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Category:NAIA College football coaches in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:18, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:NAIA College football coaches in the United States to Category:College football coaches in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: This is a recently created category that goes against the consensus of organizing college athletes/coaches. We don't need to diffuse by organization or division. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:24, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * See below nominations for other recently created categories. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:25, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. ~WikiOriginal-9~  ( talk ) 00:22, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom Mason (talk) 05:02, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Let&#39;srun (talk) 14:54, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:NCAA Division III College football coaches in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:College football coaches in the United States. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:18, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:NCAA Division III College football coaches in the United States to Category:NCAA Division III football coaches
 * Nominator's rationale: Is standard with the rest of the NCAA D-3 category names. – robertsky (talk) 22:59, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * This is a reopening of a misplaced RM discussion by @Thetreesarespeakingtome. This nomination is not a vote for or against of the proposed rename. – robertsky (talk) 23:02, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:College football coaches in the United States. This is a recently created category that goes against the consensus of organizing college athletes/coaches. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:23, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per Aidan721. ~WikiOriginal-9~  ( talk ) 00:21, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per Aidan721 Mason (talk) 05:02, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per Aidan721 Jweiss11 (talk) 00:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per Aiden721. Let&#39;srun (talk) 14:54, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:NCAA Division II College football coaches in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:College football coaches in the United States. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:17, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:NCAA Division II College football coaches in the United States to Category:NCAA Division II football coaches
 * Nominator's rationale: Is standard with the rest of the NCAA D-2 category names. – robertsky (talk) 22:54, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * This is a reopening of a misplaced RM discussion by @Thetreesarespeakingtome. This nomination is not a vote for or against of the proposed rename. – robertsky (talk) 22:58, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:College football coaches in the United States. This is a recently created category that goes against the consensus of organizing college athletes/coaches. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:23, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per Aidan721. ~WikiOriginal-9~  ( talk ) 00:21, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per Aidan721 Mason (talk) 05:02, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per Aidan721 Jweiss11 (talk) 00:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per Aidan721. Let&#39;srun (talk) 14:55, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Portrayals of the Virgin Mary in film

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Portrayals of Mary, mother of Jesus, in film. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  12:38, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Portrayals of the Virgin Mary in film to Category:Portrayals of Mary, mother of Jesus in film
 * Nominator's rationale: Option A: rename aligning with article title Mary, mother of Jesus. Option B: delete per WP:NONDEF, the films in the category are largely about Jesus rather than about Mary. In that case, move the two subcategories to Category:Cultural depictions of Mary, mother of Jesus. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:48, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom The main article is not "Virgin Mary". Dimadick (talk) 16:08, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: "Portrayals of Mary, mother of Jesus, in film" would follow MOS:COMMA. As "mother of Jesus" is a parenthetical phrase, how necessary is it for the category name – could it be "Portrayals of Mary in film"? Ham II (talk) 16:46, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with an extra comma. Just Mary sounds too ambiguous though. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Alt Rename per WP:C2D but with the extra comma, "Portrayals of Mary, mother of Jesus, in film". - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:23, 10 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Female bisexuality in film

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:17, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Female bisexuality in film to Category:Films about female bisexuality
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, this is a set category containing films, rather than a topic category with articles about how female bisexuality is depicted. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:57, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Let&#39;srun (talk) 15:08, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Libraries by year of establishment
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 * What exactly is the current suggestion? DGtal (talk) 15:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Depictions of Cleopatra on film

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:17, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Depictions of Cleopatra on film to Category:Films about Cleopatra
