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Category:Japanese diaspora in Latin America

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl  talk  11:58, 3 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose splitting Category:Japanese diaspora in Latin America to Category:Asian diaspora in Latin America and Category:Japanese diaspora in South America
 * Nominator's rationale: At present it is not helpful for navigation with only one page in it. Upmerge for now Mason (talk) 22:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:51, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Court painters of the Kingdom of Sardinia

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 * The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:Court painters and Category:People from the Kingdom of Sardinia. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 23:30, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Court painters of the Kingdom of Sardinia to Category:People from the Kingdom of Sardinia
 * Nominator's rationale: Only person in here isn't mentioned as being a "Court painter", if kept, I think the category should be renamed to painters from the Kingdom of Sardinia Mason (talk) 21:41, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Dual merge, also to Category:Court painters. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:10, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Dual merge per Mc. But I wonder if a wider change is needed, as he, like most notable Category:People from the Kingdom of Sardinia (that's Kingdom of Sardinia (1720–1861)) very likely never set foot in the island of Sardinia, & it is rather misleading to suggest they did. We don't need "painters from the Kingdom of Sardinia", as the well-populated Category:Painters from Piedmont does the job very well. Johnbod (talk) 03:25, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Ancient art on Alexander the Great

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Alexander the Great in art. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 23:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient art on Alexander the Great to Category:Art depicting Alexander the Great
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename to march the style of Art depicting people. I've broadened the category to not focus on the era of creation of the art, but I don't feel strongly about it. Mason (talk) 21:36, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great which is approximately synonymous with the proposed name of the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * "Art" in categories like this means "visual arts", not "arts"/"culture" more broadly, so they're not synonymous. Ham II (talk) 16:29, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename as nom, don't merge' Why merge? Other very relevant categories will no longer fit. Big enough now, & capable of some expansion. Johnbod (talk) 16:10, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Move to Category:Alexander the Great in art. I don't think the category should be in both Category:Art depicting people and Category:Men in art, only the latter. Below "Men in art", the categories for individuals in art follow this style: Category:Abraham Lincoln in art, Category:Jesus in art, Category:George Washington in art and various saints. Ham II (talk) 16:29, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Also fine with that. Johnbod (talk) 18:29, 25 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Move to Category:Alexander the Great in art per Ham II's suggestion. This could include several modern statues, and paintings from various eras. Dimadick (talk) 18:20, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Australian indigenous rights activists
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Category:Armoured cars of the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 23:32, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Armoured cars of the United States to Category:Armored cars of the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: MOS:TIES. The United States produces armored cars, not armoured ones. None of the pages in the category use the British spelling. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:54, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Rename, aligning with the article titles in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:08, 25 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional female businesspeople

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional businesspeople. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  11:59, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Fictional female businesspeople to Category:Fictional businesswomen
 * Nominator's rationale: Last time, this discussion ended without a clear consensus. I still think that this proposed new page name would be both shorter and also consistent with its real-life counterpart Category:Businesswomen.
