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Category:People of the Arab world

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 13:25, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People of the Arab world to Category:Arab people
 * Nominator's rationale: There was no consensus to create this hierarchy at the recent Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 23. It was created by who was globally locked by Mykola7 for long-term abuse, see Special:CentralAuth/Puddefoot; their sock  which added to this category is now also blocked. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:03, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Merge or reverse merge? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 21:04, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I have just noticed that the creator apologised for creating the category without reference to the previous CFD here, but I don't think that provides ground for speedy reverting. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:11, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Too bad there was no consensus in the previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:05, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, this CFD provides another opportunity to make a case for it, if there is any scope to agree the use of this hierarchy after all. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:00, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Reverse merge, the nationality subcategories also contain non-Arabs so Category:Arab people is false advertising. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom, on purely procedural grounds that this category is a duplicate of the merge target. My support for this nomination should not be regarded as me accepting the legitimacy of mixing up nationalities and ethnicities. I still think nationalities do not belong in the ethnicity tree, and agree with Marcocapelle that it's too bad no consensus was reached on that point. I think we should not categorise millions of Iraqi Kurds etc. as "Arabs" just because most Iraqis are native speakers of Arabic, but until we revisit that question, I procedurally accept the status quo. NLeeuw (talk) 17:47, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Merge Reverse will not address the issue in hand. Dympies (talk) 05:25, 16 September 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Thirteenth Tsardom in fiction

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete (WP:G5). (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 13:26, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Thirteenth Tsardom in fiction to Category:Faraway Tsardom in fiction
 * Nominator's rationale: See above discussion on Category:Thirteenth Tsardom this is not the right translation of the title Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 17:17, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Thirteenth Tsardom

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 * The result of the discussion was: procedural close, a discussion about this category already started two days ago at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_September_12 (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 20:24, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Thirteenth Tsardom to Category:Faraway Tsardom
 * Nominator's rationale: Article is called Faraway Tsardom, Thirteenth Tsardom is a removed mistranslation. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 17:16, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Carnivals in Malta

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 13:26, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Carnivals in Malta to Category:Carnivals of Malta
 * Nominator's rationale: Both sharing the same subject, just a spelling difference. Fabe56 (talk) 14:31, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  21:20, 6 September 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 16:08, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose, all sibling categories use "in". Marcocapelle (talk) 21:16, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Upmerge for now to parent Category:Festivals in Malta with no prejudice against re-creation (NPAR). Category has only 1 item. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 07:06, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Marcocapelle Did you see this? I think you'll agree. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 07:07, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I think we should still discuss the "large established tree" issue. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:58, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: wasn't tagged. @Fabe56, I assume this was supposed to be a rename, not merge discussion, as Category:Carnivals of Malta doesn't exist and never has? C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 16:11, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Immigrant languages of the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. No prejudice against a rename discussion. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 13:27, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Immigrant languages of the United States to Category:Languages of the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: Not defining Mason (talk) 04:45, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose, it is defining for the subcategories and articles that are in this category. I am open to renaming, insofar the current category name is not clear enough about what it contains. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose Very clearly defining of the child categories. Also open to renaming if people belive there is a better alternative.★Trekker (talk) 11:47, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 * That's fair. I think that renaming would be *really* helpful as I'm struggling to succinctly articulate the category. Mason (talk) 13:08, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


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Category:American poetry in immigrant languages

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Unopposed. Undeletion can be requested at WP:REFUND. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 13:28, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:American poetry in immigrant languages to Category:American poetry
 * Nominator's rationale: Not defining Mason (talk) 04:44, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


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Category:American literature in immigrant languages
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 22%23Category:American literature in immigrant languages