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, this is a set category with films, rather than a topic category with articles about depictions. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:26, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose for what seems like the obvious reason that not all depictions of Cleopatra in film are about Cleopatra. Looking over the contents in the category, as many as half of the entries are about other persons or subjects, with Cleopatra merely a character appearing in them.  Changing the name of the category as proposed would greatly narrow its scope.  I see no reason why only films that are actually about Cleopatra are relevant to how she's portrayed; if incidental depictions vary from how she's portrayed in biographical pictures, that's perfectly relevant to her depiction in general.  The case could—and probably should—be made that "in" film is a better description for motion pictures and television, as opposed to still photos.  P Aculeius (talk) 13:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Inasfar as it concerns incidental depictions, purging is required, per WP:NONDEF. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:27, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose per Aculeius's objection. And I see no reason to purge the depictions. Dimadick (talk) 16:09, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose. There can be notable depictions of Cleopatra in films that are not about Cleopatra. Legions of the Nile is an example. Place Clichy (talk) 19:15, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Completely agree with the comments above. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:06, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:UC San Diego Tritons men's soccer coaches
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:16, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose splitting Category:UC San Diego Tritons men's soccer coaches to Category:UC San Diego Tritons men's soccer and Category:UC San Diego Tritons coaches and Category:College men's soccer coaches in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 21:23, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Triple merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:49, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Split per nom. Let&#39;srun (talk) 15:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Barney & Friends
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl  talk  12:39, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Barney & Friends to Category:Barney (franchise)
 * Propose renaming Category:Barney & Friends character redirects to lists to Category:Barney (franchise) character redirects to lists
 * Propose renaming Category:Barney & Friends episode redirects to lists to Category:Barney (franchise) episode redirects to lists
 * Nominator's rationale: Barney & Friends is actually a television show within the Barney franchise. One-Winged Devil (talk) 21:18, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose rename as proposed. Barney as a category name is too ambiguous to be helpful. Mason (talk) 21:24, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * How about "Barney (franchise)"? Would that be a more helpful idea? One-Winged Devil (talk) 21:32, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Support The franchise is not limited to a single television series. Dimadick (talk) 21:46, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * do you have an opinion on the updated target?<span id="HouseBlaster:1707611332542:WikipediaFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_3" class="FTTCmt"> <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:28, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Updated target is fine with me Mason (talk) 00:39, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Bolivian writers by genre
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:16, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging to Category:Bolivian writers
 * Propose merging to Category:South African writers
 * Propose merging to Category:Yemeni writers
 * Propose merging to Category:Tunisian writers
 * Propose merging to Category:Tajikistani writers
 * Propose merging to Category:Kuwaiti writers
 * Propose merging to Category:Afghan writers
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here. Mason (talk) 20:28, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:50, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Goldey College athletics
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:16, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Goldey College athletics to Category:Goldey–Beacom Lightning
 * Propose merging Category:Beacom College athletics to Category:Goldey–Beacom Lightning
 * Nominator's rationale: Unhelful for navigation. Plus there's not separate category for Category:Beacom College or Category:Goldey College (nor should their be). Mason (talk) 19:41, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Eh, I think its more neat this way, but I could live with a merge. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:05, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:52, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Let&#39;srun (talk) 22:42, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Beacom College football coaches
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge as per nom. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:04, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging  to Category:College football coaches in the United States  and Category:Goldey–Beacom Lightning coaches
 * Propose merging  to Category:College men's basketball coaches in the United States  and Category:Goldey–Beacom Lightning coaches
 * Propose merging to Category:College men's soccer coaches in the United States and Category:Goldey–Beacom Lightning coaches
 * Propose merging  to  Category:College baseball coaches in the United States and Category:Goldey–Beacom Lightning coaches
 * Nominator's rationale: all of these categories only have the same coach (John D. Naylor in them. Upmerge for now, until there are enough coaches to make this category useful Mason (talk) 19:36, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I can accept a merge to / creation of Category:Goldey–Beacom Lightning coaches, but I completely oppose merging them to the related U.S. coaches categories. They are container categories that have been well-maintained for years, and this would simply cause disorder to a long-standing organized page. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:56, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment I think these nominated categories have to be looked at individually. Like Category:College football coaches in the United States only contains subcategories but Category:College men's soccer coaches in the United States contains the articles on individual coaches. