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Category:Fictional characters by gender

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional characters. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 12:42, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional characters by gender to Category:Fictional characters
 * Nominator's rationale: Seems like WP:NARROWCAT. I think we all know these are genders, there's no need for a separate category to explain as such to people. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:43, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom, or else merge to Category:Fictional characters by physical feature which is currently a parent category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:11, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge By-gender categories are necessarily small, as the onyl options are female, male, or non-binary. I might nominate all of the remaining by-gender categories once this is done. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 08:30, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge as per the last suggestion made here. I don't see why this needs to be a separate category. Wareon (talk) 04:53, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Television shows set in Wales by city
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 5%23Category:Television shows set in Wales by city

Category:Magical girl characters in anime and manga
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 5%23Category:Magical girl characters in anime and manga

Category:Cashew fruit drinks
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 5%23Category:Cashew fruit drinks

Category:20th-century Nauruan people by occupation

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:20th-century Nauruan people. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 12:40, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:20th-century Nauruan people by occupation to Category:20th-century Nauruan people
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 14:28, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:08, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


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Irish TV programme presenters

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 12:39, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting you're a star presenters
 * Propose deleting prime time (irish tv programme) presenters
 * Propose deleting the den (tv programme) presenters
 * Propose deleting other voices presenters
 * Propose deleting the panel (irish tv series) presenters
 * Propose deleting ireland am hosts
 * Propose deleting xposé hosts
 * Nominator's rationale: Clear breach of WP:PERFCAT -- wooden superman  11:20, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:23, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Wareon (talk) 04:59, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Mexico City International Tournament
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (or merge, if that's what you wish to call it. As Marcocapelle said, they have the same effect in this case.) Nom is cautioned that it is generally ill-advised to empty a category after taking it to CfD. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 12:45, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting mexico city international tournament
 * Nominator's rationale: Single purpose category <b style="color:#fffdd0">zoglophie</b> <sup style="color:#1167b1">•talk• 11:10, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to Badminton tournaments in Mexico. This could have been speedy merged. Mason (talk) 14:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Upmerge/delete (those two actions have the same effect, in this case) per WP:C2F. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Category has been emptied by nominator. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:12, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Rabbis by state in the United States
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:American rabbis by state. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 12:43, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Rabbis by state in the United States to Category:Rabbis in the United States by state
 * Nominator's rationale: To match the name with the parent category Category:Jews and Judaism in the United States by state and other similarly names categories. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Rename, by default the splitter is at the end. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:26, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support and rename per nom and Marcocapelle (I'm glad I got it right with Category:Crimes in New Jersey by decade).  Stony Brook  babble 20:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support in principle. But I think that the name should be Category:American rabbis by state, given that the parent is American rabbis Mason (talk) 00:54, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That is a very good point too. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:25, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed, similar to the contents of Category:American people by occupation by state.  Stony Brook  babble 09:09, 28 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Robot Wars (TV series) presenters
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 12:39, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting robot wars (tv series) presenters
 * Nominator's rationale: Textbook WP:PERFCAT -- wooden superman  08:54, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:26, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Murders in Kyrgyzstan by decade
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Murder in Kyrgyzstan. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 12:38, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Murders in Kyrgyzstan by decade to Category:Murder in Kyrgyzstan
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, that's not helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 02:19, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom, redundant category layer. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Upmerge per nom. Unnecessary category step. Sionk (talk) 23:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Also looks trivial. Wareon (talk) 05:03, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Non-profit organizations based in Unionville, Virginia
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete with no prejudice against recreation if the category can be appropriately populated. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 12:37, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting non-profit organizations based in unionville, virginia
 * Nominator's rationale: as per WP:SMALLCAT. The one entry is under prod at the moment. LibStar (talk) 02:15, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete for now, without objection to recreate the category when more articles are created. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:51, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment This category is empty now. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 02:50, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Empty category. Wareon (talk) 05:02, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


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Category:20th-century crimes in the Russian Empire
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 12:42, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:20th-century crimes in the Russian Empire to Category:20th-century crimes in Russia
 * Propose merging Category:20th-century murders in the Russian Empire to Category:20th-century murders in Russia
 * Nominator's rationale: overlapping category. it's not helpful to have two separate categories in the same century. The norm is for the 20th-century category to say "Russia" not empire Mason (talk) 01:58, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose merging Saying there should beno overlapping categories ignores the fall of four empires after or during WWI (the Austro-Hungarian empire, German Empire, Ottoman Empire and Russian Empire!). There are 20th century decades for several – Category:1910s in Austria-Hungary  and Category:1920s in the Ottoman Empire. Other Empires by decade are Category:Decades in the Italian Empire from the 1880s to te 1940s. And if merging to “Russia” it should be by decade ie to Category:1910s crimes in Russia and Category:1920s crimes in Russia to go with  Category:1970s crimes in Russia. Note that Category:Years in the Soviet Union runs  from 1922 to 1991. Hugo999 (talk) 03:46, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose merging "The norm is for the 20th-century category to say "Russia" " Who the heck set that silly norm? The Russian Empire had a much different size than the Russian Federation. Dimadick (talk) 04:08, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose, the Russian Empire came to an end in 1917, not in 1900. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:33, 29 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional martial arts trainers
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 00:27, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b>talk 12:37, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Fictional martial arts trainers to Category:Fictional martial arts masters
 * Nominator's rationale: This category was created by a dubious account, but I think it would be defining if renamed to align with the "martial arts master" stock character. I don't think simply being a "trainer" is defining, however. It has to be their entire character and some, like Batman, must be purged from the category. (Mr. Miyagi, Master Roshi and Yoda would stay in). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:17, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose Matches the equivalent real-world category, Category:Martial arts trainers. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 02:25, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Oppose per LaundryPizza03's argument. Dimadick (talk) 04:10, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose for same reasons AHI-3000 (talk) 19:41, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


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