Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 2

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Category:Russian amputees

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 18:47, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting russian amputees
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:EGRS/I: this intersection is not defining. Edward-Woodrow  •  talk  22:35, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose, this is part of the tree of Category:Amputees by nationality. Admittedly nationality is trivial too here, but nationality is the main intersection criterion for the entire tree of Category:People. Most certainly WP:EGRS/I does not apply: nationality is not ethnicity. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:39, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep, as par of established trees and . WP:CATDEF explicitly cite the nationality of a person or the geographic location of a place as defining characteristics. Large categories are routinely diffused by such obviously defining characteristics. If you disagree with such categorization, I suggest two possible roads :
 * If you consider for an individual article that amputation is anecdotal and not a defining characteristic worth a category, or otherwise not sufficiently supported by reliable sources, you may be bold and immediately remove the category for that article. Present your concise rationale in an edit summary, and be prepared to discuss the matter in the article's talk page if another editor objects.
 * If you consider that amputation is never defining for any article, then you need to nominate and all of its categories for discussion, not just the Russian one. Place Clichy (talk) 08:23, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose deletion. Amputee is defining, and the intersection with nationality makes the entire category manageable. Mason (talk) 23:47, 3 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Jubilee Medal "Ashig Alasgar – 200"

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 18:47, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting recipients of the jubilee medal "ashig alasgar – 200"
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD. An anniversary medal rather than that for achievements. Brandmeistertalk  21:24, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Place Clichy (talk) 08:29, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:27, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Recipients of the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic 100th anniversary medal

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 18:47, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting recipients of the azerbaijan democratic republic 100th anniversary medal
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD, with all due respect to the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic. An anniversary medal rather than that for achievements. Partial list of recipients is at Azerbaijan Democratic Republic 100th anniversary medal and could be expanded there. Brandmeistertalk  21:13, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Place Clichy (talk) 08:29, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:27, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Destroyed towns
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Category:Culture of Hokkaido

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 18:52, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Culture of Hokkaido to Category:Culture in Hokkaido
 * Nominator's rationale: All the other categories for culture in prefectures such as Category:Culture in Gunma Prefecture use in rather than of Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 18:25, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Mild keep. Then again, Japanese culture by region, another parent, consistently uses of, such as . Place Clichy (talk) 08:34, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep It is the others that should be renamed, as non-Japanese counterparts such as Category:Culture of Ireland use of as well. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 04:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Culture of Karelia
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Category:Wikipedians who like the SCP Foundation

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 18:52, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedians who like the scp foundation
 * Nominator's rationale: Unencyclopedic social networking. We already have the properly named (but IMO still of questionably value) Category:Wikipedians who contribute to the SCP Foundation, and definitely don't need two categories. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:57, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Questions? four OLIfanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:58, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:16, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:22, 5 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedians who made mentions of Among Us prohibited on pages about Greek mythology

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 13:46, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedians who made mentions of among us prohibited on pages about greek mythology
 * Nominator's rationale: Patent nonsense. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:57, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:18, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Questions? four OLIfanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:59, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Eh... While this is patent nonsense, this was a redlink on the userpage of a somewhat-established user. C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 18:55, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Comments - So I went to try to figure this out. I "think", it's referring to Among Us. But didn't see anything in their contribs around the time of its creation to indicate what it's about. And it's on the userpage of someone who apparently made more than a few redlinked cats, which were then made blue. See this edit for the mass addition of cats like as Category:Wikipedians who enjoy cracking wise with categories, and the nominated one as well. - jc37 09:04, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Kingdom of Serbia people

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 18:55, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Kingdom of Serbia people to Category:People from the Kingdom of Serbia
 * Propose merging Category:Kingdom of Serbia expatriates to Category:Expatriates from the Kingdom of Serbia
 * Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason (talk) 12:53, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge, very obviously. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:20, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:British scholars
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Category:British Christian hymnwriters by nationality
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Category:Puerto Rican television presenters
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 * The result of the discussion was: option A. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 18:57, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Option A: Propose renaming: to
 * Option B: Propose renaming: to
 * Nominator's rationale: From the introduction of article Television presenter (redirected from ), it seems that these terms are used one for the other. I guess this is an WP:ENGVAR issue. Out of, the majority use presenters but some use hosts, including . Puerto Rico seems to be the only place with two concurrent categories. I would bend towards option A per the parent American category, and hosts is an older category where most of the content actually is, which is IMHO that this is a usage compatible with Puerto Rico. Place Clichy (talk) 10:42, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Option A per nom. This is indeed an ENGVAR issue: what much of the world would call a television "presenter", North American English speakers call a television "host", so they're just different words for the same job rather than different things. So there's no pressing need for two separate categories here — and although Puerto Rico isn't a principally English-speaking area, it is a territory of the United States rather than a fully independent country in its own right, and should thus remain in line with the American "hosts". But "presenters" should remain in place as a redirect to catch any future mistakes around this, as the parent also already has. Bearcat (talk) 14:05, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Option A per nom and also how Bearcat explained. Keep "presenter" as a redirect... --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 04:19, 4 October 2023 (UTC)


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Sri Lankan people by occupation and ethnic or national origin (science & legal)
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 * Nominator's rationale: Following previous discussions (1 and 2) and the discussion below, here is another set of occupations for which I do not see any obvious merit in ethnic-based categorization, per WP:EGRS/I. pinging participants to previous discussion. Place Clichy (talk) 09:39, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Place Clichy no need to ping me in any of these, I just closed the discussion. Qwerfjkl  talk  09:45, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support. per nom Mason (talk) 11:59, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge, I can't see why any of these occupations would be related to ethnicity. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:58, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge all per WP:OCEGRS. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 02:36, 3 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:LGBT Bahá'ís
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 11%23Category:LGBT Bahá'ís

Paintings and sculptures in museums by nationality
Relisted, see Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 16%23Paintings and sculptures in museums by nationality

Sri Lankan people by occupation and ethnic or national origin
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 19:00, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
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 * Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to this discussion and this discussion. Trivial intersections per WP:EGRS/I Place Clichy (talk) 00:14, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * pinging participants to previous discussion. Place Clichy (talk) 01:42, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:OCEGRS. Some are also WP:NARROWCAT by nature of being a triple intersection (Tamils + Sri Lankans + occupation). –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 04:15, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge/support per nom. Mason (talk) 11:55, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


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