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Category:FOO women executed for witchcraft
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Category:Fictional werewolf hunters

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional monster hunters. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 21:15, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional werewolf hunters to Category:Fictional monster hunters
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one person in this category solely hunts werewolves, suffice it to say it's so tiny as to be an unnecessary WP:NARROWCAT. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:46, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose AHI-3000 (talk) 22:24, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. There's no reason to distinguish by type of monster hunted given the size of the category. If the population grows, then it can be recreated. Mason (talk) 22:56, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment. The world (and this category) needs more werewolf hunters. Keeping us safe from lyncanthropes! Cbl62 (talk) 20:35, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional zombie hunters
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Category:Fictional alien hunters
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Category:Fictional occult and psychic detectives

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional paranormal investigators. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 21:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional occult and psychic detectives to Category:Fictional paranormal investigators
 * Nominator's rationale: There seems to be a pretty large WP:OVERLAPCAT here. Two separate categories on the same thing isn't necessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support AHI-3000 (talk) 22:25, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:03, 13 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional characters who break the fourth wall
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Category:Ion Dragoumis

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:09, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting ion dragoumis
 * Nominator's rationale: There's only a page and a template in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 19:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:07, 13 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Greek journalists by century

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Mason (talk) 20:32, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Greek journalists by century to Category:Greek journalists
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This only has one category in it, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 19:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

. I'm going to close this nomination, now that you've made two other categories. However, please populate them so that they have more than a handful of people in them.Mason (talk) 20:32, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:1901–02 NCAA football bowl games

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:1901 college football season. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 21:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:1901–02 NCAA football bowl games to Category:1901 college football season
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one page in this category. Let&#39;srun (talk) 00:39, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is an accepted consensus that all years with a bowl game should have an individual category for the bowl games. I do not understand why this year should be the only exception out of 100+. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The NCAA wasn't established until 1906 so the name itself is anachronistic and needs to be changed.--User:Namiba 17:05, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * It may be an idea for the future to create decade categories and merge all years to decades until 1939. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I like that idea. Rename Category:College football bowls prior to 1939 and merge the others into it.--User:Namiba 15:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Though, what's special about 1939? Why is that the best cutoff? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:35, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That's a fair question. Perhaps we would better off by decade? Category:College football bowls in the 1910s and so on?--User:Namiba 18:01, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That is what I had in mind. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:52, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * However, then the category Category:College football bowls in the 1900s, which is what would happen to this category, would still have one entry (i.e. no difference). BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:58, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * True, that would only help for the 1910s and up. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:11, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:46, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per Namiba. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:13, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Combine into newly created cat for Category:College football bowl games, 1901–1933 or Category:College football bowl games prior to 1934. All of the cats in earlier years have only one (occasionally two or three bowls). The bowl process started to proliferate more in 1934. The combined category will automatically sort by year, and this seems like a substantially more efficient categorization structure rather than having 30 or so cats with minimal entries. Cbl62 (talk) 20:28, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * This would still violate WP:OCMISC in my opinion. –Aidan721 (talk) 22:12, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge Since the NCAA didn't exist yet. Open to broader improvements to this category tree in a later nomination. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:21, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Unassessed vital articles by level

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:11, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting unassessed vital articles by level and all subcategories
 * Propose deleting unassessed vital articles by topic and all subcategories
 * Nominator's rationale: All vital articles should be assessed so it is useful to have Category:Unassessed vital articles to track these. However it is unnecessary and excessive to divide them into levels and topics. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:02, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: I have tagged the subcategories. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  17:01, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment, as above, the subcategories are neither listed here nor tagged. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:44, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I have described them exactly above. I will take any required actions if the the result is delete. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:17, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Level-unknown vital articles by quality
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 01:27, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting level-unknown vital articles by quality and all subcategories
 * Propose deleting wikipedia level-unknown vital articles by topic and all subcategories
 * Nominator's rationale: All vital articles should have an assigned level so it is useful to have Category:Wikipedia level-unknown vital articles to track these. However it is unnecessary and excessive to divide them by quality and topic &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: I've tagged the suncategories. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  16:58, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Procedural oppose, some subcategories are not empty, so if the nominated categories aren't kept, they should be merged somewhere rather than deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I intend to change the template so that these categories are not populated anymore. They will still be in Category:Wikipedia level-unknown vital articles &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:29, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * My procedural oppose is meanwhile moot. The categories can be deleted if only because they are permanently empty now. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Photographic history books
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Books of photographs. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:17, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Photographic history books to Category:Books of photographs
 * Nominator's rationale: merge for now, having only 2 articles in the category is not helpful for navigation. No objection to recreate the category when more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:38, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Yep. Agree with nom. 21:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs)


