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Category:Agricultural researchers in India
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Category:People's Republic of China journalists

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 * The result of the discussion was: split. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 18:12, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:People's Republic of China journalists to Category:20th-century Chinese journalists and Category:21st-century Chinese journalists
 * Nominator's rationale: split per precedent in this previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:26, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Split per nom. We don't usually use full country names for present-day countries. Place Clichy (talk) 20:58, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment. I was on the fence about PRC for journalism because for the 20th-century its probably worth distinguishing whether they were a journalist in a democracy (RoC) or a communist nation (PRC). Mason (talk) 22:01, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Meanwhile it is the only occupation category directly in Category:People's Republic of China, that seems not very meaningful. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:01, 11 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Religion in Malabo

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Malabo. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow (talk) 20:09, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Religion in Malabo to Category:Malabo
 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary cat with 1 article and unlikely to grow. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:45, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:57, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Songs with lyrics by Rashmi Singh
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Humanitarians

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:26, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting:
 * Category:Humanitarians
 * Category:Humanitarians by nationality
 * Category:Algerian humanitarians
 * Category:American humanitarians
 * Category:Australian humanitarians
 * Category:Austrian humanitarians
 * Category:Azerbaijani humanitarians
 * Category:Belgian humanitarians


 * Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina humanitarians
 * Category:Brazilian humanitarians
 * Category:British humanitarians
 * Category:Cameroonian humanitarians
 * Category:Canadian humanitarians
 * Category:Chilean humanitarians
 * Category:Chinese humanitarians
 * Category:Republic of the Congo humanitarians
 * Category:Czech humanitarians
 * Category:Danish humanitarians
 * Category:Dutch humanitarians
 * Category:East Timorese humanitarians
 * Category:Ethiopian humanitarians
 * Category:French humanitarians
 * Category:German humanitarians
 * Category:Ghanaian humanitarians
 * Category:Hungarian humanitarians
 * Category:Indian humanitarians
 * Category:Iranian humanitarians
 * Category:Iraqi humanitarians
 * Category:Irish humanitarians
 * Category:Israeli humanitarians
 * Category:Italian humanitarians
 * Category:Japanese humanitarians
 * Category:Kuwaiti humanitarians
 * Category:Lebanese humanitarians
 * Category:Malaysian humanitarians
 * Category:Mexican humanitarians
 * Category:New Zealand humanitarians
 * Category:Nigerian humanitarians
 * Category:Norwegian humanitarians
 * Category:Pakistani humanitarians
 * Category:Polish humanitarians
 * Category:Russian humanitarians
 * Category:Rwandan humanitarians
 * Category:Saudi Arabian humanitarians
 * Category:Serbian humanitarians
 * Category:Slovak humanitarians
 * Category:South African humanitarians
 * Category:South Korean humanitarians
 * Category:Spanish humanitarians
 * Category:Sri Lankan humanitarians
 * Category:Sudanese humanitarians
 * Category:Swedish humanitarians
 * Category:Swiss humanitarians
 * Category:Syrian humanitarians
 * Category:Taiwanese humanitarians
 * Category:Tibetan humanitarians
 * Category:Turkish humanitarians
 * Category:Ukrainian humanitarians
 * Category:Uruguayan humanitarians


 * Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic, looks like original research. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:56, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. It feels like the non-defining version of philanthropists Mason (talk) 23:13, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom toobigtokale (talk) 10:44, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support Too vague a definition. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 16:46, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support Humanitarianism is very broad. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 20:11, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


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Rulers by century
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow (talk) 20:11, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:6th-century rulers to Category:6th-century people by occupation
 * Propose merging Category:7th-century rulers to Category:7th-century people by occupation
 * Propose merging Category:8th-century rulers to Category:8th-century people by occupation
 * Propose merging Category:9th-century rulers to Category:9th-century people by occupation
 * Propose merging Category:10th-century rulers to Category:10th-century people by occupation
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. And per precedent: the same merge has already happened for the 5th century and below. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:54, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 17:13, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:American money launderers
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Category:10th-century countesses consort
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 18:19, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose manually merging Category:10th-century countesses consort to Category:10th-century women
 * Propose manually merging Category:11th-century countesses consort to Category:11th-century women
 * Nominator's rationale: manually merge, with very few exceptions these women are already in the tree of Women regents or Countesses regnant as well, and they are much more notable because of the latter. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:23, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge for now. Perhaps in the future it'll be large enough for centuries... Mason (talk) 22:01, 16 November 2023 (UTC)


