merge to Harlow. I see no reason in principle why there should not be an article on Latton, Harlow (which currently redirects to Harlow), just as there is for Old Harlow and Great Parndon, other parishes incorporated into the New Town, but there is not.  Even if there was, it does not mean that there should be a category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:58, 18 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Church of St Mary the Virgin, Harlow

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William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:04, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:20, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting church of st mary the virgin, harlow
 * Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category for a smalltown church without the volume of spinoff content needed to justify an eponymous category. All that's here is the head article, one biography of one person who was once rector of it (but that's not what he's primarily notable for, and thus including him is the religious equivalent of a WP:PERFCAT), and one photograph, which is not sufficient to render a smalltown church as being in need of its own dedicated category. Bearcat (talk) 16:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * it was to help catalog all the photos I have of the
 * https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListFiles/DRS311&ilshowall=1
 * one photograph ??? I have unload 100s DRS311 (talk) 17:26, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I still have a lot more to load. DRS311 (talk) 17:26, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Roger Altham, is attached to the church, and i have a lot more people to add to the cat.
 * The Altham, The Arkwright, The Burgoyne and the Lushington etc etc. DRS311 (talk) 17:27, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * We do not mix articles with photographs in articlespace categories. There may be an "images of X" category for only the photographs with no articles, or an "X" category for only articles with no photographs, but there cannot be a mix of both articles and photographs in the same category. And it doesn't matter how many photos you've uploaded, either — it matters how many photos you've actually filed in the category, and there's only one photograph filed in the category. And also, furthermore, we do not upload duplicate copies to Wikipedia of photos that you've already uploaded as CC to Commons — we just directly use the Commons copy itself. Bearcat (talk) 17:34, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I didn't know that sorry, it does not say not to mix articles and photographs. my apologies. they should make that clearer, thank you. DRS311 (talk) 18:07, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Also didn't no about the duplicates, thought they were separate website. DRS311 (talk) 18:08, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * "Commons" is the name. It is a common centrally located place for all the languages.

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:04, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:22, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete failed learners permit.
 * Delete -- Smallcat. Do not think there is anything to merge.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:03, 18 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Sunyani Technical University alumni
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Category:Cutchogue (town), New York

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:21, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Cutchogue (town), New York to Category:Southold, New York
 * Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category for a small community (pop. 3K) without sufficient content to justify an eponymous category. As always, every place that exists does not automatically get one of these as a matter of course -- it's warranted if there are a lot of things to file in it, but not if there are only one or two. And for added bonus, Cutchogue, New York isn't even its own standalone town anyway -- it's merely a community within the town of Southold, which already has its own, much better populated that these two articles can be filed in without needing a special layer of Cutchogue categorization. Bearcat (talk) 17:06, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:32, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:19, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge
 * Merge per nom. Pichpich (talk) 22:57, 16 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Residents of Lagos

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:22, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting residents of lagos
 * Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia does not do "residents of X" as a separate category tree from "people from X". The people-from tree is not applied solely on the basis of birthplace alone, such that a person who lived in Lagos somehow couldn't be categorized as "people from Lagos" if he or she wasn't actually born there -- they're applied solely on the basis of "lived in Lagos for long enough to have that be relevant to mention in their article at all, regardless of whether they were born there or not", meaning that there's no category-worthy distinction between "people from" and "residents of" at all. Bearcat (talk) 16:59, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:19, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:OVERLAPCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:21, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Manual merge, as there are 65 articles not currently categorised within People from Lagos: https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=24084080 – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:11, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:OVERLAPCAT and WP:COP-PLACE. Assume any not in "People from" do not qualify there. We don't categorize by place of birth. (Only checked the first two of Fayenatic's list, but neither was in Lagos after the age of 10.)


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Category:Shahidul Zahir
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:22, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting shahidul zahir
 * Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category for a writer, without the volume of spinoff content needed to justify an eponymous category. As always, every writer who has a Wikipedia article does not automatically get one of these as a matter of course -- it's done for writers who have a lot of related content to categorize outside of the established "Works by..." scheme that already exists (e.g. ), but is not automatically created just to hold "Works by + head article". The category formerly included images of his book covers (which as non-free content can't be galleried in categories that mix them with articles) and a dedicated "Shahidul Zahir template" category that existed solely to contain the Shahidul Zahir navbox (but navboxes don't get their own dedicated "[person the navbox is for] template" categories either, except maybe in the rare case that there are several related but distinct navboxes for different aspects of the person's notability that need to be grouped together). So those have been removed as inappropriate entries, but that means all that's left is "Works by + head article", which isn't enough. Bearcat (talk) 16:22, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:21, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:24, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Place Clichy (talk) 08:59, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete
 * Delete, standard practice at CfD. Pichpich (talk) 22:58, 16 March 2023 (UTC)