 * Also, to address the bizarre semantic argument that "women = female humans"; while that might be true for real life, in the realm of speculative fiction being a "man" or "woman" doesn't necessarily mean that you're human; non-human humanoid characters are often treated as "people" like humans are. Fictional women can be female aliens, angels, demons, fairies, goddesses, monsters, vampires, etc. AHI-3000 (talk) 04:56, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Given the category was only tagged yesterday, relisting. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 19:58, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose, the proposed rename conflicts with most siblings in Category:Women by occupation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:25, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Did you just copy and paste this exact same sentence without double-checking? Category:Fictional female businesspeople is not a subcategory of Category:Women by occupation. Besides, the real-life counterpart is named Category:Businesswomen, not Category:Female businesspeople. AHI-3000 (talk) 16:42, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment, the category page has not been tagged. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:41, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I've tagged it. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 30 (which I would probably have closed as merge), in which the lack of definingness of gender has gone unrefuted. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * So long as there's Category:Businesswomen, I don't see why there can't be a fictional counterpart to that category. AHI-3000 (talk) 01:16, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  20:49, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Fictional businesspeople per WP:EGRS, or else rename per nom to align with Category:Businesswomen. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:08, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * What do you lean more on? If Category:Businesswomen can exist on its own, I don't see why the same isn't true for its fictional counterpart. AHI-3000 (talk) 22:50, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I am leaning more on what I bolded. I don't think we should categorize characters by intersection of occupation and gender at all (not just businesswomen). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:19, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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 * Merge to Category:Fictional businesspeople. There does not have to be a fictional gendered counterpart to every real-life gendered category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:06, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Fictional businesspeople. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:34, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. To match the suggested parent category. Dimadick (talk) 18:22, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Fictional businesspeople per Zxcvbnm. <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:38, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Assassinated journalists
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 3%23Category:Assassinated journalists

Category:Z Holdings
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 3%23Category:Z Holdings

Category:Scachs d'amor
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:33, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting scachs d'amor
 * Nominator's rationale: this category is unhelpful for navigation. It contains only the poem AND the people who wrote the poem Mason (talk) 19:46, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete, the articles are already interlinked directly. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:31, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete This is not an epic poem with a large cast of characters, or a source of numerous adaptations. How are we supposed to expand the category?Dimadick (talk) 18:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Kings of the Neo-Elamite Period
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:33, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Kings of the Neo-Elamite Period to Category:Elamite kings
 * Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation. There's no Category:Neo-Elamite Period category. Mason (talk) 19:44, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. There isn't even a Neo-Elamite period article. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:33, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Vaguely-defined. Dimadick (talk) 18:33, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Religious concepts related with Adam and Eve
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:33, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Religious concepts related with Adam and Eve to Category:Adam and Eve
 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining and unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 19:34, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom, and the category's name isn't idiomatic. Ham II (talk) 21:18, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge, unclear distinction versus its parent category. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:36, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. I fail to see how is this distinct from its parent category. Dimadick (talk) 18:34, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:New Testament apocrypha related with Adam and Eve
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. No prejudice against nominating any of the merge targets for renaming. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:New Testament apocrypha related with Adam and Eve to Category:Apocrypha related with Adam and Eve and Category:New Testament apocrypha
 * Propose merging Category:Old Testament apocrypha related with Adam and Eve to Category:Apocrypha related with Adam and Eve and Category:Old Testament apocrypha
 * Propose merging Category:Old Testament pseudepigrapha related with Adam and Eve to Category:Old Testament pseudepigrapha and Category:Apocrypha related with Adam and Eve
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. Overcategorization, there's really no need for this much diffusion. Mason (talk) 19:30, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge, but also move Category:Apocrypha related with Adam and Eve to something more idiomatic – possibly Category:Apocrypha relating to Adam and Eve. Ham II (talk) 21:15, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge, only 8 articles in the three categories together. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:48, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom Small categories with little to no scope for expansion. Dimadick (talk) 18:36, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:University of Melbourne alumni sportspeople
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:35, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:University of Melbourne alumni sportspeople to Category:University of Melbourne alumni
