Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 7

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Category:Suffrage categories

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 01:47, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Alabama suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Alabama
 * Propose renaming Category:Alaska suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Alaska
 * Propose renaming Category:Arizona suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Arizona
 * Propose renaming Category:Arkansas suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Arkansas
 * Propose renaming Category:California suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in California
 * Propose renaming Category:Connecticut suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Connecticut
 * Propose renaming Category:Colorado suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Colorado
 * Propose renaming Category:Delaware suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Delaware
 * Propose renaming Category:Florida suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Florida
 * Propose renaming Category:Georgia (U.S. state) suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Georgia (U.S. state)
 * Propose renaming Category:Hawaii suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Hawaii
 * Propose renaming Category:Illinois suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Illinois
 * Propose renaming Category:Iowa suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Iowa
 * Propose renaming Category:Kansas suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Kansas
 * Propose renaming Category:Kentucky suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Kentucky
 * Propose renaming Category:Maine suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Maine
 * Propose renaming Category:Maryland suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Maryland
 * Propose renaming Category:Massachusetts suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Minnesota suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Minnesota
 * Propose renaming Category:Missouri suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Missouri
 * Propose renaming Category:Montana suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Montana
 * Propose renaming Category:Nebraska suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Nebraska
 * Propose renaming Category:Nevada suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Nevada
 * Propose renaming Category:New Jersey suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in New Jersey
 * Propose renaming Category:New Mexico suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in New Mexico
 * Propose renaming Category:New York (state) suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in New York (state)
 * Propose renaming Category:North Dakota suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in North Dakota
 * Propose renaming Category:Ohio suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Ohio
 * Propose renaming Category:Oregon suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Oregon
 * Propose renaming Category:Pennsylvania suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Pennsylvania
 * Propose renaming Category:Rhode Island suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Rhode Island
 * Propose renaming Category:South Dakota suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in South Dakota
 * Propose renaming Category:Texas suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Texas
 * Propose renaming Category:Utah suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Utah
 * Propose renaming Category:Virginia suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Virginia
 * Propose renaming Category:Washington (state) suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Washington (state)
 * Propose renaming Category:West Virginia suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in West Virginia
 * Propose renaming Category:Wisconsin suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Wisconsin
 * Propose renaming Category:Wyoming suffrage to Category:Women's suffrage in Wyoming
 * Nominator's rationale: Unclear title. User:Namiba 23:33, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Rename to match parent Category:Women's suffrage in the United States and actual content. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 02:42, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename per WP:C2C, this could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:37, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename. Much clearer. Mason (talk) Mason (talk) 22:00, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename Agreed. This is much better and more specific. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:39, 11 September 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Members of the New York Manumission Society

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 * The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 01:47, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Members of the New York Manumission Society to Category:Abolitionists from New York City
 * Nominator's rationale: The New York Manumission Society was one of many similar organizations during the late eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. As such, being a member of it is non-defining. However, these figures were more broadly known for their abolitionism and should be merged into the city-based category which I recently created. User:Namiba 22:45, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Mild support, perhaps manually merge because being an abolitionist does not seem a defining characteristic for all articles in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:17, 8 September 2023 (UTC)


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Category:PSOTY members

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 01:52, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting psoty members
 * Propose deleting vision eternel members
 * Nominator's rationale: A category with only redirects to the same page is not useful. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 19:47, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Recent precedent at Categories for discussion/Log/2021 July 9 Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 19:55, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete, linking back to the same content does not aid navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:19, 8 September 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Paleface (Finnish musician)

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 17:23, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting paleface (finnish musician)
 * Nominator's rationale: A musician with only one related article besides the main one doesn't require a category per WP:OCEPON. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 19:44, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 8 September 2023 (UTC)


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Category:American people of Québécois descent
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 15%23Category:American people of Québécois descent

Category:Spring Baking Championship

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 01:53, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting spring baking championship
 * Propose deleting halloween baking championship
 * Nominator's rationale: Two eponymous small categories for interrelated television series without the volume of spinoff content necessary to warrant eponymous categories. Both of these consist solely of the eponym and an episode list, which is not enough, and even merging them together into one category on the basis of their interrelatedness would still only get the merged category up to four. Bearcat (talk) 20:09, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Procedural relist, the second category wasn't tagged. I've tagged it now. (@) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  18:02, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete for now, without prejudice to re-creation when more content is available. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Palace Entertainment