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Category:Vital articles in an unknown topic by quality
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting vital articles in an unknown topic by quality and all subcategories
 * Propose deleting wikipedia vital articles in an unknown topic by level and all subcategories
 * Nominator's rationale: All vital articles should have a topic so it is useful to have Category:Wikipedia vital articles in an unknown topic to track these. However it is unnecessary and excessive to divide them by quality and topic &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:17, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: I've tagged all the subcategories. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  16:53, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * do you intend to nominate the subcategories too? If so, you need to list them here and tag the category pages. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I wrote "and all subcategories" above. I don't really have time to tag every single page ... &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * then someone else has to do it, or the discussion will end in a procedural close without action. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:42, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Well that would be a lot of unnecessary bureaucracy, wouldn't it? If this discussion results in consensust to delete, then I will carry out all needed further actions. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:12, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Fictional characters with physical and congenital disorders
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 * The result of the discussion was: Disperse between Category:Fictional characters with disabilities and Category:Fictional characters by physical feature. It's difficult to find any consensus in this fragmented discussion, but this (expressed as "merge") seems to have the most support and there is clearly a consensus the current situation is unideal. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 20:47, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional characters with physical and congenital disorders to Category:Fictional characters with disabilities
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge this category. There isn't a need to divide disabilities by physical and mental. Mason (talk) 16:39, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Fictional characters with physical disorders instead, to provide a clear and distinct counterpart to Category:Fictional characters with mental disorders. AHI-3000 (talk) 08:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Quite a few subcategories aren't about disabilities per se. I would rather suggest renaming the category to Category:Fictional characters by medical or psychological condition - similar to Category:People by medical or psychological condition - and downmerge Category:Fictional characters with disabilities into it. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:46, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd be in support of the rename, but I would not support the downmerge. Disability is not the same as a medical or psychological condition Mason (talk) 22:02, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The disorders categories do belong in a medical or psychological condition, but dyslexia not so much so that one should be purged with the downmerge . Marcocapelle (talk) 09:16, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you walk me through your reasoning for dyslexia not being a medical/psychological condition? Because I consider it to to be one; I'd like to understand. Mason (talk) 21:24, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I am striking that part of my comment, leaving that discussion to other editors if they want to. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Support And purge all that don't fit - we don't need such lengthy and confusingly named categories. This is a textbook WP:ARBITRARYCAT. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:24, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * but then the subcategories that do not fit should go somewhere else and I still think that Category:Fictional characters by medical or psychological condition would be a good "somewhere else". Marcocapelle (talk) 08:27, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I see no real problem with sending those to Category:Fictional characters by physical feature. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:17, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:School buildings in Oregon
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:54, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:School buildings in Oregon to Category:Schools in Oregon
 * Propose merging Category:School buildings in Idaho to Category:Schools in Idaho
 * Propose merging Category:School buildings in Georgia (U.S. state) to Category:Schools in Georgia (U.S. state)
 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant layer with one sub-category. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:14, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:58, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep There is a whole tree under Category:School buildings that would need to be addressed. Buildings are different than institutions.--User:Namiba 23:45, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - So the nominator oringally empties the category, tries to speedy delete it, then now wants to merge it after creating the "University and college buildings in Oregon" category? Which that would be a subcategory of this category. And as the university one demonstrates, not all buildings should be in schools, otherwise the uni/college building category the nominator just created would also be redundant. Aboutmovies (talk) 01:26, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Universities and colleges are not schools. They are both educational institutions and would both belong in the educational buildings category. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:46, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Universities and colleges are not schools. Spent three years in law school ... they told me it was a school! Should I sue them for fraud? Cbl62 (talk) 21:08, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * User:Namiba has a point, i.e. it should become a dual merge also to Category:School buildings in the United States while the school buildings tree still exists. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:00, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The only sub-categories of the nominations are members of Category:School buildings on the National Register of Historic Places. The entire Category:School buildings in the United States tree is pretty much Category:School buildings on the National Register of Historic Places. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:45, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I see, so yeah, then merging to Category:School buildings in the United States is redundant, the content remains in the tree of Category:School buildings anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:05, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Merge Per nom. In practice these are the same things since university buildings are not under schools. (I share Cbl62's confusion as to what that is the case but that broader discussion is for another time.) The NRHP listings generally focus on the building architecture rather than the education that went on there. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Vegetation of New Zealand
