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Category:Lists by city in Maryland

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 23:42, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Lists by city in Maryland to Category:Lists by city in the United States and Category:Maryland-related lists
 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant narrow layer with one sub-category. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:50, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:39, 17 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:38, 17 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:High school wrestling in Pennsylvania

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 23:42, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:High school wrestling in Pennsylvania to Category:Wrestling in Pennsylvania
 * Nominator's rationale: No category scheme for high school wrestling. I am suggesting upmerge to the parent category the one article isn't already in. The subcategory Category:High school wrestlers from Pennsylvania has been nominated separately for renaming. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 23:44, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Just delete per my comment on the nominated sub-category. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per Aidan721. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep More than enough there and potentially to warrant a category. Keystone18 (talk) 21:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete both. SportingFlyer  T · C  19:20, 19 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:High school wrestlers from Pennsylvania

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 23:41, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:High school wrestlers from Pennsylvania to Category:Wrestlers from Pennsylvania
 * Nominator's rationale: There is no scheme for high school wrestlers as the sports played in high school are not particularly defining to the individual and what made those individuals notable. The renamed category should then be placed in Category:American wrestlers, Category:Sportspeople from Pennsylvania, and Category:Wrestling in Pennsylvania. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 23:35, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete. The ones I checked are already categorized under Category:American male professional wrestlers or Category:American male sport wrestlers. This is not a defining trait. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per Aidan721. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per Aidan. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:39, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep with either name. Delete is not a proper response to a renaming nomination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keystone18 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as an overcat, already categorized elsewhere. SportingFlyer  T · C  19:20, 19 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Orientalists by ethnicity

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 23:40, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Orientalists by ethnicity to Category:Orientalists
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category with only one category in it, is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 22:55, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 14:13, 20 February 2024 (UTC)


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Philadelphia street categories