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 21:09, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Neither of the categories Liz mentioned are container categories. Moreover, college football coaches has a diffusion tag, not a container tag. It just so happens to be empty of pages, but it says very clearly: "Pages in this category should be moved to subcategories where applicable." Mason (talk) 21:27, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom, there is no reason for Category:College men's soccer coaches in the United States to be a container category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:55, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Let&#39;srun (talk) 15:10, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge all TO Category:Goldey–Beacom Lightning coaches; then dual-merge to Category:College men's soccer coaches in the United States; but DO NOT merge any others, especially the football one, as the others function as container cats and have been well-maintained for 15+ years. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:25, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge all per nom. The targets should not behave as container categories. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge All per nom. The lack of direct articles shows we have an issue akin to WP:OCMISC, not that these are de facto container categories. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:29, 10 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Human-derived fictional species
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Category:Films about women in Mexico
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:16, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Films about women in Mexico to Category:Films about social issues in Mexico
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, neither of the two subcategories are about women per se. They are about social issues though. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:08, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. And I agree that both categories (one about rape and the other about prostitution) are not exclusive to women. Mason (talk) 20:04, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:UC San Diego Tritons football coaches
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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge On merge targets, the sole article is already in Category:Junior college football coaches in the United States, which is a subcat of Category:College football coaches in the United States, so the dispute over whether to make that a container category is moot. The other two targets (Category:UC San Diego Tritons football and Category:UC San Diego Tritons football) are not strongly contested so I am going to merge to both. This doesn't bar any further edits to the categorization later if it is felt it doesn't belong there. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...  01:04, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:UC San Diego Tritons football coaches to Category:College football coaches in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: Only 1 page in category. Let&#39;srun (talk) 00:13, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support in principle, but also merge to UC San Diego Tritons coaches and Category:UC San Diego Tritons football. Mason (talk) 13:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  19:04, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Upmerge per Mason. –Aidan721 (talk) 04:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep as part of a well-sorted category Category:College football coaches in the United States.--User:Namiba 16:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Anything but merge to the container category (Coaches in the U.S.), an action which would make no sense and create disorder to a long-standing and well-organized category. Keep it, delete it, just don't merge it there. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:54, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The merge target isn't a container category. It's tagged with a diffusion tag. At the moment there are no pages in it, but that is because there are many of these tiny coach categories with only a single page. Those tiny categories aren't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 21:33, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The tag says "when applicable" they need to be in subcats, and all of these coaches (one in the case) coached for other teams as well. So there would be one single article in the otherwise well-organized category that has functioned as a container cat, whereas the other 10,000 (including the one at hand here) would be in subcats. That doesn't make sense. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:51, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom, there is no reason for Category:College men's soccer coaches in the United States to be a container category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That category is irrelevant here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:51, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I think @Marcocapelle was confusing it with Category:College football coaches in the United States, but the same rationale applies. Let&#39;srun (talk) 15:13, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete / Keep - but no merge, per above. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:51, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * What about a merge to Category:UC San Diego Tritons football? BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm open to a dual merge. Let&#39;srun (talk) 14:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose to dual merge per WP:SEPARATE. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:30, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Namiba. Jweiss11 (talk) 19:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge in Some Form Prefer Mason's triple merge but support whatever targets gain consensus. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:32, 10 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Judith in film
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:16, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Judith in film to Category:Films about Judith
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, this is a set category with films rather than a topic category discussing depictions. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:04, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom Mason (talk) 20:38, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Explorers of Georgia (country)
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Explorers of Iran. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:29, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:Explorers of Georgia (country) to Category:Explorers of the Caucasus and Category:Early Modern history of Georgia (country)