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 01:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Vegetation of New Zealand to Category:Flora of New Zealand
 * Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories Mason (talk) 16:00, 27 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:02, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. These are not overlapping at all. Vegetation is different and distinct from individual plant species. Hesperian 23:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The flora category should not be limited to individual species. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:23, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * Merge. No difference. Gderrin (talk) 20:27, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Agree with . Strong Keep Flora typically means the plants themselves and should consist of taxon names (& common names for plant taxa). Vegetation typically refers to types of vegetation The distinction should be kept, even though not all contributors understand it. MargaretRDonald (talk) 05:46, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Vegetation of Australia
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 01:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Vegetation of Australia to Category:Flora of Australia
 * Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. If kept it needs to be renamed to make it clearer that these are distinct. The category page includes the following description. "This category is for vegetation communities and types that occur in Australia, such as mallee and mulga. For individual plant taxa, see Category:Flora of Australia" Mason (talk) 15:59, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:03, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. These are not overlapping at all. Vegetation is different and distinct from individual plant species, as the category page clearly states. It doesn't need renaming either -- the term "vegetation" serves as the name of our article vegetation, and no-one has felt that it needs to be clarified or disambiguated. Hesperian 23:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The flora category should not be limited to individual species. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:23, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That is just a restatement of the proposal: redefining the flora category to encompass both species articles and vegetation articles, is exactly what is proposed. But I don't see a sensible rationale for doing so. The claim that they are overlapping is simply false. They are related but distinct. Hesperian 12:42, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Flora is all plant life. Vegetation belongs to plant life too. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:39, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Golly, it sounds like vegetation is a sub-category of flora. Hesperian 10:08, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep The wording of the nomination itself is a give away by the way it has been created - however, in one point they are separate and not overlapping. There are distinct purposes for the separation. JarrahTree 02:09, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Flora typically means the plants themselves and should consist of taxon names (& common names for plant taxa). Vegetation typically refers to types of vegetation and as can be seen from the category include mallee lands, vegetation communities and so on which are Australian. The distinction should be kept, even though not all contributors understand it. MargaretRDonald (talk) 05:43, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Montenegrin Malacologists
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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. Closing discussion in order to instead propose merge to Category:Malacologists along with other related single-page categories. (non-admin closure) Monster Iestyn (talk) 01:03, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Montenegrin Malacologists to Category:Montenegrin malacologists
 * Nominator's rationale: "malacologists" should not start with a capital letter in this category name. Monster Iestyn (talk) 03:26, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Speedy rename per C2A. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 04:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @LaundryPizza03 Ah whoops, I forgot about that speedy rename criteria, thanks. Monster Iestyn (talk) 16:53, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * Alt merge to Category:Montenegrin scientists and Category:Malacologists, there is only one article in the category which is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:34, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Marcocapelle: On top of that, Vladimir Pešić appears to be the only Montenegrin-nationality biologist and zoologist currently at least on English Wikipedia, let alone malacologist. There aren't even categories for the former two, but this one was created anyway. While I agree with you, I think the reason I didn't suggest this myself was because I saw other single-article malacologists by nationality categories such as Category:Irish malacologists and Category:Norwegian malacologists, and I wasn't prepared to make this a bigger discussion (maybe I was tired). Monster Iestyn (talk) 17:05, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
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Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 01:04, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:History of the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands by period to Category:History of the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands
 * Propose merging Category:Years of the 20th century in the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands to Category:Years in the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands
 * Propose deleting Category:20th century in the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands
 * Propose merging Category:20th-century establishments in the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands to Category:Establishments in the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands by decade
 * Propose merging Category:20th-century disestablishments in the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands to Category:Disestablishments in the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands by decade
 * Propose deleting Category:Establishments in the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands by century
 * Propose deleting Category:Disestablishments in the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands by century