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 23:43, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Chestnut Street to Category:Chestnut Street (Philadelphia)
 * Propose renaming Category:Front Street to Category:Front Street (Philadelphia)
 * Propose renaming Category:Walnut Street to Category:Walnut Street (Philadelphia)
 * Nominator's rationale: Ambiguous as there are multiple streets with these names that also have articles (and numerous others that don't): Chestnut Street, Front Street, and Walnut Street. Best to match the name of the category with the article name in such cases. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 22:50, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:42, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as is Absent some other street category with these names, there is no need or basis for renaming it. Keystone18 (talk) 21:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Have you bothered to look into Chestnut Street? Marcocapelle (talk) 19:14, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, I would never have commented if I hadn't. There are many Chestnut Streets, but only one Chestnut Street category, so there is zero basis for renaming it with any qualifiers at this point. If a category did emerge, then it would be a consideration. Keystone18 (talk) 16:35, 21 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom - disambiguation can occur even if there's not another category to specifically disambiguate against. SportingFlyer  T · C  19:21, 19 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:East German expatriates in Yugoslavia
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. No prejudice against nominating the targets for deletion. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:43, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:East German expatriates in Yugoslavia to Category:East German expatriates and Category:German expatriates in Yugoslavia
 * Propose merging Category:Republic of Venice expatriates in France to Category:Expatriates from the Republic of Venice and Category:Italian expatriates in France
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one person in this category, which isn't helpful for navigation. Dual merge, it is a small intersection that doesn't help navigation. In the same spirit as Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_May_7 Mason (talk) 22:45, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:37, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge to expatriates but delete German expatriates/Italian expatriates as inaccurate as East Germany and Venice were both nations at one point, though I haven't checked to see who is in there. SportingFlyer  T · C  20:21, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Both East and West Germany considered themselves as the rightful government of the undivided German nation, so I don't think it was a separate nation at any point. Re: Venice and the lone article for Antipope Alexander V, I think it is perfectly fine to consider him Italian. Despite being born in Venetian Crete, joining the Franciscans would indicate that he would belong to the Italian Catholic minority rather than the Greek Orthodox population. Also, before his election, he was most known for being bishop of several Italian sees and then archbishop of Milan. In fact I doubt that he belongs that much in an expatriate category, which I believe refers to his studies in Oxford and Paris. Place Clichy (talk) 14:27, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 14:27, 20 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Non-binary computer scientists
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Non-binary scientists. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:39, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Non-binary computer scientists to Category:Non-binary scientists
 * Propose merging Category:Non-binary archaeologists to Category:Non-binary scientists and Category:Non-binary scholars and academics
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's not enough content to diffuse by type of non-binary scientist. The only archaeologists in this category India Logan-Riley is already in Category:New Zealand archaeologists, similarly for computer science. I haven't formed an opinion on whether is is a defining intersection, and do not intend for my nomination to be interpreted as such Mason (talk) 21:37, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom, and there isn't even a Category:LGBT computer scientists and Category:LGBT computer archaeologists, probably because of WP:EGRS. However, only merge to Category:Non-binary scientists because Category:Non-binary scholars and academics is the parent category of the former. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:00, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:35, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Do not merge Because non-binary is only coming into the fore and being accepted in popular culture, the number of people identifying as such will increase and, therefore, so will the number of notable people.--David Tornheim (talk) 22:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * If the number of articles increases and if there is consensus that WP:EGRS does not apply we can easily recreate the categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:28, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I do agree that the level of acceptance is growing quickly (which is LOVELY). But, I think isolating non-binary scientists into very specific categories, makes them harder to find and appreciate. With this merge, these scientists will still be in a non-binary occupation category, just not one that this specific. Mason (talk) 22:50, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge the computer scinetists per nom. That is not a good category name, since they could be researchers into non-binary logic systems, such as balanced trinary, etc. -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 08:46, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. I'm not entirely sure that non-binary science is a topic, but I'm pretty sure that non-binary associated with these fields of science is not. This is one of those cases where WP:FINALRUNG applies. Place Clichy (talk) 14:31, 20 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional female businesspeople
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 24%23Category:Fictional female businesspeople

