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Category:Recipients of the Korean War Service Medal

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. In addition, the parent category Category:Korean War Service Medal will be eligible for C2F when this deletion is completed. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 06:54, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting recipients of the korean war service medal
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD
 * Korean War Service Medal is a South Korean award for soldiers from the United Nations coalition who fought in the Korean War. It is a participatory award and already there is Category:Military personnel of the Korean War, which has the articles of military personnel who fought in the Korean War. Toadboy123 (talk) 23:13, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:46, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Service medals issued to everyone aren't defining, and tend to also overlap with the military categories. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:56, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete -- A medal that a person gets for serving is not defining. Perhaps merge to Category:Military personnel of the Korean War, in case any one is in this category but not that.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:20, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Next step should be upmerging parent Category:Korean War Service Medal per SMALLCAT. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:50, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


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Category:New islands

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 22:19, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting new islands
 * Nominator's rationale: Arbitrary/subjective inclusion criterion. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:57, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. The list suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:52, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:51, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Football managers from Leeds
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete the British ones, and upmerge the American ones to appropriate parents. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 04:47, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting football managers from leeds
 * Propose deleting football managers from yorkshire
 * Propose deleting soccer coaches from indiana
 * Propose deleting soccer coaches from michigan
 * Propose deleting soccer coaches from vermont
 * Propose deleting american soccer coaches by state
 * Nominator's rationale: There is not a well-established category tree for football managers by city or country subdivision. As most coaches are former players, this creates a large amount of overlap with player categories, e.g. Stuart McCall is in and . Therefore, there does not seem to be a strong need for these manager categories. The few managers that did not have a playing career should be upmerged to "Sportspeople from ". S.A. Julio (talk) 22:28, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. S.A. Julio (talk) 22:29, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep American categories There very much is an established scheme at Category:American sports coaches by state. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:33, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * As mentioned, there is such a large overlap for football managers with players that it makes such a categorization excessive. The purpose of these categories is to diffuse "Sportspeople from " categories, which is largely already accomplished by the "Footballers/Soccer players from " categories. S.A. Julio (talk) 00:38, 18 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete the first 2. Upmerge  the American ones to etc. Carl Christensen (soccer) seems to be 'from' many places. Oculi (talk) 01:19, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete the first 2 and upmerge  the American ones per Oculi. The whole set in Category:American sports coaches by state may be revisited in a separate nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:55, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete the first 2 and upmerge  the American ones per Oculi. GiantSnowman 06:06, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete the first 2 and upmerge  the American ones per Oculi. That aids navigation by preventing WP:SMALLCAT and still leaving them in the tree. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:34, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete the first 2 and upmerge  the American ones per Oculi. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 08:01, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Yorkshire -- The parent English Football managers is so enormous that it is a hindrance to navigation and needs splitting. No objection to merging Leeds.  No view on the American cases.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:24, 23 May 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Communist Workers' Party – For Peace and Socialism
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 22:19, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting communist workers' party – for peace and socialism
 * Nominator's rationale: An unregistered minor party doesn't need or deserve a separate category. Jah77 (talk) 16:54, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only two articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:27, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete for Now with no objection to recreating if the contents grow. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:56, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete for now per RD. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:52, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Amiri Press publications
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Bulaq Press publications. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 22:20, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Amiri Press publications to Category:Bulaq Press publications
 * Nominator's rationale: To match the article title. إيان (talk) 16:51, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:29, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


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Category:The Stud Stable members
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Stud Stable members. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 22:20, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:The Stud Stable members to Category:Stud Stable members
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:THE; also consistency with main article. McPhail (talk) 14:05, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 15:04, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Support per Stud Stable. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:17, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


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Category:A Song of Ice and Fire family trees
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 22:20, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting a song of ice and fire family trees
 * Nominator's rationale: Serves no purpose. Its child category is already in the categories Category:Fictional family tree templates and Category:A Song of Ice and Fire templates. ★Trekker (talk) 14:02, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: redundant layer. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 15:03, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:18, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:52, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Sportverein Jugendland footballers
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 22:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting sportverein jugendland footballers
 * Nominator's rationale: No evidence that the club is notable, fourth-tier amateur side in Chile. The matching article was PROD-ed for lack of notability in 2013. Geregen2 (talk) 13:50, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT, only one article in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:19, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Unsure if it's defining, but definitely small. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:57, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 20:35, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 20:37, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Quesos Kümey footballers
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 22:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting quesos kümey footballers
 * Nominator's rationale: No evidence that the club is notable, lower-tier amateur side in Chile, there is no matching article. Geregen2 (talk) 13:47, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Not treated as defining in the articles, generally listed in the infoboxes. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:58, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 20:35, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 20:37, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Juventud Puente Alto players
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 22:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting juventud puente alto players
 * Nominator's rationale: No evidence that the club is notable, fourth-tier amateur side in Chile. The club article was PROD-ed for lack of notability in 2013. Geregen2 (talk) 13:44, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT, only one article in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:20, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 20:35, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 20:37, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Enfoque footballers
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 22:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting enfoque footballers
 * Nominator's rationale: No evidence that the club is notable. Played in the fourth-tier level in Chile. The club article PROD-ed in 2013 and has not been re-created since. Geregen2 (talk) 13:40, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT, only one article in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:21, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 20:37, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Dynasty genealogy
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 28%23Category:Dynasty genealogy