 * Propose merging Category:University of Melbourne alumni politicians to Category:University of Melbourne alumni
 * Propose merging Category:University of Melbourne alumni doctors to Category:University of Melbourne alumni
 * Propose deleting university of melbourne alumni by occupation
 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection Mason (talk) 19:23, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete all. Certainly the doctor one is redundant to Category:Melbourne Medical School alumni. StAnselm (talk) 21:49, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I recommend merge not delete, as many of these people aren't in the parent category. Category:University of Melbourne alumni doctors includes undergraduates who earned their medical degrees elsewhere, so we shouldn't merge to Category:Melbourne Medical School alumni. Mason (talk) 00:25, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom Their careers are irrelevant to their status as alumni. Dimadick (talk) 18:37, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Executed journalists
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:35, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Executed journalists to Category:Executed writers
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one person in it. (Please populate categories with more than one person.) Mason (talk) 19:18, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep I have added 15 people to the category, and I am sure many more can be found. No Swan So Fine (talk) 22:32, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep for the reasons cited above AHI-3000 (talk) 04:44, 25 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep now that the cat is populated -- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:53, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Plenty of scope for expansion, thanks to the lack of freedom of the press throughout much of recent history. Dimadick (talk) 18:39, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Now that the category has been populated, the rationale for deletion doesn't even apply anymore, not that I think it was legit in the first place. Anyways, we should have this closed as a solidly unanimous "Keep" vote. AHI-3000 (talk) 22:56, 27 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:University of Melbourne women
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 * The result of the discussion was: manually merge where applicable. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  12:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting university of melbourne women
 * Nominator's rationale: Not a notable intersection - as far as I can tell, there is no other university for which we have an "X University women" category. StAnselm (talk) 17:25, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support in principle, but we should check to confirm that folks are all in University of Melbourne people categories. Mason (talk) 21:58, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * They should be - either as alumni or staff. I clicked on Gillian Armstrong somewhat randomly, and she wasn't in any other University of Melbourne category, but in fact there was nothing in the article supporting a connection with the university. StAnselm (talk) 22:17, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete for consistency. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:52, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep I created this category - it was part of an event where women wiki editors got together and wrote articles about significant women to address the gender imbalance, as there are a lot more articles about men and than women on Wikipedia...so it would be poetic if male editors removed it! The category highlights those women from Melb uni who have gone on to achieve things. I think being a woman is notable, in the context of gender studies and history. Deathlibrarian (talk) 00:07, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: I think it is worth pointing out that I am a female wikipedian. @Deathlibrarian, if you're going to point out gender imbalances, it's good to not make assumptions. I think that this category does not meet the criteria for defining under EGRS. It may be interesting for a list, but this is not how categories work. Mason (talk) 00:30, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I do appreciate that information, but gender of the *nominator* aside, about 90% of Wiki editors are in fact men (including me), so it's likely it will be men voting to remove it... which is my point. However, if it's strictly against the rules for establishing categories, so be it. Personally I think it's a positive, helpful category that can help the user.Deathlibrarian (talk) 00:57, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * This need a manual merger. It is not clear whether the category covers staff members, alumni, patrons of the university, etc. Dimadick (talk) 18:43, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Jewellery collectors
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 17:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting jewellery collectors
 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. Most of these people are just wealthy art collectors Mason (talk) 16:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep The nom is not even correct - some are also collectors of other art, but most aren't (Ellen Barkin, Wallis Simpson etc). Shouldn't you be proposing a merge if that were true anyway? Most are not categorized as art collectors. But keep anyway. It's a distinct thing. Obviously money is needed. Johnbod (talk) 19:55, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * (when I updated the nom to state that most were just wealth, I accidentally overwrote the above nom). My point still stands that these people are defined by their jewelry collecting. I added all the art collectors to their respective FOO art collectors, so there was no need to merge.Mason (talk) 21:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That "that these people are defined by their jewelry collecting" (Wallis Simpson?) rather contradicts your nom rationale, no? Johnbod (talk) 15:58, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing out my typo. What I meant (and hope was clear from context) was that these people are NOT defined by their jewelry collecting.Mason (talk) 17:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep I created this category to collate people who had devoted their lives to amassing significant collections of jewellery. Being wealthy is a prerequisite. No Swan So Fine (talk) 22:12, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, trivial characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:55, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep I think an interesting cateogory, of note to those who are studying the field. Deathlibrarian (talk) 00:09, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Provided that the articles cover the topic, this could be a useful category. Dimadick (talk) 18:45, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Quotation collectors
