Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 6

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Category:Emigrants from the Kingdom of Ireland

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Irish emigrants. (non-admin closure)  Edward-Woodrow  •  talk  12:19, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Emigrants from the Kingdom of Ireland to Category:Irish emigrants
 * Nominator's rationale: I don't think that distinguishing by regime is helpful here. Overlapping cat Mason (talk) 21:50, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * We categorize people by their time period and geopolitical entity as a rule ("Category:Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic people, Category:People of the Confederate States of America, etc.). You'd have to convince me why this is different, and you'd have to show how this doesn't break the existing Emigrants and Immigrants category tree, particularly Category:Emigrants from former countries. 67kevlar (talk) 15:13, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Whether the Kingdom of Ireland is a former country is arguable. It was controlled by the English both before and after the integration in the United Kingdom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:58, 14 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:02, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 00:11, 15 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Jewish explorers

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 (talk) 17:43, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting jewish explorers
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:EGRS/I violation: this intersection is not (remotely) relevant, and is thus undefining. Edward-Woodrow  •  talk  20:29, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support as per nom toobigtokale (talk) 07:16, 7 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:32, 7 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Social class in Latin America

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 * The result of the discussion was: split. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  18:06, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:Social class in Latin America to Category:Social class in North America and Category:Social class in South America
 * Nominator's rationale: split, using the more conventional split in continent. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:21, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support. per nom Mason (talk) 03:04, 7 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Russian Korean cuisine
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Category:Video games that break fourth wall

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Metafictional video games. (non-admin closure)  Edward-Woodrow  •  talk  20:04, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting video games that break fourth wall
 * Nominator's rationale: This category is not defining. Plenty of fictional works break the fourth wall. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:23, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Metafictional video games. Same thing, duplicate category with a typo in the name. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:57, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Metafictional video games. I wouldn't say they've exactly the same thing but there's clearly not nearly enough disparity to justify a separate category. ― novov (t   c)  10:05, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * 1. "This category is not defining". I mean exactly those games that do it in an interactive way. You need to read/edit/delete files that game creates. You need to move window outside the screen to "clean" the window and see something behind it. It is not about phrase of character "Hey player, did you know if it would in real life you couldn't swim 30 min without breathing...". Yeah such phrases are used by the "breaker" games but it is only one of the tools of those games...
 * 2. Games do it rarely. Cartoons, films, books also do it but they do it much more often than games and usually in a non interactive way.
 * 3. It is open to expansion with other items DustDFG (talk) 18:57, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * There is already a defining category for this, as stated above: the category for metafictional video games.
 * Video games that "just" break the fourth wall once, like a one-off gag or Easter egg or side episode, but are not specifically metafictional the entire way through, are not defining enough to be listed anyway. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:34, 8 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Rulers by century
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Category:Armenian churches in Azerbaijan

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Armenian Apostolic Church in Azerbaijan. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:28, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Armenian churches in Azerbaijan to Category:Armenian Apostolic Church in Azerbaijan
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:22, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support, per nom Sawyer-mcdonell (talk) 18:26, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Category:Armenian churches in Azerbaijan to Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in Azerbaijan - C2C - 2 redundant categories; all Armenian churches in Azerbaijan (that have articles) were/are Armenian Apostolic, and the name would be consistent with other subcategories in Category:Armenian Apostolic Church in Azerbaijan. Sawyer-mcdonell (talk) 20:36, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose speedy. This is not how c2c works.Mason (talk) 20:49, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * thanks for the clarification, my bad Sawyer-mcdonell (talk) 20:54, 1 October 2023 (UTC)


 * pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:30, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support merge. Mason (talk) 20:50, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Armenian churches in Nakhchivan

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in Nakhchivan. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:29, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Armenian churches in Nakhchivan to Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in Nakhchivan
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, just "Armenian" is ambiguous, the intention is that these church buildings belong to the Armenian Apostolic Church. The parent category is likewise named "Armenian Apostolic". Marcocapelle (talk) 14:16, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support, more precise. Sawyer-mcdonell (talk) 18:25, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Cultural properties designated by the prefecture
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Category:Palestinian people by territory

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Palestinian people. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 13:40, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Palestinian people by territory to Category:Palestinian people
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:00, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge. This used to hold Category:People from the Gaza Strip etc, but is now redundant to Category:People from the State of Palestine. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:55, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per above. --Kpratter (talk) 07:30, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Governorates of the Palestinian National Authority

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 13:39, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Governorates of the Palestinian National Authority to Category:Governorates of the State of Palestine
 * Nominator's rationale: rename per WP:C2C: parent is Category:Subdivisions of the State of Palestine. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:57, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Rename per WP:C2C. --Kpratter (talk) 07:30, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Local autonomy in each country

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. The title was suggested by another person at the speedy discussion, and this is an author request. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 21:31, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Local autonomy in each country to Category:Local government by country
 * Propose merging Category:Local autonomy in Japan to Category:Local government in Japan
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, largely overlapping topics. Local government implies some sort of autonomy for local authorities, otherwise they would be redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:41, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Category:Local autonomy in Japan to Category:Local self-governance in Japan – C2E. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 19:32, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * New created tree, but I think this overlaps too much with Category:Local government. I.e. the target should become Category:Local government in Japan. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:03, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Category:Local autonomy in each country to Category:Local self-governance by country – C2E. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 19:31, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * New created tree, but I think this overlaps too much with Category:Local government. I.e. the target should become Category:Local government by country. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:03, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


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Category:People from the State of Palestine
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Category:Jim Gilmore

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 13:39, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting jim gilmore
 * Nominator's rationale: Small cat without potential for growth Mason (talk) 00:51, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Does not have enough articles and probably never will. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:24, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


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