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual merge for now. There's only one page in here, which isn't helpful for navigaiton Mason (talk) 03:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Support in principle, per nom, and also because Georgia did not exist yet as a country. But rather take Category:Explorers of Iran as the merge target because the subject of the article travelled through Iran generally rather than just Georgia (which was ruled by Iran).  Marcocapelle (talk) 06:56, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Seems like a reasonable target to me. Mason (talk) 20:38, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Roman roads in Syria and Palestina
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Category:Kalmyk folklore
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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge as nominated. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:06, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging  to Category:Folklore of Russia and Category:Kalmyk people
 * Propose merging to Category:Culture of San Marino
 * Propose merging to Category:Sindhi culture and Category:Asian folk culture
 * Propose merging to Category:Mongolian culture
 * Propose merging to Category:Malagasy culture
 * Propose merging to Category:Seychellois folklore and Category:Legends
 * Propose merging to Category:Zimbabwean culture
 * Propose merging to Category:Mauritian culture
 * Propose merging to Category:Culture of Liberia
 * Propose merging to Category:Legends by country
 * Propose merging to Category:African mythology and Category:Wolof people
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category/page in each which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 13:15, 26 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose upmerging Mongolian folk culture and Sindhi folk culture, weak support for the others – The categories are part of the category tree for folk culture and removing them from there would be unhelpful for finding content within that category tree. Some of these categories are a bit specific, but the Mongolian category has much room for expansion, and both categories I opposed now contain two subcategories. Note: Category:Liberian folklore should also upmerge to Category:African folklore. MClay1 (talk) 03:19, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Speaking of the Mongolian category, why would Mongolian mythology specifically be part of Mongolian folk culture? Marcocapelle (talk) 10:04, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The liberian category should not be merged to African folklore, because the only category in it as Liberian folklorists, which is already properly categorized into Folklorists by nationality etc. Mason (talk) 20:07, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * Merge per nom. This is just overly redundant categorization which misleads readers as to what content they may find. Note that content appropriate content will still be in relevant categories, e.g. in folklore categories. Place Clichy (talk) 19:16, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Merge per nom, but taking Mason's comment about Category:Liberian folklore into account. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:01, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Women in Red edit-a-thons
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 * Propose renaming Category:Women in Red edit-a-thons to Category:WikiProject Women in Red by year
 * Propose renaming Category:Women in Red 2015 to Category:WikiProject Women in Red in 2015
 * Propose renaming Category:Women in Red 2016 to Category:WikiProject Women in Red in 2016
 * Propose renaming Category:Women in Red 2017 to Category:WikiProject Women in Red in 2017
 * Propose renaming Category:Women in Red 2018 to Category:WikiProject Women in Red in 2018
 * Propose renaming Category:Women in Red 2019 to Category:WikiProject Women in Red in 2019
 * Propose renaming Category:Women in Red 2020 to Category:WikiProject Women in Red in 2020
 * Propose renaming Category:Women in Red 2021 to Category:WikiProject Women in Red in 2021
 * Propose renaming Category:Women in Red 2022 to Category:WikiProject Women in Red in 2022
 * Propose renaming Category:Women in Red 2023 to Category:WikiProject Women in Red in 2023
 * Propose renaming Category:Women in Red 2024 to Category:WikiProject Women in Red in 2024
 * Propose renaming Category:Women in Red templates to Category:WikiProject Women in Red templates
 * Propose renaming Category:Women in Red headers to Category:WikiProject Women in Red headers
 * Nominator's rationale: Suggest prefacing these categories with "WikiProject" for consistency and to clarify that these are internal categories not content categories. Also inserted "in" for better grammar. Also changed "edit-a-thons" to a more general name "by year" because they are not all called edit-a-thons and thes categories are used to hold other pages like metrics &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:16, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Added a couple more to the list &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:20, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Makes sense &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 01:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Support Really per WP:C2C, consistency with established category tree names. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:35, 10 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Decompression practice
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Category:Islamic organisations based in Kerala
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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 17:55, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Islamic organisations based in Kerala to Category:Islamic organisations based in India
 * Nominator's rationale: Category:Islamic organisations based in India not subcategorized by state. Gjs238 (talk) 19:57, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I think that all 3 parent categories:, , and are sufficiently large to support this diffusion. If not kept, the category should also be merged to Category:Organisations based in Kerala and Category:Islam in Kerala.  Mason (talk) 23:16, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Oppose per Mason. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:57, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Retract proposal. The category is well populated and the parent/child tree has been sorted out.