Category:Buildings and structures in Brokstedt
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:38, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting buildings and structures in brokstedt
 * Nominator's rationale: Buildings subcategory with a single entry, for a municipality of 2000 which does not have its own Location category, within a district which could have a Buildings subcategory but doesn't. Entirely out of sequence. Crowsus (talk) 19:36, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:10, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Recreation by city
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:44, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming category to Category:Recreation by populated place
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Sport by populated place
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Sports by sport and populated place
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Sport by country and populated place
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Sport by populated place and sport
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Sport-related lists by populated place
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Lists of sports venues by populated place
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Sports competitions by populated place
 * Propose renaming category to Category:International sports competitions by populated place
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Sports organizations by populated place
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Sports clubs and teams by populated place
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Sports venues by populated place
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Sports venues by country and populated place
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Tourist attractions by populated place
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Tourist attractions by country and populated place
 * Nominator's rationale: Per past precedents, rename to "by populated place" as categories include towns, cities, villages, etc. See: Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 2 –Aidan721 (talk) 16:02, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Rename per precedent, "populated place" is becoming the new norm. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:38, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose I honestly strongly disagree with this, populated place is far less descriptive than city, harder for non-native speakers to understand, and almost if not all of the subcatted terms would be cities anyways. Disagree enough to the point where we should reconsider the last discussion. SportingFlyer  T · C  19:02, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Note that it is not an entirely new phenomenon, e.g. here is a discussion from 2010. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:20, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That did make things more concise, which is the opposite of what we're doing here. This is a really bad change. SportingFlyer  T · C  23:12, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom and per precedent. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. @SportingFlyer I think PP is better because it really doesn't matter for these venues if the location is a city, town, or village. Mason (talk) 22:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That's a distinction without a difference. Populated place is a term used only by the US census, it's not used naturally in English, there are very few if any towns or villages in these categories, and we ourselves define city as "A city is a human settlement of a notable size." That is perfect for any article that would possibly be categorised in one of these categories. SportingFlyer  T · C  23:11, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * A sports venues, organization, or club is not defined by the size or political definition of its location. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:00, 17 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Sport in Aden
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 18:29, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Sport in Aden to Category:Aden
 * Nominator's rationale: Narrow intersection. Only 2 articles. Merge for now. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:36, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:40, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Sport in Cambodia by city
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 18:23, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Sport in Cambodia by city to Category:Sport in Cambodia and Category:Sport in Asia by city
 * Propose merging Category:Sport in Guatemala by city to Category:Sport in Guatemala and Category:Sport in Central America by city
 * Propose merging Category:Sport in Haiti by city to Category:Sport in Haiti and Category:Sport in the Caribbean by city
 * Propose merging Category:Sport in Tajikistan by city to Category:Sport in Tajikistan and Category:Sport in Asia by city
 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant narrow layer with only one sub-category. Upmerge for now. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:33, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:41, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Seasons in Martiniquan football
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 18:24, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging category to Category:2018 in Martinique and Category:2019 in Martinique
 * Propose merging category to Category:2019 in Martinique and Category:2020 in Martinique
 * Propose merging category to Category:2020 in Martinique and Category:2021 in Martinique
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:20, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
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 * Support all each category set only has 1 article or redirect, don't need this entire tree of small categories. Upmerge as proposed is sensible solution. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 15:55, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:43, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Seasons in Saint Kitts and Nevis football
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 18:24, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging category to Category:2013 in Saint Kitts and Nevis and Category:2014 in Saint Kitts and Nevis
 * Propose merging category to Category:2014 in Saint Kitts and Nevis and Category:2015 in Saint Kitts and Nevis
 * Propose merging category to Category:2015 in Saint Kitts and Nevis and Category:2016 in Saint Kitts and Nevis
 * Propose merging category to Category:2016 in Saint Kitts and Nevis and Category:2017 in Saint Kitts and Nevis
 * Propose merging category to Category:2017 in Saint Kitts and Nevis and Category:2018 in Saint Kitts and Nevis
 * Propose merging category to Category:2018 in Saint Kitts and Nevis and Category:2019 in Saint Kitts and Nevis
 * Propose deleting category
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:28, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
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 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:43, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:31, 20 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Greek Epithets
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 18:23, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Greek Epithets to Category:Greek epithets
 * Nominator's rationale: A case of WP:C2A. Clarityfiend (talk) 14:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Rename, this could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:45, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional spree killers
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge all. (non-admin closure)  Toadette  ( Let's discuss together! ) 07:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional spree killers to Category:Fictional mass murderers
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional female spree killers to Category:Fictional female mass murderers
 * Nominator's rationale: This was made by a disruptive user, and it is more of a defining topic in real life than it is in fiction, where it can often be treated as just a fact of that fictional universe - is Mario on a killing spree when he gets a combo off 3 Goombas? Goombella shows that they are sentient creatures, after all... Having this level of refinement about the crimes of fictional characters seems unnecessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose, I don't see what the issue here is, nobody's going to list the likes of Mario as a spree killer. AHI-3000 (talk) 21:03, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The point I was trying to make is that someone could likely do so and feel they were justified. Fictionally, one could interpret it any number of ways, making such a category problematically subjective compared to real life. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Well that's the thing about categories, AFAIK there's no official policy or rules requiring a source to justify adding a category to an article. Even if there is, just feel free to remove whatever you think is an incorrect category and explain why you think it doesn't fit, instead of suggesting that whole categories should be deleted over hypothetical scenarios of abuse and misuse. AHI-3000 (talk) 21:47, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The topic being WP:SUBJECTIVECAT is a reason though. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:25, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:CATV says that [i]t should be clear from verifiable information in the article why it was placed in each of its categories. <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 18:38, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * As someone who edits in this area a lot, the category divisions between "spree" and "mass" killers tend to be very very blurry even if it's not fictional. The way people tend to decide which goes in which category (I'm not talking about fictional here) seems honestly to be 100% arbitrary and the whole definitional dispute over these terms has been going on forever (though mass killer has the unfortunate affect of overlapping with people who ordered political, state killings, who also tend to be tagged as this) This has always bothered me but there's no clean way to deal with it, alas.
 * Anyway this is sort of a microcosm of that issue, so I can't really vote. PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:31, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Like for example, mass killer used to mean serial killer and spree killer was basically used for what is now a mass killer, but then spree killer basically started to mean "mass killer who did it at multiple locations" and there's a handful of weird edge cases like Andrew Cunanan who are technically serial killers but often called spree killers. It is a mess. PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:32, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * At least merge Category:Fictional female spree killers to Category:Fictional spree killers, trivial intersection with gender. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:33, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge Both Spree murders are unusual in real life; in fiction it would be how close the pages are together between murders? Categorizing by exact type of mass murder lends itself to WP:SNYTH and this feels like WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:25, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The problem is, that's also true for the non-fictional categories relating to this, so... PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:39, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * What do you think about this? AHI-3000 (talk) 01:09, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose Not a subjective category if there are sources using the term. Dimadick (talk) 06:55, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * The fact that sources use the term does not mean a lot in a discussion about subjectivity. What matters is if sources agree on the meaning of the term. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:27, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Again, that also applies to the non fictional categories. If this cat is deleted all of the spree killer ones should also be merged to the mass killer categories, because these terms have an extremely marginal difference and are often used interchangeably. PARAKANYAA (talk) 13:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * By all means also nominate Category:Spree killers and its subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:03, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge now that I have also CfD'd the non-fictional spree killer categories. The distinction between mass and spree is too subjective and obscure to be defining. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:16, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge as nominated: "Objective" does not mean "documented in reliable sources". <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 18:38, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Female mass murderers
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Category:LGBT people by nationality and identity
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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete/merge WP:G4.  Thank you for doing the donkey work. – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:31, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting
 * lgbt people by nationality and identity
 * lgbt people by identity and nationality
 * Propose merging
 * Category:Czech LGBT people by identity to Category:Czech LGBT people
 * Category:Greek LGBT people by identity to Category:Greek LGBT people
 * Category:Icelandic LGBT people by identity to Category:Icelandic LGBT people
 * Category:Indonesian LGBT people by identity to Category:Indonesian LGBT people
 * Category:Pakistani LGBT people by identity to Category:Pakistani LGBT people
 * Category:Serbian LGBT people by identity to Category:Serbian LGBT people
 * Category:Slovak LGBT people by identity to Category:Slovak LGBT people
 * Category:Thai LGBT people by identity to Category:Thai LGBT people
 * Category:Trinidad and Tobago LGBT people by identity to Category:Trinidad and Tobago LGBT people
 * Nominator's rationale: Per previous discussions and per WP:G4. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:48, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Fayenatic london, these were the ones I missed added for merging/deletion in the previous discussion. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:54, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Full disclosure, I already added all the Category:LGBT people by identity and nationality to the parent category and added keys Mason (talk) 14:56, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


