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Category:I-Kiribati men by occupation

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:I-Kiribati men. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 22:31, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:I-Kiribati men by occupation to Category:I-Kiribati men
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Having only one category is not helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 23:22, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:47, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:1992 in Yugoslav sport

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename, with split for 1992 and 1990s. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:32, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:1992 in Yugoslav sport to Category:1992 in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sport
 * Propose renaming Category:1993 in Yugoslav sport to Category:1993 in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sport
 * Propose renaming Category:1994 in Yugoslav sport to Category:1994 in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sport
 * Propose renaming Category:1995 in Yugoslav sport to Category:1995 in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sport
 * Propose renaming Category:1996 in Yugoslav sport to Category:1996 in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sport
 * Propose renaming Category:1997 in Yugoslav sport to Category:1997 in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sport
 * Propose renaming Category:1998 in Yugoslav sport to Category:1998 in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sport
 * Propose renaming Category:1999 in Yugoslav sport to Category:1999 in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sport
 * Propose renaming Category:2000 in Yugoslav sport to Category:2000 in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sport
 * Propose renaming Category:2001 in Yugoslav sport to Category:2001 in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sport
 * Propose renaming Category:2002 in Yugoslav sport to Category:2002 in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sport
 * Propose renaming Category:2003 in Yugoslav sport to Category:2003 in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sport
 * Propose renaming Category:1990s in Yugoslav sport to Category:1990s in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sport
 * Propose renaming Category:2000s in Yugoslav sport to Category:2000s in Federal Republic of Yugoslavia sport
 * Nominator's rationale: This proposal follows the pattern of other FRY category renames done over the last few weeks, like here or here or here. Do we add a definite article in the names? Not sure what's best for readability and/or use in supporting templates like YYY0s in nationality sport category header. --Joy (talk) 12:30, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:38, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Just a note that the '92 category should get re-created later, because Yugoslavia at the 1992 Winter Olympics belongs there as it describes transitional events from February '92 when former Yugoslavia was in the process of breakup. The majority of stuff, after April '92, goes to FRY categorization. --Joy (talk) 23:20, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Comparison of Indo-European languages

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 * The result of the discussion was: Split Unpoosed for three weeks. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:41, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:Comparison of Indo-European languages to Category:Proto-Indo-European language and Category:Language comparison
 * Nominator's rationale: split, the category consists of three articles about the Proto-Indo-European language but not so much about language comparison and the remainder is about specific language comparisons, not broadly for the Indo-European language family. The two sets of articles are unrelated. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:53, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Films about violence

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 * The result of the discussion was: containerize by selectively upmerging articles within the nominated categories. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 22:40, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose containerizing films about violence
 * Propose containerizing fiction about violence
 * Propose containerizing works about violence
 * Nominator's rationale: containerize, violence in general is a far too common theme in films, but the subcategories are useful. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:08, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment Why just films? I don't see how that doesn't apply to fiction in general. Category:Fiction about violence and Category:Works about violence should preferably be included in this. It could be a possibility to upmerge them to multiple categories, such as "conflict", "crime" or "social issues" depending on the subcategory. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:41, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You are right, I added them. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:41, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * There's also Category:Violence in culture, I just realized. That would count as well. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:59, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That is already a container category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Selectively upmerge to the parent categories. Crime and/or social issues, depending on the subcategory's topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:03, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That is nice advice to keep in mind when processing the nomination, i.e. moving the articles to a better place while containerizing. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional martial artists by type