 * Gjs238 (talk) 14:10, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Sony's Spider-Man Universe characters
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:14, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * Propose merging Category:Sony's Spider-Man Universe characters to Category:Sony's Spider-Man Universe
 * Nominator's rationale: Only a single character in here. If/when there are more characters with their own pages, this category can be recreated, but it's useless right now. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 23:24, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:58, 7 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Institutes of higher Islamic learning in Kerala
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Islamic universities and colleges in Kerala * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:06, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Institutes of higher Islamic learning in Kerala to Category:Islamic education in Kerala
 * Nominator's rationale: Based on the parent: Islamic education in India. Could also be renamed to Islamic universities and colleges in Kerala Mason (talk) 23:35, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Prefer Category:Islamic universities and colleges in Kerala per Category:Islamic universities and colleges in India, as this is a set category with institutes. Otherwise rename as per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:19, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Equally fine with me Mason (talk) 15:56, 10 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Cemeteries in Arkansas by city
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 * Propose merging Category:Cemeteries in Arkansas by city to Category:Cemeteries in the United States by city
 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant layer. The lone sub-category is already in Category:Cemeteries in Pulaski County, Arkansas so a dual merge is not needed. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:24, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Mason (talk) 20:08, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:21, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Iraqi revolt of 1920
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Category:20th-century Danish men by occupation
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 * Propose merging Category:20th-century Danish men by occupation to Category:20th-century Danish men
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no other content in the parent category Mason (talk) 16:56, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:25, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:15th-century singers by nationality
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 * Propose merging to Category:16th-century male singers
 * Propose merging to Category:15th-century singers
 * Propose merging to Category:14th-century singers
 * Propose merging to Category:12th-century singers
 * Propose merging to Category:13th-century singers
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one (or two) nationality in each of these categories, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 16:33, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom and preferably upmerge the subcategories too. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:41, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


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Priests by nationality
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 * The result of the discussion was: redirect & merge/rename etc. as per nom, emptying Category:Priests by nationality as per below. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl  talk  19:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Albanian priests to Category:Albanian Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:American priests to Category:American Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Armenian priests to Category:Armenian Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Australian priests to Category:Australian Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Austrian priests to Category:Austrian Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Belarusian priests to Category:Belarusian Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Belgian priests to Category:Belgian Roman Catholic clergy
 * Propose merging Category:British priests to Category:British Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:English priests to Category:English Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category: Priests from Northern Ireland to Category:Christian clergy from Northern Ireland
 * Propose merging Category:Bermudian priests to Category:Bermudian Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Welsh priests to Category:Welsh Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Bulgarian priests to Category:Bulgarian Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Canadian priests to Category:Canadian Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Chilean priests to Category:Chilean Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Chinese priests to Category:Chinese Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Colombian priests to Category:Colombian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Costa Rican priests to Category:Costa Rican Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Czech priests to Category:Czech Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Danish priests to Category:Danish Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Dutch priests to Category:Dutch Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Finnish priests to Category:Finnish Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:German priests to Category:German Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Guyanese priests to Category:Guyanese Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Hungarian priests to Category:Hungarian Roman Catholic clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Icelandic priests to Category:Icelandic Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Iraqi priests to Category:Iraqi Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Irish priests to Category:Irish Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Italian priests to Category:Italian Christian clergy