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Sri Lankan people by occupation and ethnic or national origin
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:36, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
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 * Nominator's rationale: Following several previous discussions (1, 2, 3, 4), these are other occupations for which there does not seem to be merit for ethnic-based categorization, according to WP:EGRS/I.
 * pinging participants to previous discussions. Place Clichy (talk) 15:13, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge, trivial intersections between ethnicity and occupation. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:16, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per WP:TRIVIALCAT and WP:NARROWCAT. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 18:28, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Mason (talk) 21:51, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge for Now I'm not sure if other editing guidelines apply or not but, for now, these are clearly WP:NARROWCAT. - RevelationDirect (talk) 13:31, 20 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Women spies in fiction
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:37, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting women spies in fiction
 * Nominator's rationale: Created by blocked sock who likes making unnecessary gender-specific categories. Category:Spy fiction is defining, but I do not believe the fact that it is about a male or female spy, specifically, is defining. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:18, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Many films include both men and women in this type of role — for example, the YRF Spy Universe. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 18:30, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support. But we should check to make sure that no page is inadvertently disconnected from Spy fiction. Mason (talk) 21:52, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Articles will still remain part of the spies tree, e.g. in Category:Indian spy action films. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:25, 11 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Hawaii suffragists
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 18:23, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Hawaii suffragists to Category:Suffragists from Hawaii
 * Nominator's rationale: Duplicate categories (same parent categories, same list article). Although the target category is the more recent duplicate (created on 9 October), it is more consistent with the format of its siblings in Category:American suffragists by state (itself currently under discussion for renaming to Category:American suffragists by state or territory). Place Clichy (talk) 11:34, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:18, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. I think that that you could have speedied this by nominating the older one to be renamed. Mason (talk) 21:54, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Children's Hour presenters
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 18:20, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting children's hour presenters
 * Nominator's rationale: Textbook WP:PERFCAT -- wooden superman  10:20, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:18, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Incidents in the history of Buddhism in Japan
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:History of Buddhism in Japan. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 18:24, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting incidents in the history of buddhism in japan
 * Nominator's rationale: This seems like a pointless category. We have child Category:Buddhist controversies in Japan and parent Category:History of Buddhism in Japan, and there is no 'indicents' category tree (Category:Incidents) is a redirect to Category:Accidents. Looking at ja wiki, where this category exists, it is a subcategory to Category:Events in Japan. So what we have here is effectively Category:Events in the history of Buddhism in Japan, which I think makes this topic not different from its parent Category:History of Buddhism in Japan I mentioned already. Delete (or upmerge?). <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  08:24, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Manually merge to Category:History of Buddhism in Japan, per nom. Note that the link with Buddhism is very unclear in a number of articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:33, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:21st century in Malabo
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 18:20, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:21st century in Malabo to Category:21st century in Equatorial Guinea
 * Nominator's rationale: 1 page in category Mason (talk) 04:07, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge for now, without prejudice to recreation of the category when more articles about this are written. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:22, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom and delete Category:Centuries in Malabo as it'll be empty, which I've tagged. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:48, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:American sugar plantation owners
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Category:19th-century Spanish Guinean people
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge as proposed by both nominator and . (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 18:22, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:19th-century Spanish Guinean people to Category:People from Spanish Guinea
 * Propose merging Category:20th-century Spanish Guinean people to Category:People from Spanish Guinea
 * Nominator's rationale: too small to diffuse by century Mason (talk) 03:18, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Dual merge, also to Category:19th-century African people and Category:20th-century African people respectively. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:39, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:21st-century Equatoguinean people by occupation
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 18:22, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:21st-century Equatoguinean people by occupation to Category:21st-century Equatoguinean people
 * Propose merging Category:Equatoguinean people by century and occupation to Category:Equatoguinean people by occupation
 * Propose merging Category:Equatoguinean women by century to Category:Equatoguinean women
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge as there's only one category in here. It's not helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 03:08, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:40, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


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