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Hypercategorized Paraguayan television series
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Category:Categories by islands
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:23, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Categories by islands to Category:Categories by island
 * Propose renaming Category:History by islands to Category:History by island
 * Propose renaming Category:Geography of islands to Category:Geography of island Category:Geography by island
 * Propose renaming Category:Culture by islands to Category:Culture by island
 * Nominator's rationale: Should be singular, right? Skovl (talk) 14:07, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Not Category:Geography of island but maybe Category:Geography by island. Cf. Category:Geography by continent, Category:Geography by country, Category:Geography by region. On the other hand, there is Category:Geography of planets. Goustien (talk) 16:03, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I meant Category:Geography by island of course. --Skovl (talk) 16:51, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:31, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support as an improvement, even though it includes a few by island group as opposed to single islands. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:15, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support


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Category:Music videos directed by La La Land
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:23, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Music videos directed by La La Land to Category:Music videos directed by La La Land (director)
 * Nominator's rationale: Not La La Land. Gonnym (talk) 11:21, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 17:25, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete — WP:SMALLCAT. No WP:V for WP:N. There is no article for La La Land (director). Moreover, we don't categorize every film director, nor directors of advertising commercials. We don't need categories for mere directors of music videos (originally commercials). There are thousands of music videos compared to feature films, so it is WP:NONDEFINING. People who are notable for other things directing music videos is also WP:NONDEFINING.
 * Delete per William Allen Simpson. Having a music video isn't a defining aspect of these songs, so it really doesn't matter who directed them. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 04:56, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. One is unreferenced, the other three are cited only to visible credits on YouTube videos. – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:08, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, I agree with William Allen Simpson. Pichpich (talk) 23:01, 16 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Sportspeople of Asian descent
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:24, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting sportspeople of asian descent
 * Propose deleting sportspeople of east asian descent
 * Propose deleting australian sportspeople of east asian descent‎ (1 C)
 * Propose deleting brazilian sportspeople of east asian descent‎ (1 C)
 * Propose deleting british sportspeople of east asian descent‎ (1 C)
 * Propose deleting mexican sportspeople of east asian descent‎ (1 C)
 * Propose deleting new zealand sportspeople of east asian descent‎ (1 C)
 * Propose deleting sportspeople of south asian descent
 * Propose deleting australian sportspeople of south asian descent‎ (2 C)
 * Propose deleting canadian sportspeople of south asian descent‎ (1 C)
 * Propose deleting sportspeople of southeast asian descent
 * Propose deleting australian sportspeople of asian descent‎ (2 C, 10 P)
 * Propose deleting brazilian sportspeople of asian descent‎ (1 C)
 * Propose deleting british sportspeople of asian descent‎ (3 C)
 * Propose deleting canadian sportspeople of asian descent‎ (11 C, 4 P)
 * Propose deleting french sportspeople of asian descent‎ (6 P)
 * Propose deleting german sportspeople of asian descent‎ (2 C)
 * Propose deleting mexican sportspeople of asian descent‎ (1 C)
 * Propose deleting new zealand sportspeople of asian descent‎ (1 C)
 * Propose deleting spanish sportspeople of asian descent‎ (8 P)
 * Propose deleting category


 * Nominator's rationale: recent proliferation of tiny categories with unusual and irrelevant hierarchical organization. Category naming does not provide for by region encapsulating by country.


 * Summary: Trivial intersection between occupation and ancestors' nationality. These are not harmless as these "regional" subcategories are also a proxy for race, and are understood that way. Continuing removals after categories were emptied by previous discussions.

William Allen Simpson (talk) 12:08, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Followup to:
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 28 result delete.
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 15 result delete.
 * William Allen Simpson (talk) 11:26, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * prior comments included in summary.


 * Delete per the precedent of previous discussions. Regional/continental intersections at that level are a bad idea, and likely to be used only as a privacy for race. Place Clichy (talk) 14:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, trivial intersection between occupation and ancestors' nationality. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:36, 9 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Sportspeople of North American descent
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:24, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting sportspeople of north american descent
 * Propose deleting sportspeople by north american country of descent
 * Nominator's rationale: recent proliferation of tiny categories with unusual and irrelevant hierarchical organization. Category naming does not provide for by region encapsulating by country. This parent shim has only 2 children, soon to be 1 child.


 * Summary: There's no rhyme nor reason for this convoluted tree, entangled with others, very few articles. Continuing removals after categories were emptied by previous discussions.


 * Followup to:
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 21 result delete.
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 February 27 result delete.
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 February 27 result delete.
 * Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 1
 * William Allen Simpson (talk) 04:51, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete, trivial intersection between occupation and ancestors' nationality. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per the precedent of previous discussions. Regional/continental intersections at that level are a bad idea, and likely to be used only as a privacy for race. Place Clichy (talk) 14:52, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Albums produced by Anderson Paak
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:25, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Albums produced by Anderson Paak to Category:Albums produced by Anderson .Paak
 * Nominator's rationale: A category for this record producer already exists, under his correctly stylized stage name. GiovanniSidwell (talk) 00:15, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:28, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. The main article is Anderson .Paak. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:37, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge


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Category:Albums produced by Anderson Paak
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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:44, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Nominator's rationale: Name of category doesn't match name on main article. That is, the category was created without the "." present in his stage name. GiovanniSidwell (talk) 00:11, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Nvm, looks like the target category does exist and this new one was created erroneously, will nominate for merge instead. GiovanniSidwell (talk) 00:14, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


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