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Burmese people by ethnicity
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 18:27, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Burmese people of Chin descent to Category:Burmese Chin people
 * Propose renaming Category:Burmese people of Kachin descent‎ to Category:Burmese Kachin people
 * Propose renaming Category:Burmese people of Karen descent‎ to Category:Burmese Karen people
 * Propose renaming Category:Burmese people of Mon descent to Category:Burmese Mon people
 * Propose renaming Category:Burmese people of Rakhine descent to Category:Burmese Rakhine people
 * Propose renaming Category:Burmese people of Shan descent to Category:Burmese Shan people
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, these are categories by ethnicity, not for descendants of emigrants. I am not sure if "Burmese" in the name is absolutely necessary in all these cases, or whether it can simply be assumed without mentioning, but it does not hurt to mention it. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:07, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:34, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Agreed per nom. I would suggest Category:Burmese Arakanese people rather than Rakhine to be consistent with the use of Karen vs. Kayin but i'm not sure what's WP:CONSISTENT.  EmeraldRange  (talk/contribs) 12:07, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * From what I understand from the article, "Arakanese" is outdated. But yeah, so is "Burmese". So I have no objection to one or the other. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:57, 17 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Families of Mon ancestry
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 18:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting families of mon ancestry
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. There is no need to merge because the subcategory will stay in the tree of Category:Mon people anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:18, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 20:39, 19 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Note that if I'm not mistaken will need to be deleted too as a result. Place Clichy (talk) 14:35, 20 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Andorran women's football biography stubs
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Andorran football biography stubs. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 18:30, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting andorran women's football biography stubs
 * Nominator's rationale: stub category with fewer than 30 articles with no subcategories; should be deleted with the templates upmerged into parent stub categories. Per WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub type sizes and WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals. Please see Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 11 Joeykai (talk) 05:55, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Andorran football biography stubs per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:43, 17 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Assassinated journalists
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Category:Fictional parasite characters
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 23%23Category:Fictional parasite characters