 * Propose splitting Category:Japanese priests to Category:Japanese Shinto priests, Category:Japanese Buddhist clergy and Category:Japanese Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Kenyan priests to Category:Kenyan Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Korean priests to Category:Korean Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Kuwaiti priests to Category:Kuwaiti Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Lebanese priests to Category:Lebanese Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Lithuanian priests to Category:Lithuanian Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Luxembourgian priests to Category:Luxembourgian Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Macedonian priests to Category:Macedonian Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Malaysian priests to Category:Malaysian Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Maltese priests to Category:Maltese Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Mexican priests to Category:Mexican Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Moldovan priests to Category:Moldovan Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Namibian priests to Category:Namibian Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:New Zealand priests to Category:New Zealand Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Norwegian priests to Category:Norwegian Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Pakistani priests to Category:Pakistani Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Palestinian priests to Category:Palestinian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Polish priests to Category:Polish Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Romanian priests to Category:Romanian Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Russian priests to Category:Russian Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Priests from the Russian Empire to Category:Christian clergy from the Russian Empire
 * Propose merging Category:Samoan priests to Category:Samoan Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Slovak priests to Category:Slovak Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Slovenian priests to Category:Slovenian Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Carniolan priests to Category:Carniolan Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Solomon Islands priests to Category:Solomon Islands Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:South African priests to Category:South African Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Soviet priests to Category:Soviet Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Spanish priests to Category:Spanish Christian clergy
 * Propose splitting Category:Sri Lankan priests to Category:Sri Lankan Hindu priests and Category:Sri Lankan Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Swedish priests to Category:Swedish Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Swiss priests to Category:Swiss Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Tongan priests to Category:Tongan Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Turkish priests to Category:Turkish Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Ukrainian priests to Category:Ukrainian Christian clergy
 * Propose merging Category:Vanuatuan priests to Category:Vanuatuan Christian clergy
 * Propose renaming Category:Vietnamese priests to Category:Vietnamese Christian clergy
 * Propose partially merging Category:Priests by nationality to Category:Clergy by former country (just the 3 Roman subcats; the Christian subcats are already suitably parented)
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge/rename, redirecting all. These are just a case of WP:SHAREDNAME among clergy categories mainly for Anglican, Catholic, Lutheran, Hindu and ancient Roman priests. See precedent at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_January_3 where Irish & French priests by century were renamed to Christian clergy. – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:53, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Thanks for cleaning this up! Mason (talk) 16:10, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge/rename per nom. Having a general priests category (not under Christianity) is not very helpful. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:48, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment. The nominator's rationale of SharedName does not make much sense because then the clergy categories to which they want to merge to do not appear to have a different situation. I would say if anything it could be a case of a possible redundant category but before saying that, we need to analyze its parent category, Category:Priests and that of the latter, Category:Clergy by type. (Pinging editors that appeared in the relevant page histories ). Regards, Thinker78  (talk) 04:45, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Before commenting I spent a while digging and I also found an ancient CfD that editors may read for important context as well. To find the complete discussion, use the "find" function of the browser to look for . Regards,  Thinker78  (talk) 05:02, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Whether we need to take a look at Category:Priests as a whole remains to be seen. The problem with the nominated categories above is different, they contain Christian clergy but they do not show up under Christian clergy. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:18, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I took samples and I see Category:South African priests has as a parent category Category:Christian clergy in South Africa. Similarly, Category:Moldovan priests but not Category:Japanese priests, which instead has as a parent Category:Japanese clergy. Regards, Thinker78  (talk) 20:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Japanese priests includes Shinto priests and perhaps Zen or other Buddhist priests. Goustien (talk) 18:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Likewise, Category:Sri Lankan priests includes Hindu priests. Such cases would have to be separated out before any merger to a Christian category. Goustien (talk) 18:23, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Then that is sth that should be taken care of. Debresser (talk) 19:58, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I did check all the members in every nominated category. The nomination is to split the Japanese and Sri Lankan categories, including Jikō Higashifushimi who is the sole Buddhist. In such cases the eventual redirects should be to e.g. Japanese clergy rather than Japanese Christian clergy. Likewise "Palestinian" is not merged to Christian.
