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Category:Wikimedia Regional Conferences

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Wiki-related conferences with no prejudice against recreation if the category can be appropriately populated.. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 00:40, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikimedia regional conferences
 * Nominator's rationale: Only contains one page of the same name. Lewcm Talk to me! 23:40, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge for now to Category:Wiki-related conferences, without objection to recreate the category when more articles about regional conferences are created. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:32, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, I support merging, I wasn’t aware that category existed when I made the CFD - thanks :) Lewcm Talk to me! 09:24, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Children's books set in New York

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 * The result of the discussion was: dabify (which includes purging the article). (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 21:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Children's books set in New York to Category:Children's books set in New York City
 * Nominator's rationale: The category only contains 1 item, and the categories for New York City and State both exist already. Lewcm Talk to me! 23:38, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support in principle. Can we turn it into a disambiguation category (or whatever it's called)? Or would that just perpetuate the problem by providing a third category? Mason (talk) 23:50, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Purge article, its setting is unclear, the cover suggests that it is set at the beach. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:38, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Burn survivors in fiction

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Fiction about burn survivors. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 00:39, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Burn survivors in fiction to Category:Fiction about burn survivors
 * Nominator's rationale: Consistency with precedent about X-in-fiction categories. The alternative is to rename to Category:Fictional burn survivors and limit to characters. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 21:01, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Fictional burn survivors. AHI-3000 (talk) 01:41, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: do you want to rename to Category:Fiction about burn survivors or Category:Fictional burn survivors? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlastertalk 22:50, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename to clarify that it concerns a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:24, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom Mason (talk) 02:57, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 13:15, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
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 * good question, but I did not receive a ping, so perhaps it is technically not possible to ping while relisting. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:04, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Huh. In that case, fixing failed pings: <span id="HouseBlaster:1700955165964:WikipediaFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_25" class="FTTCmt">HouseBlastertalk 23:32, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Clarify, it should become Category:Fiction about burn survivors because a significant number of articles are about works rather than about characters. I do not see merit in purging the works. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:04, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I think reenaming the category to Fiction about burn survivors is better because it is broader. I don't think we should narrow the category to just about the characters themselves. If needed the subcategory of Fictional burn survivors could be added as a subcategory in the future, but the category doesn't need to be diffused right now. Mason (talk) 23:46, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support rename to Category:Fiction about burn survivors, thanks for the ping -- Lenticel ( talk ) 04:15, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional market stallholders
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Category:Imperium (Warhammer 40,000)
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge both to Category:Warhammer 40,000 and Category:Military science fiction characters (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  12:58, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Imperium (Warhammer 40,000) to Category:Warhammer 40,000 characters
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one article and two redirects; main article no longer exists. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 13:51, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * I'd go further and merge both to Category:Warhammer 40,000. This is all in-universe and unlikely to expand much in future. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 14:36, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge both to Category:Warhammer 40,000 per Thumperward, it mostly consists of redirects. No prejudice towards its recreation if more actual articles concerning the characters are made. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:05, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment, I have tagged the target as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:41, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Question, if both are merged, shouldn't they also be merged to Category:Military science fiction characters? Marcocapelle (talk) 18:41, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
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 * Comment There's like, one article there that's actually not a redirect, but yes, should also be put in military sci-fi characters. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:57, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

My gut feeling is that most of the characters cats will themselves eventually be deleted (because most of it is, yet again, in-universe junk) whereas the 40k cat might stick around (and it it doesn't, the new correct parent wpuld be category:Games Workshop). Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 08:00, 28 November 2023 (UTC)