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 23:28, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional martial artists by type to Category:Fictional martial artists
 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant category per WP:NARROWCAT. A blocked user moved these here, they should be moved back. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:40, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment, it does mirror Category:Martial artists by type. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:47, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep There are five subcategories here, and there could be more if Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_23 is merged in. The parent has 3 more subcategories sorted by other attributes (female/male and Category:Fictional martial arts trainers). –LaundryPizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 09:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep for these same reasons. AHI-3000 (talk) 18:20, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional elective mutes
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 12:42, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional elective mutes to Category:Fictional mute characters
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge as unnecessarily specific overcategorization. There are only four actual characters in this category, and Elective mutism is in itself an outdated term that is no longer recognized by psychiatrists. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:13, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment, Category:Fictional mute characters is not a proper merge target, these characters aren't mute but refuse to speak. If the category is not kept then it would be better to just delete it. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:55, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Lean oppose. It seems pretty defining to me. At the very least this should be also merged to Category:Elective mutes Mason (talk) 20:49, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Mike albums
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Mike (musician) albums. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 22:31, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Mike albums to Category:Mike (musician) albums
 * Nominator's rationale: Created the category, it should be moved to Category:Mike (musician) albums so it links to Mike (musician) instead of the disambig page Mike. मल्ल (talk) 04:57, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Rename per WP:C2D, this could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename per above. VegaDark (talk) 01:01, 1 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Vice Chancellors from Banaras Hindu University
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 22:30, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting vice chancellors from banaras hindu university
 * Nominator's rationale: This is a very trivial intersection and not a defining characteristic. At best this deserves a mention in the person's article (employment/education) &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  03:59, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Vice Chancellors of Banaras Hindu University as it is an apparent duplicate. Don't delete, because Category:Vice Chancellors of Banaras Hindu University is a valid subcategory of Category:Vice-Chancellors by university in India. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:04, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose merge, it is not the same. The nominated article is for people(alumni and staff) from the Banaras Hindu Univ who went on to become Vice Chancellor of any university, anywhere, while Category:Vice Chancellors of Banaras Hindu University is of anyone who has been a Vice Chancellor of Banaras Hindu Univ. User4edits (talk) User4edits (talk) 09:43, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I misunderstood the intention of the category. Then delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:12, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I was so confused. Thank you User4edits for clarifying. Mason (talk) 21:33, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Banaras Hindu University alumni per definition above. Respublik (talk) 14:50, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Not a subset, this includes people who've worked at Banaras Hindu University but did not study there. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  16:51, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Jewish businesspeople by nationality
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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 03:41, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Jewish businesspeople by nationality to Category:Jewish businesspeople
 * Propose merging Category:German Jewish businesspeople to Category:German Jews and Category:German businesspeople
 * Nominator's rationale: Right now this category doesn't help navigation (with only one category in it). Notably, there isn't a main category category: Jewish businesspeople, so I think we should repurpose this small category and reparent it. Then we can add in category:Jewish bankers‎ Mason (talk) 02:03, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OCEGRS. Category: Jewish businesspeople was deleted for the same reason. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Perfectly fine by me. Does that mean we should manually upmerge the only child category from Category:German Jewish businesspeople to Category:German Jews, while we're at it? Mason (talk) 21:34, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes please. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:56, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Added, and have added folks from the German Jewish businesspeople category to the proper merge categories. Mason (talk) 23:24, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. But merging won't be needed, the articles are already in century subcategories of the targets. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:58, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Countries in fiction
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Fiction by country of setting. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 22:22, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Countries in fiction to Category:Fiction about countries
 * Nominator's rationale: Must be a defining trait. I'm not sure if this should instead be Category:Fiction by country of setting. The subcategories that are not about specific countries (e.g. Category:Island countries in fiction) will be renamed in the same way, but I'm not yet decided about the ones about specific countries (e.g. Category:Honduras in fiction). –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 01:22, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Mason (talk) 01:23, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Alt rename to Category:Fiction by country of setting per parent Category:Works by country of setting. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:08, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Alt rename to Category:Fiction by country of setting, it's not so much about the concept of countries as set in them. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:31, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Palauan men by occupation
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge all as nominated with no prejudice against recreation if the category can be appropriately populated. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 22:23, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Palauan men by occupation to Category:Palauan men
 * Propose merging Category:West German women by occupation to Category:West German women
 * Propose merging Category:Sint Maarten women by occupation to Category:Sint Maarten women
 * Propose merging Category:Sint Eustatius women by occupation to Category:Sint Eustatius women
 * Propose merging Category:Montserratian women by occupation to Category:Montserratian women
 * Propose merging Category:Saint Pierre and Miquelon women by occupation to Category:Saint Pierre and Miquelon women
 * Propose merging Category:Saint Barthélemy women by occupation to Category:Saint Barthélemy women
 * Propose merging Category:Pitcairn Islands women by occupation to Category:Pitcairn Islands women
 * Propose merging Category:Saint Martinois women by occupation to Category:Saint Martinois women
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now, at present it doesn't help navigation with only one category in it Mason (talk) 01:07, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when multiple reasonably well populated subcategories can be added. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:10, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Convents in fiction
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Works set in convents. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 21:25, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Convents in fiction to Category:Works set in convents
 * Nominator's rationale: Contains only subcategories by setting, including the target. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 00:59, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Mason (talk) 01:23, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Manually downmerge per nom (downmerging always requires manual action). Or phrased alternatively (with exactly the same result): re-parent Category:Works set in convents and delete Category:Convents in fiction. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:18, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


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