Category:NCAA gymnasts who have scored a perfect 10
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 22:22, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting ncaa gymnasts who have scored a perfect 10
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete per ARBITRARYCAT / WP:PERFCAT. User:Namiba 12:19, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination (though I'm not sure I would call a perfect score arbitrary). QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 14:54, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete definitely categorizing by a one-time (or couple time) performance. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:59, 20 May 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Antony and the Johnsons albums
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. See also main article Anohni and the Johnsons. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 22:23, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Antony and the Johnsons albums to Category:Anohni and the Johnsons albums
 * Propose renaming Category:Antony and the Johnsons members to Category:Anohni and the Johnsons members
 * Propose renaming Category:Antony and the Johnsons songs to Category:Anohni and the Johnsons songs
 * Nominator's rationale: Per renaming of main article. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 07:13, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


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Ancient Greek statesmen
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to "[Century] Greek politicians", and then merge where appropriate. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 04:41, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:8th-century BC Ancient Greek statesmen to Category:8th-century BC Greek statesmen
 * Propose renaming Category:7th-century BC Ancient Greek statesmen to Category:7th-century BC Greek statesmen
 * Propose renaming Category:6th-century BC Ancient Greek statesmen to Category:6th-century BC Greek statesmen
 * Propose renaming Category:5th-century BC Ancient Greek statesmen to Category:5th-century BC Greek statesmen
 * Propose renaming Category:4th-century BC Ancient Greek statesmen to Category:4th-century BC Greek statesmen
 * Propose renaming Category:3rd-century BC Ancient Greek statesmen to Category:3rd-century BC Greek statesmen
 * Propose renaming Category:2nd-century BC Ancient Greek statesmen to Category:2nd-century BC Greek statesmen
 * Propose renaming Category:1st-century BC Ancient Greek statesmen to Category:1st-century BC Greek statesmen
 * In addition/alternative:
 * Propose merging Category:8th-century BC Ancient Greek statesmen to Category:8th-century BC Greek people and Category:Ancient Greek statesmen
 * Propose merging Category:7th-century BC Ancient Greek statesmen to Category:7th-century BC Greek people
 * Propose merging Category:1st-century BC Ancient Greek statesmen to Category:1st-century BC Greek people and Category:Ancient Greek statesmen ''withdraw this one
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, "Ancient" is redundant for these specific centuries. The parent categories are also just Category:5th-century BC Greek people. If kept, then Ancient should at least be decapitalized to ancient. Additionally, the 8th-century, 7th-century and 1st-century categories may be upmerged per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:00, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This seems like a clash between the "Greek people" tree and the "Ancient Greeks by occupation" tree. The 1st century BC category certainly has room to grow (I've added three missing articles now, but there are more). There are other lawgivers that could go in the 8th-7th C, but the dating's often uncertain. I'd not oppose their upmerging. Furius (talk) 08:28, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * In "Ancient Greeks by occupation" the word Ancient is not redundant, there it is properly used. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:39, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Right. Support Rename; Support merging 8th cent. & 7th cent. categories; Oppose merging 1st cent. (I've added other Gk statesmen already on wiki; there are many more who don't yet have articles). Furius (talk) 19:41, 18 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Rename all per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:34, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I have just submitted a closely related CfR: Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 21, and was in the process of nominating all these categories when I just found this CfR. I also want to rename them, but for a different reason. Namely: to replace "statesmen" with "politicians" (per WP:C2C and Category:Statesmen having been deleted in 2009 per non-neutral term--classify as Category:Politicians or Category:Diplomats). I am in favour of this CfR as well, and I think our CfRs are compatible, so maybe we should fuse them? We upmerge the SMALLCATs, drop Ancient, and change statesmen into politicians, thereby solving 3 issues in 1 go! Good idea @Marcocapelle? Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 16:20, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * "Politicians" is perfectly fine. The articles in these categories alternate between using "statesmen" and "politicians" but in the category tree "politicians" dominates. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:40, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright, Rename all to [century] Greek politicians then, and upmerge the SMALLCATs as nominated. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:18, 21 May 2023 (UTC)


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