 * Nominator's rationale: Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands only existed within one century. Merge/delete per precedent at Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 15. Manually merge parent categories for C20 onto target cats. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:02, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:31, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support extra layers not needed for a former jurisdiction that only existed in one century. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:32, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


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20th century in the Trucial States
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 01:03, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Years of the 20th century in the Trucial States to Category:Years in the Trucial States
 * Propose deleting Category:20th century in the Trucial States
 * Propose merging Category:20th-century establishments in the Trucial States to Category:Establishments in the Trucial States by decade
 * Propose deleting Category:Establishments in the Trucial States by century
 * Propose deleting Category:Centuries in the Trucial States


 * Nominator's rationale: Trucial States only existed within one century. Merge/delete per precedent at Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 15. Manually merge parent categories for C20 onto target cats. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:30, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom Mason (talk) 19:43, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:32, 13 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Concept- and mind-mapping software
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus on Category:Concept- and mind-mapping software programmed in Java (with no prejudice against speedy renomination); dual merge the others as nominated. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Concept- and mind-mapping software programmed in Java to Category:Java platform software and Category:Concept- and mind-mapping software for Linux
 * Propose merging Category:Concept- and mind-mapping software that uses GTK to Category:Software that uses GTK and Category:Concept- and mind-mapping software for Linux
 * Propose merging Category:Concept- and mind-mapping software that uses Qt to Category:Software that uses Qt and Category:Concept- and mind-mapping software for Linux

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 * Nominator's rationale: Merge per WP:NARROWCAT. Unhelpful for navigation.  Delta  space <sup style="color:#013220">42 (talk • contribs) 10:17, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Support GTK and Qt/Neutral on Java GTK and Qt are clearly NARROWCAT. The Java one is well populated but I defer to others whether that intersection is defining. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:24, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Merge GTK and Qt, very poorly populated categories, that is not helpful for navigation. No objection to recreate these categories when more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:35, 13 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Chicago Dental Infirmary football
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting chicago dental infirmary football
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one subcategory. Let&#39;srun (talk) 12:10, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Upmerge. This should be upmerged to Loyola Ramblers football Mason (talk) 15:35, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep? - see below argument. We always have categories for different college teams - this seems to have been different than Loyola? BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:30, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete for now. Neutral on the seasons subcat nomination but this layer doesn't aid navigation regardless. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. Merging is not needed because the subcategory is already in Category:Loyola Ramblers football seasons. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:39, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete without administering novocaine. Per the article on the Chicago Dental Infirmary, it only operated as such from March 12, 1883, until June 30, 1884. It was thereafter rechartered and became the "Chicago College of Dental Surgery". So this category is premised on a misnomer, and it appears there was never any such thing as "Chicago Dental Infirmary football". The sources listed at 1897 Chicago Dental Infirmary football team confirm that the school was then known as the "Chicago College of Dental Surgery" (e.g., here and here), and not the "Chicago Dental Infirmary". Pull the lone tooth from this category and it becomes an empty and useless dental alveolus. Cbl62 (talk) 21:33, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Chicago Dental Infirmary football seasons
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:06, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting chicago dental infirmary football seasons
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one article in this category Let&#39;srun (talk) 12:09, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Upmerge. This should be upmerged to Loyola Ramblers football seasons Mason (talk) 15:36, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep? - generally we keep all categories for different college football seasons, even when there is just one article. Chicago Dental Infirmary seems to have been a different team than Loyola? BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete, there is only a redirect and a subcategory. (I am not sure about merging to Loyola Ramblers football seasons.) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:35, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. As far as I can tell. This team was not a precursor to the Loyola Ramblers team, but rather the only association is that Chicago Dental Infirmary was merged into the dental school at Loyola Chicago in 1926. At the time they were separate institutions with no relation. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, and once again sans novocaine. See my rationale on the master category. Cbl62 (talk) 21:36, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


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Empty babel categories
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete all (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:48, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting:
 * Category:User_iu-N