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  18:00, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Unopposed. Undeletion can be requested at WP:REFUND, here's a list of pages removed from the category. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 01:58, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Palace Entertainment to Category:Parques Reunidos
 * Nominator's rationale: Now that Palace Entertainment is merging into Parques Reunidos, we should also merge Category:Palace Entertainment into Category:Parques Reunidos. gidonb (talk) 23:54, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Recipients of the Medal "For Strengthening of Brotherhood in Arms" (Ministry of Defence of the Russia)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 15%23Category:Recipients of the Medal "For Strengthening of Brotherhood in Arms" (Ministry of Defence of the Russia)

Objects in museum collections
Relisted, see Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 15%23Objects in museum collections

Category:Celtic legendary creatures
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Category:Russian and Soviet military radars
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 16%23Category:Russian and Soviet military radars

Category:Russian and Soviet emigrants
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 17%23Category:Russian and Soviet emigrants

Category:Soviet and Russian fighter aircraft

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 * The result of the discussion was: split. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 02:07, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:Soviet and Russian fighter aircraft to Category:Soviet fighter aircraft and Category:Russian fighter aircraft
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:CATSPECIFIC and for consistency with related categories, categorisation at the level of individual states. Disambiguation, because the Soviet Union had 15 successor states, and it’s incorrect to imply that the Russian Federation is the only one that counts by maintaining categories that equate the RF and the USSR. Recommend moving Category:1990s Soviet and Russian fighter aircraft to both target categories because there was some overlap, and recommend moving Category:1910s Russian fighter aircraft along with Category:Soviet fighter aircraft, even though most were developed in and used by Tsarist Russia rather than Soviet Russia. NLeeuw (talk) 21:51, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  17:38, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * If kept, it should become a container category for the Soviet Union and for Russia. When split, a "see also" note should be added. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:39, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I could agree with the latter. NLeeuw (talk) 06:29, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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 * Split per nom. No reason why Russian and Soviet should be merged while Ukraine and Kazakhstan are separate -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 06:44, 11 September 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Soviet and Russian patrol aircraft
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Category:LX (TV network) affiliates
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 02:22, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:LX (TV network) affiliates to Category:NBC LX Home affiliates
 * Nominator's rationale: Speedy rename: Rebranding 2023 Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:31, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Rename per WP:C2D, this could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:58, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Deaths from obesity
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 02:22, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting deaths from obesity
 * Nominator's rationale: There's only one person in this category and it seems like the cause of death for said person is disputed. It also seems like death from obesity is much like death from old age, where that is not necessarily the direct cause of one's death, unlike something like heart failure, which is a specific thing that leads to death. Furthermore, it seems like the category could be ill-defined as there is not a precise definition as to if one's death was caused by obesity, as opposed to a more well-defined category that describes the precise medical cause of death. <b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>Torte 13:44, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete this along with Category:Death from obesity (the original name for this category before I moved it to a new page). Also nominate Category:Fictional characters with obesity for deletion too. AHI-3000 (talk) 20:02, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, too subjective. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:03, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Very common, and very unlikely to be a direct cause of death. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 02:41, 8 September 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Bernadotte af Wisborg
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 02:23, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting bernadotte af wisborg
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only two subcategories, and it is not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:27, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Support it's a Swedish surname (all 3 words together), created by an insignificant, private Swedish club, that a few members of the baronial Bernadotte family have used. It has no connection whatsoever to their legitimate government-decreed Luxembourg titles. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 17:33, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment This category has been prematurely emptied. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:48, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The category contained subcategories Category:Counts of Wisborg and Category:Countesses of Wisborg. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:30, 8 September 2023 (UTC)


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Category:Government of the Ghaznavid Empire
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Category:British pornographic film actors of Indian descent
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) C LYDE  TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 02:23, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting british pornographic film actors of indian descent
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:OCNARROW, WP:SMALLCAT, and WP:NONDEF at intersection of nationality, occupation, and ethnicity Mason (talk) 00:08, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment, by renaming to Category:British actors of Indian descent there will be more potential for growth. The question is mainly whether this is desirable as a triple intersection. If not, the better-populated sibling categories should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Good point. When I made the nomination, I was mostly focused on the lack of other pornographic actors, that also intersected. I'd support a rename to actors in general. (Arguably that would be bringing the category down from a 4x intersection. actors by type of acting by nationality by ethnicity) Mason (talk) 22:06, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... it looks like this is well trodden ground, where the consensus was that British people by ethnicity and occupation was 'WP:OCEGRS: triple intersection of occupation and nationality and descent is not defining' Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_April_20 Mason (talk) 22:10, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per precedent and the siblings should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:22, 11 September 2023 (UTC)


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