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Compilers of works of quotations. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 17:25, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting quotation collectors
 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining Mason (talk) 16:16, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep, but rename to "Compilers of works of quotations" It is pretty much all Athenaeus, Diogenes Laertius, Myro of Rhodes and Quote Investigator are known for, and the entire source of their notability. Others could no doubt be added. Johnbod (talk) 20:02, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename per Johnbod, clearer name for what it is intended for. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:58, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename per Johnbod. These are not collectors, they just wrote books and reference works about quotations. Dimadick (talk) 18:50, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Irish Queen's Counsel
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:36, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Irish Queen's Counsel to Category:Irish King's Counsel
 * Nominator's rationale: C2C NSH001 (talk) 15:18, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't this be redirected, instead? Mason (talk) 16:15, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * No - see the head cat. Many in fact only were KC; we just move the whole tree when QCs become KCs, very sensibly. Johnbod (talk) 20:09, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom, as we did in 2022 with the main cat, where the note says: "The category King's Counsel is for barristers appointed Queen's or King's Counsel (QC or KC), and other individuals appointed QC or KC honoris causa,...". This lot were just forgotten. Johnbod (talk) 20:11, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * comment. I only came here because I wanted to add the KC cat to Blinne Ní Ghrálaigh. However, looking at the header cat, there are another 18 subcats like this that should probably also be nominated (plus there were some really silly subcats which I've now removed). --NSH001 (talk) 14:00, 25 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Works by date
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 2%23Category:Works by date

Category:Kings of the Kingdom of Ireland
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 17:24, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting kings of the kingdom of ireland
 * Nominator's rationale: I've never seen any source categorize English monarchs this way. They are all already in Category:16th-century Irish monarchs or Category:17th-century Irish monarchs, etc. Some of them are queens not kings. Over-categorization. DrKay (talk) 11:28, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment The Kingdom of Ireland (1542-1800) covers all Irish monarchs from Henry VIII to George III. But these monarchs were not all male. If I am counting correctly: 11 kings, and 5 Queens regnant. For a list, see List of monarchs of Ireland. Dimadick (talk) 12:02, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Yup - even Lady Jane Grey is in there. Johnbod (talk) 20:24, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete It's redundant and simply not comprehensive (there were multiple female monarchs at different points, as it was pointed out). We already have categories that cover Irish monarchs without alluding to their genders (already linked above by the nominator). Format wise it's also inconsistent (note that we don't have Category:Kings of the Kingdom of England, Category, Category:Kings of the Kingdom of Scotland, Category:Kings of the Kingdom of Sweden, etc.; and we don't need to have them when comprehensive categories covering all the respective monarchs exist). Keivan.f  Talk 17:00, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Johnbod (talk) 20:24, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, entirely overlaps with English/British monarchs in the same period. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:00, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete They are all also English monarchs, so this is likely a fork. Векочел (talk) 15:07, 27 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Indian Prime Minister speeches
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 * Propose deleting indian prime minister speeches
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. The subcategory is already in Category:Speeches by politicians so a merge is not needed. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:08, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom Mason (talk) 00:23, 25 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Speeches in the Parliament of South Africa
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 * Propose deleting speeches in the parliament of south africa
 * Propose deleting speeches by african national congress politicians
 * Propose deleting speeches by national party (south africa) politicians
 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OVERLAPCAT, all articles are already in Category:South Africa presidential speeches. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * support per nom Mason (talk) 16:14, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:20th-century Dutch anatomists
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 * Propose merging Category:20th-century Dutch anatomists to Category:20th-century Dutch scientists and Category:Dutch anatomists
 * Propose merging Category:19th-century Dutch anatomists to Category:19th-century Dutch scientists and Category:Dutch anatomists
 * Propose merging Category:18th-century Dutch anatomists to Category:18th-century Dutch scientists and Category:Dutch anatomists
 * Propose merging Category:17th-century Dutch anatomists to Category:17th-century Dutch scientists and Category:Dutch anatomists
 * Propose splitting Category:16th-century Dutch anatomists to Category:16th-century Dutch scientists and Category:Dutch anatomists
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to diffuse anatomists by nationality and century. If kept, then I think we should rename the categories to X-century anatomists Mason (talk) 04:13, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep, these categories are reasonably well populated and I do not see another reason why merging would be beneficial. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:15, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Who says that there is no need? Dimadick (talk) 12:04, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment. I've created parent categories and you all are right that clearly there's benefit for diffusion by century. FOOth-century anatomists Mason (talk) 21:59, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:16th-century German chemists
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 * Propose merging Category:16th-century German chemists to Category:16th-century German scientists and Category:16th-century chemists
 * Propose merging Category:17th-century Dutch chemists to Category:17th-century Dutch scientists and Category:17th-century chemists