 * As for the parent hierarchy Category:Priests, I had no intention of dismantling the rest of it. – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:21, 7 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Unnecessary. Just based on the fact that some denominations and religions use the word "priest" and some don't. Categorisation by terminology is rarely helpful. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:11, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nominator, with exception of the partial merge (which, I notice, has gone unnoticed in previous comments). Lets revisit the issue of what to do with the Priest category afterwards on that category's talkpage (, please ping me again if you open a discussion there). Debresser (talk) 19:58, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * If I see such discussion I will oblige. Regards, Thinker78  (talk) 20:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't mind dropping the partial merge, as the Roman priest categories are within other parents via Category:Ancient Roman priests and under Category:Religious leaders by nationality. In that case, empty Category:Priests by nationality and redirect to Category:Clergy by nationality. – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:33, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Ernst von Siemens Composers' Prize winners
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 * Propose renaming Category:Ernst von Siemens Composers' Prize winners to Category:Ernst von Siemens Composer Prize winners
 * Nominator's rationale: The award was renamed by the foundation. Grimes2 (talk) 14:28, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:49, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Clicking through the articles, these are very prominent composers and this award tends to get mentioned in passing with other honours. Clearly WP:OCAWARD and already listed in Ernst von Siemens Music Prize. (I tagged the category for nominator; no objection to renaming if kept.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Early photographers in Palestine
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Photographers in Palestine (region). (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Early photographers in Palestine to Category:Photographers
 * Nominator's rationale: This seems like a non-defining intersection. At the very least, I think it needs to be renamed to make it clearer. The page description is quite specific... "Early photographers is meant here as: active before 1948, in Ottoman Palestine (from the invention of photography until 1917–1918), and in British-ruled Palestine (from the conquest in the First World War until withdrawal in May 1948). In this time "Palestine" and "Palestinian" did not have a single ethno-political significance, being used for a politically dependent territory and all of its inhabitants. Western photographers active in Palestine/the Holy Land during this period also belong added here, as do Armenian, Christian Arab, Jewish, Muslim Arab and any other resident photographers." Mason (talk) 06:18, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep but rename to Category:Photographers in Palestine (region). I think it's quite relevant where they were active as a photographer, more so than their nationality. By the way, there is also Category:Early photographers in Egypt. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Happy to support a rename! But it might be helpful to model the rename after Category:Botanists by location of research, to make it clear that there's a distinction between nationality and country/region of subject. @Arminden, how would making it clearer that this category tree is about subject/location. So for Category:Early photographers in Egypt it could be renamed Category:Photography pioneers active in Egypt or something to that effect? Mason (talk) 16:16, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * You really want to make things unnecessarily long and complicated. Why adding "active", why adding "region"?! "In Egypt" means they were photographing in Egypt, not vegetating there, so surely active; and Palestine is a vague concept, it's as much a region as a "land", only UN-registered nation states might have clear borders (Israel sure doesn't). A geographical region might mean a topographical unit, or a political unit, so the only reason to add it is to satisfy those afraid of Palestinian propaganda (anachronistic retroprojection of nation concept), so not a must for the less obsessed. Brevity IS a principle and requirement on Wiki, and commonsensical too. Arminden (talk) 16:38, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * If it were unnecessary, then we wouldn't be at this category discussion. Brevity is only as useful as it is clear. What I'm trying to convey to you is that the present category as named isn't clearly distinguishable from other larger category naming conventions. Mason (talk) 21:40, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That's circular. We're here because you opened it up. So not an argument.
 * You noticed that "The page description is quite specific". I wrote it, and precisely because any systematisation effort is only as good as the definitions it uses. And I gave here detailed explanations for each and every detail in that definition/description. I don't, indeed, see what the problem is supposed to be, and you haven't made it very clear. My main point is: this category is a useful tool, and a logical and well defined item. Useful for those who deal with the subjects involved, users and editors alike: one clicks on it and quickly finds useful information. The rest, honestly, doesn't interest me much, not as user and not as editor, unless someone can prove to me I'm wrong: not a useful tool, not logical, not well defined. Strictly formal reservations I dismiss as bureaucratical and damaging the purpose of Wiki, of serving the user. Arminden (talk) 09:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Btw, you don't see many editors rushing here to participate - because the merger proposal doesn't interest many people. Arminden (talk) 09:45, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Add "region" if you wish. Photographing the "Holy Land" was, and still is, a very specific activity. This was a major topic in the early decades of photography, following in the footsteps of the Grand Tour tradition, and needs little discussion. Orientalism was clearly one aspect. Once Zionism steps in, plus Ottoman, Arab, Greater Syrian, and finally Arab Palestinian nationalism, the range of topics widens a lot. Modern reportage and journalism do too. So the need for such a category is absolutely clear to anyone dealing with the subject, as is the starting point and first period (the mention by of Category:Early photographers in Egypt is absolutely to the point, everybody knew what they expected and ancient vs modern definitions of Egypt and its borders never bothered anyone). The qeustion here might be: when to set the end date? This will always be less consensual, and 1948 seemed to me to be a very practical and useful finish line. Once Israel is established, several topics take a new turn, modernity is quite advanced already and "pioneering" soon largely loses any exploratory meaning and only keeps that of experimenting artistically and technically. Then why not 1914 or 1918? That can be discussed. The Bonfils company continues its 19th-century-style work into the 30s, but modern photography moves in at an ever faster pace. However, the Eurocentric spirit is unbroken, as is the sense of pioneering in exotic areas, so a development and continuation in spirit of earlier styles. If one sets the finish line in 1918, or the late 20s, that does indeed separate the modernists from the picturalists, but also leaves out a whole bunch of traditionalists who would be left out of any category. And categories are there to help search & research, to help quickly find ideally all the related Wiki items. Not a rigurous history of art exercise, but a search engine item.