Category:Vestri (football club) players
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 18:29, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Vestri (football club) players to Category:Vestri men's football players
 * Nominator's rationale: Per Vestri men's football. Not a C2D as the article was recently renamed without discussion. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:58, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Support seems clearer name. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 10:19, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose First, the article was split, not moved. It is just one of the teams of an club, the other being the female team. Secondly, there are not enough notable people from the women and men teams of the club to merit one category for each. Better to keep them together.--Snævar (talk) 12:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * There are currently 36 people listed in the category, so far as I can see, no women. Thus a move to include men's is sensible, and if there are enough notable women in the future, then women's category can be created separately. 36 men is enough to split by gender, and there was consensus at WT:FOOTY last year to split footballer categories by gender too. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 16:51, 21 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 19:09, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per C2D. GiantSnowman 19:10, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


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Equestrian before 1900
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to "YYYY in sports" (and "YYY0s in sports" for the decade categories) (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl  talk  17:02, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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 * Nominator's rationale: These contain only "YYYY in horse racing", and are therefore redundant. (Category:1900 in equestrian is the first with more than one member, so I'm ending there, and it's also a natural boundary). If kept, speedy rename to "YYYY in equestrian sports" per Category:Equestrian sports * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:38, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Support, redundant category layer with only one subcategory each - but shouldn't they be merged to their Sports parent? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Upmerge all to the appropriate x in sports parent categories. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 12:20, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Upmerge all per Joseph2302. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:48, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose I don't think these are necessarily redundant, just that the decade container category isn't appropriate here - perhaps an upmerge to 19th century in equestrian sports would be more appropriate? SportingFlyer  T · C  21:34, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * It is precisely redundant. There two centuries of categories that contain horse racing categories. Upmerging is futile because of Category:19th century in horse racing. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:57, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Upmerge the individual year categories, but just delete the decade categories (as the YYYY in sports categories are already in the decade categories). <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 20:06, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Upmerging the decade categories just moves YYY0s in horse racing to YYY0s in sports. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:49, 25 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Nobles of Spain of the 17th century
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 02:41, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Nobles of Spain of the 17th century to Category:17th-century Spanish nobility
 * Propose merging Category:Spanish women of the 17th century to Category:17th-century Spanish women
 * Nominator's rationale: overlapping category. (I didn't want to do speedy, because these categories are newly created by a user who doesn't yet understand how categories work) Mason (talk) 01:06, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom, they are clearly duplicates. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:18, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


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