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in each category, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 04:07, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. I think that Paul Luther was a pharmacist rather than a chemist. It is difficult to put modern labels on people of this period anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment "physician, medical chemist, and alchemist." He sounds like an apothecary to me, since he created his own drugs. Dimadick (talk) 18:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Vietnamese-language newspapers published in Texas
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 * Propose merging Category:Vietnamese-language newspapers published in Texas to Category:Vietnamese-language newspapers published in the United States and Category:Non-English-language newspapers published in Texas
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one newspaper in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 04:03, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support: I think there used to be a few more articles in this category, but since that's no longer the case, merging seems reasonable to me. The lone remaining article has already just been added to one parent category, Category:Vietnamese-language media in Texas. Minh Nguyễn &#x1f4ac; 04:26, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:22, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Yale Bulldogs rugby
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 * Propose merging Category:Yale Bulldogs rugby to Category:Yale Bulldogs
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one page in category. Let&#39;srun (talk) 04:00, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * shouldn't it also be merged to the other parent categories? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge Per nom. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 11:42, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Rollins Tars baseball seasons
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 * Propose merging Category:Rollins Tars baseball seasons to Category:Rollins Tars baseball
 * Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Upmerge to Rollins Tars baseball. Let&#39;srun (talk) 03:21, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:25, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:History of medicine in Iran
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 * Propose merging Category:History of medicine in Iran to Category:History of medicine
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one page in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 02:14, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Just delete, the article is already in the tree of Category:History of medicine. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Flint (rock)
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Category:Internet Archive collectors
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 * Propose renaming Category:Internet Archive collectors to Category:Internet Archive people
 * Nominator's rationale: Based on the contents, there are all people connected with the internet archive. They're not really collectors... Mason (talk) 00:14, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I'd take it broader to Category:Digital archivists since Rick Prelinger is mainly known for Prelinger Archives. The last article should be purged. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That sounds reasonable to me Mason (talk) 16:13, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Collectors of Shaker artifacts
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 * Propose merging Category:Collectors of Shaker artifacts to Category:Shaker scholars
 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining (and small category). The two people in here, are both currators, hence the merge target Mason (talk) 00:12, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:43, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Handbag collectors
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 * Propose deleting handbag collectors
 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category for any of the three people in here. Mason (talk) 00:11, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NONDEF. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:45, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete I can see the need for a category which covers people who collect fashion items and related works, but these people are not known for their collections. Dimadick (talk) 18:59, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Electrosurgery
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 * Propose merging Category:Electrosurgery to Category:Dermatologic surgery
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only two pages in here, the technique and the guy who invented the technique. Mason (talk) 00:08, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Just delete, it is not specifically applied in dermatology and the main article is already in Category:Surgery. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:50, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional pediatric surgeons
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 * Propose splitting Category:Fictional pediatric surgeons to Category:Fictional pediatricians and Category:Fictional surgeons
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. There's only one page in here, which is really not enough to support a category at the intersection of two specializations. Mason (talk) 00:02, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Support NARROWCAT made by a disruptive user. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:24, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:51, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional cardiothoracic surgeons
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Fictional cardiac surgeons. No prejudice against speedy renomination for merging. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 17:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Fictional cardiothoracic surgeons to Category:Fictional cardiac surgeons
 * Nominator's rationale: Category:cardiothoracic surgeons doesn't exist as a category. And for the most part, these fictional surgeons are thought of a heart surgeons. I'm also ok with just merging to fictional surgeons. Mason (talk) 00:01, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Fictional surgeons, this level of specificity is not necessary outside of real life. In fiction, it's less important what type of surgeon they are. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:25, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. We do not need to upmerge the category per se, since these are characters of hospital drama series (but I am also not strongly against merging). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment Cardiothoracic surgery is the parent field for "cardiac surgery" and "thoracic surgery". With the exception of a few countries, most of the relevant surgeons "further sub-specialize" into treating specific types of diseases. Dimadick (talk) 19:20, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


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