Adding "region" or not is for the conflict-obsessed, who only see Israel/Palestine through that filter and want to avoid ceding any ground to the opposite side, no matter how clumsy and syereotyped language becomes. But these are the times, so - whatever. But definitely, KEEP! Arminden (talk) 14:00, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Their region of activity is defining. Dimadick (talk) 14:49, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Note that Category:Pioneers of photography suggests a separation by the year 1880, based on that "early" or "pioneers" seem not necessary here. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:52, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Photographers in Palestine (region) per above. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:18, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Photographers from Ulaanbaatar
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:11, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose splitting Category:Photographers from Ulaanbaatar to Category:Artists from Ulaanbaatar and Category:Mongolian photographers
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. there's not need to diffuse by city+artist+type of artist Mason (talk) 06:13, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge for now, only one article here, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge for now Overly specific category.Dimadick (talk) 14:50, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Volunteer execution
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Category:People executed by Alabama by gas chamber
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting people executed by alabama by gas chamber
 * Nominator's rationale: The only person in here was not executed by "gas chamber". Kenneth_Smith_(criminal) was executed by Inert gas asphyxiation with a mask. Mason (talk) 03:34, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment, presumably the entire tree of Category:People executed by the United States by gas chamber should be nominated. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:38, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Gas chamber executions in the United States since 1976 have only taken place in Mississippi, Arizona, California, North Carolina, and Nevada. We do not list any gas chamber executions in Alabama. Dimadick (talk) 14:56, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Red-light districts in Hawaii
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Rather than drag this out for another week, discussion on the categorization of Chinatown, Honolulu can take place at Talk:Chinatown, Honolulu. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:21, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:Red-light districts in Hawaii to Category:Prostitution in Hawaii and Category:Red-light districts in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual merge for now. Only one page in here, which isn't helpful for navigaiton Mason (talk) 01:11, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Just delete, it is not a defining characteristic of the only article in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Historical red-light districts in the United States
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to "former xyz". (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Historical red-light districts in the United States to Category:Red-light districts in the United States
 * Propose merging Category:Historical red-light districts in the Republic of Ireland to Category:Red-light districts in the Republic of Ireland
 * Nominator's rationale: Vague. What counts as "historical". If kept, it needs a better name, like "Former" and a parent category. Mason (talk) 01:04, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Rename to "former". Merging would probably confuse some editors in case it is no longer a red-light district. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:43, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename to "former ....". For consistency with parent cats ("Former districts..." and "Former neighborhoods..."). While I understand the point about "historical" being somewhat undefined, as noted by many (and possibly none) of the category members are active "red-light districts". In particular, classifying Grafton Street (in Dublin) or Times Square (in NY) as "red-light districts" (without qualification) would be more than a little misrepresentative of the current use/nature of either place.... Guliolopez (talk) 16:56, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The rename seems like a good solution to me. We should probably also make a parent category called Category:Former red-light districts, while we're at it. Mason (talk) 20:11, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Prostitution in the Byzantine Empire
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:09, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting prostitution in the byzantine empire
 * Propose deleting sex industry in the byzantine empire
 * Propose deleting byzantine people in the sex industry
 * Propose deleting byzantine sex workers
 * Propose deleting byzantine prostitutes
 * Propose deleting byzantine female prostitutes
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. Only one category in this entire tree, which is unhelpful for navigation. I've already added byzantine courtesans‎ to Category:Byzantine women by occupation Mason (talk) 00:55, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete, unhelpful empty categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:44, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:43, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. A useful simplification. Place Clichy (talk) 19:24, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


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