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Science fiction location redirects
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Category:Fictional spacecraft by type
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Category:Fiction about superhuman features or abilities
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Category:African presence at the Scottish royal court
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Category:Surat Metro stations
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Category:Films shot in Apta railway station
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. No opposition after 2.5 weeks; WP:REFUND applies. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 21:53, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting films shot in apta railway station
 * Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization by venue. We can categorize films by the geographic locations (province, state, city, town, etc.) where they were filmed, if numbers warrant, but we don't ordinarily categorize films by specific building that might have been used as a set -- and it's not at all clear that Apta railway station would have enough special significance to warrant unique treatment that most other buildings aren't getting. Bearcat (talk) 17:52, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Tift College alumni
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete with no prejudice against recreation if the category can be appropriately populated. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 00:37, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting tift college alumni
 * Nominator's rationale: Single-entry category for just one alumna of a defunct college. As always, every educational institution that exists does not automatically get one of these the moment one former student has an article to file in it -- there would need to be at least five people to file here before a category for them was warranted, but a scan of the college's what-links-here failed to turn up four other alumni. Bearcat (talk) 17:45, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Alternative. How about we broaden the scope of the category to Category:Tift College Mason (talk) 17:49, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * There would still have to be at least five articles to file in that — but none of them could be people, because if the college doesn't have dedicated "Alumni of" and "Academic staff of" subcategories then the alumni and academic staff do not go directly into "College" as a substitute for alumni or academic staff subcategories either. So the college would have to have at least five articles about inanimate things associated with it to justify an eponymous category for the college itself, and there would still have to be at least five alumni before they got any Tift-related categorization at all. Bearcat (talk) 17:56, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Good point. Support per nom. Perhaps eventually there will be enough to support a category, but it seems like not yet. Thanks for explaining it :) Mason (talk) 23:53, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete for now, without objection to recreate the category when more articles about alumni are created. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:52, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Musicals originally directed by George Abbott
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Category:People from the French colonial empire
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Category:People from Acadia
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Acadian people. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 00:36, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Acadia to Category:Acadian people
 * Nominator's rationale: overlapping category Mason (talk) 16:22, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge or reverse merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:01, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:French people in French Chad
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Category:French people in French Cambodia
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Category:People from the Republic of China
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 * The result of the discussion was: containerize. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 00:33, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose containerizing people from the republic of china
 * Nominator's rationale: containerize, unless people have a more specific relationship with this regime it is not defining. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:46, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Mason (talk) 16:23, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Butterdiplomat (talk) 10:55, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. VegaDark (talk) 00:59, 1 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Republic of China journalists
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:20th-century Chinese journalists. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 00:33, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Republic of China journalists to Category:20th-century Chinese journalists
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, not a defining intersection with political regime. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:41, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. No Taiwanese journalists (1945 to present) in the category anyway. Butterdiplomat (talk) 11:22, 29 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional English people of Scottish descent
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 00:32, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fictional english people of scottish descent
 * Propose deleting fictional english people of welsh descent
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic of the articles in these categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:06, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Mason (talk) 17:48, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Indo-European genetics
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 00:32, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting indo-european genetics
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, Indo-European is not a defining characteristic of these articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:33, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 09:38, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-defining (the term "Indo-European genetics" itself is ill-defined). –Austronesier (talk) 20:04, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Indo-European history
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Category:19th-century Sudanese people by occupation
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:19th-century Sudanese people. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 00:32, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:19th-century Sudanese people by occupation to Category:19th-century Sudanese people
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now, only one occupation in here. it doesn't help navigation Mason (talk) 05:18, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:27, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


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Categories for video games based on TV shows with only two articles in each
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Video games based on television series. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 00:41, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:Action Pack (Universal Television) video games
 * Propose deleting Category:Video games based on ALF (TV series)
 * Propose deleting Category:Video games based on Alarm für Cobra 11 – Die Autobahnpolizei
 * Propose deleting Category:Video games based on The Fairly OddParents
 * Propose deleting Category:Codename: Kids Next Door video games
 * Propose deleting Category:Video games based on Daria
 * Propose deleting Category:Video games based on Darkwing Duck
 * Propose deleting Category:The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle and Friends video games
 * Propose deleting Category:Video games based on Totally Spies!
 * Propose deleting Category:Video games based on Dancing with the Stars
 * Propose deleting Category:Video games based on Deadliest Warrior
 * Nominator's rationale: All of these only have two articles each within them, and make it harder for readers to browse the subcategories of Category:Video games based on television series to see what series have 3+ notable video game adaptations. QuietCicada - Talk 03:47, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Video games based on television series rather than delete. I checked whether the articles are already directly interlinked only for the last category, and that appeared to be the case. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge Per Marcocapelle and WP:SMALLCAT. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:59, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Zxcvbnm FYI, smallcat isn't a policy anymore. Mason (talk) 00:46, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, my bad, I wasn't aware that happened last month.
 * Still, I believe these ought to be merged, as it creates a Pandora's Box of making categories for literally every form of media that has 1-2 spinoff games. This is simply too broad. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:55, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Bahraini women by century
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Bahraini women. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 00:31, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Bahraini women by century to Category:Bahraini women
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one category in here. Upmerge for now as it doesn't aid navigation Mason (talk) 02:41, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge for now per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:34, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:19th-century Algerian people by occupation
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:19th-century Algerian people. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 00:28, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:19th-century Algerian people by occupation to Category:19th-century Algerian people
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now as it doesn't help navigation to have only one category in here Mason (talk) 02:32, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:20th-century assassinated Asian politicians
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Category:Fictional characters from Tuscany
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 00:28, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting fictional characters from tuscany
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. The subcategory is already in Category:Fictional Italian people by populated place. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:04, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom Mason (talk) 16:24, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


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