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Category:Explorer 5

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:40, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting explorer 5
 * Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category newly created just to hold a single photograph. As always, every photograph does not automatically require the creation of a dedicated eponymous category at the proper name of the specific thing or person depicted in the photograph -- we just categorize photographs by the class of topic depicted, and it doesn't aid navigation of Wikipedia to obsessively filter everything down into microcategories of one. Bearcat (talk) 22:48, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. The jpg file may be added to an appropriate subcategory in the tree of Category:Wikipedia images. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:04, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * There is also an article on Explorer 5, but I'm not seeing much else that could go in this category. The existing Category:Explorers Program seems to do the job there just fine. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 09:47, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Wareon (talk) 19:42, 19 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Western Ultimate League Teams
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Category:Echinolaena

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 15:53, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting category
 * Nominator's rationale: Genus only has 2 other species and goes against WikiProject Plants/Categorization. Cryptic.rat (talk) 16:22, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Pichpich (talk) 16:46, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment The nominator has emptied this category. Liz Read! Talk! 01:27, 8 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Current-Class articles

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete all per G8. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:44, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting current-class articles
 * Nominator's rationale: This category and all of its sub-categories are not used anymore by the WikiProject banner templates. Templates_for_discussion/Log/2023 October 26 has a list of the few custom /class templates left, none of which have sub-categories listed here. Gonnym (talk) 13:28, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete whole tree per C1. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 13:44, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as obsolete cruft.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  17:40, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * procedural oppose, the subcategories should be listed and tagged, just deleting the parent category does not make sense. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:55, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as G8, which doesn't require tagging. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:54, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, then C1 all the empty subcats per this discussion. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 05:53, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Russian Empire commanders of the Napoleonic Wars
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Category:The West Wing redirected episode articles

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:52, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting the west wing redirected episode articles
 * Nominator's rationale: While I understand the intent behind the creation of this category, I don't think this was a good idea. Episode redirects should be tagged with the correct redirect template which will place them in the relevant category. In this case, Category:The West Wing episode redirects to lists. This just creates a semi-duplicate category tree which I hope this is the only current member of. Gonnym (talk) 12:48, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom; all members should already be in the other category. –LaundryPizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 16:02, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Figurehead
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:01, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting figurehead
 * Nominator's rationale: Borderline WP:C2F. The only content here is eponymous article Figurehead (which is rather poor) and child, a pretty synonymous notion according to the article. So this would basically be a down merge, as the eponymous article is already in the child category. Place Clichy (talk) 08:33, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:58, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Maybe Category:Figureheads should be created as a catredirect to, though. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 20:51, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That could make sense, so rename Category:Figurehead to Category:Figureheads, then convert to redirect. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:36, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not in favour of a redirect. Article figurehead says it describes holders of an important office, not necessarily just heads of state. Place Clichy (talk) 13:05, 11 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Posthumous births
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:00, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting posthumous births
 * Propose deleting posthumous daughters
 * Nominator's rationale: Interesting, but clearly this is a trivial and non-defining characteristic, so these aren't appropriate categories. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:57, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep, maybe purge somewhat. I believe this notion is mostly important in the context of monarchy and hereditary succession, but in this context it is pretty damn important as countries have been kept on edge for months. It is certainly defining for John the Posthumous, Ladislaus the Posthumous, Stephen the Posthumous and many others. Probably not so much for the like of Motilal Nehru (although the Nehru-Gandhi are a dynasty of their own) or Clark James Gable. Maybe rename (and rescope) to // and make a child of //. Although I wonder if that is not too restrictive seen the case of Henri, Count of Chambord, whose birth as posthumous son of the assassinated heir to the throne is quite notable and should be included imho. Place Clichy (talk) 08:53, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, while the topic it is important for country politics, it is trivial for individual people. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:02, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete and listfy. Mason (talk) 00:16, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Posthumous birth already contains a list. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:08, 8 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:What's Your Rupture? artists
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Category:Distinguished professors in the United States
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge and delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 15:58, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Distinguished professors in the United States to Category:American academics
 * Propose merging Category:Distinguished professors in Iran to Category:Iranian academics
 * Propose merging Category:Distinguished professors to Category:Professorships by subject
 * Nominator's rationale: overlapping category that's not defining for individuals. see recent discussion Mason (talk) 02:09, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Support in principle, but just delete the first and second category because articles are already elsewhere under the target, e.g. in Category:American philosophy academics. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:05, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Distinguished professors of philosophy
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 15:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Distinguished professors of philosophy to Category:Philosophy academics
 * Nominator's rationale: not defining, perhaps could be containerized for several named professorships in philoshopy Mason (talk) 02:07, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:07, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Northwestern Medicine faculty
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:54, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Northwestern Medicine faculty to Category:Feinberg School of Medicine faculty
 * Nominator's rationale: overlapping category Mason (talk) 01:49, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 15:59, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Emeritus Professors in India
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 16:00, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Emeritus Professors in India to Category:Indian academics
 * Nominator's rationale: not defining. you're welcome to convert this into a list Mason (talk) 01:32, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Support in principle, but just delete because articles are already elsewhere under the target, e.g. in Category:Scientists from West Bengal. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Non-Korean Korean independence activists
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 * The result of the discussion was: No consensus to delete, hence rename to Category:Foreign supporters of Korean independence * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 04:40, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting non-korean korean independence activists
 * Nominator's rationale: this is not defining Mason (talk) 04:24, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm just now reading WP:DEFINING, but to my understanding the category is defining. See articles like for Ernest Bethell. Koreans love foreigners who advocated for Korean independence, and write about them frequently. Another example,  for George Ashmore Fitch. toobigtokale (talk) 04:30, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Non-Korean is the issue that's not defining. Being "non-korean" isn't something people would be described as. A rename might be helpful to something like, Activists for Korean independence. Mason (talk) 01:45, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlastertalk 00:09, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * If not kept, merge to Category:Korean independence activists. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:45, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
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 * I believe this category could be kept, but it probably needs a better name. See, and  for kinda similar situations. I would suggest . (I wonder if Koreanophile is an actual word, it seems to have some catchment.) Maybe also purge selectively, as I doubt that  is primarily defined as a Korean independence activist. In a past discussion we preferred "foreign" to "non-German". Place Clichy (talk) 09:39, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * And apparently there's also Koreaphile. Place Clichy (talk) 17:25, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support . toobigtokale (talk) 09:46, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


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