 * Category:User_kab-1
 * Category:User_kab-2
 * Category:User_kg-4
 * Category:User_kg-5
 * Category:User_khw-1
 * Category:User_khw-2
 * Category:User_khw-3
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 * Category:User_ast-5
 * Category:User_avk-2
 * Category:User_avk-4
 * Category:User_bcc-1
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 * Category:User_bcc-3
 * Category:User_bcc-4
 * Category:User_bcc-5
 * Category:User_be-tarask-2
 * Category:User_be-tarask-3
 * Category:User_be-tarask-4
 * Category:User_be-tarask-5
 * Category:User_be-tarask-N
 * Category:User_bpy-2
 * Category:User_bpy-4
 * Category:User_bpy-5
 * Category:User_bpy-N
 * Category:User_bug-1
 * Category:User_bug-3
 * Category:User_bug-4
 * Category:User_bug-5
 * Category:User_bxr-1
 * Category:User_bxr-2
 * Category:User_bxr-3
 * Category:User_bxr-4
 * Category:User_bxr-5
 * Category:User_ce-1
 * Category:User_ce-4
 * Category:User_ce-5
 * Category:User_ceb-5
 * Category:User_ch-2
 * Category:User_ch-5
 * Category:User_chr-5
 * Category:User_co-4
 * Category:User_co-5
 * Category:User_cr-2
 * Category:User_cr-4
 * Category:User_cr-5
 * Category:User_cr-N
 * Category:User_crh-5
 * Category:User_csb-4
 * Category:User_csb-5
 * Category:User_cv-5
 * Category:User_dsb-4
 * Category:User_dv-1
 * Category:User_dv-5
 * Category:User_eml-3
 * Category:User_eml-4
 * Category:User_eml-5
 * Category:User_fj-2
 * Category:User_fj-3
 * Category:User_fj-4
 * Category:User_fj-5
 * Category:User_fj-N
 * Category:User_fo-5
 * Category:User_frr-2
 * Category:User_frr-3
 * Category:User_frr-4
 * Category:User_frr-5
 * Category:User_fur-4
 * Category:User_fur-5
 * Category:User_fy-5
 * Category:User_gag-1
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 * Category:User_gl-5
 * Category:User_gn-4
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 * Category:User_got-5
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 * Category:User_hsb-5
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 * Category:User_ie-4
 * Category:User_ie-5
 * Category:User_ie-N
 * Category:User_ig-2
 * Category:User_ig-3
 * Category:User_ig-5
 * Category:User_ik-2
 * Category:User_ik-3
 * Category:User_ik-4
 * Category:User_ik-5
 * Category:User_ik-N
 * Category:User_ilo-5
 * Category:User_inh-1
 * Category:User_inh-2
 * Category:User_inh-3
 * Category:User_inh-5
 * Category:User_io-N
 * Category:User_iu-2
 * Category:User_iu-3
 * Category:User_iu-4
 * Category:User_iu-5

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 * Nomiantor's rationale: These are not the sort of categories that should be kept despite being empty. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 20:19, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per nom. Not sure why these categories exist. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete all as empty per WP:CSD. The usage of Template:possibly empty category is inappropriate for these categories and I'm not sure why that would have been added. That template is reserved for cleanup categories that often get emptied and then repopulated, these categories don't fit into that mold. VegaDark (talk) 17:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree with you in theory that these should be speedyable, but I generally prefer to get explicit consensus before undertaking mass actions, so here we are. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 04:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment do the language user boxes autocategorize into "CAT:User ISO639" base category if the "-X" skill level subcategory is missing? -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 22:35, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It depends. If they are done by #babel: then it will cause to recreate the category; If they are done by a template then it will most likely populate the category despite being red, and someone on WantedCategories patrol will recreate it. But most of these have been empty for years or longer, so that's unlikely. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...  04:49, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


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Roman Catholic cathedrals in Curaçao
Relisted, see Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 20%23Roman Catholic cathedrals in Curaçao

People by occupation and city or town
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Category:Actresses by city or town in France to Category:French actresses by populated place
 * Category:Actresses by city or town in China to Category:Chinese actresses by populated place
 * Category:Actresses by city or town in Canada to Category:Canadese actresses by populated place Category:Canadian actresses by populated place
 * Category:Actresses by city or town in Brazil to Category:Brazilian actresses by populated place
 * Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Portugal to Category:Portuguese sportspeople by populated place
 * Nominator's rationale: rename per precedent at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_January_1: 1) using denonym per WP:C2C; 2) using "populated place" instead of "city or town" per recent discussions; 3) having the splitter at the end of the category name, per convention.


 * these four should have the splitter at the end, WP:C2B, e.g. Category:French actresses by populated place. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:17, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * They can be combined for full CfD with the one further down below for full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * the splitter should be at the end, WP:C2B, so it should become Category:Portuguese sportspeople by populated place. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:21, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Good catch! Mason (talk) 00:42, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Category:Sportspeople from Portugal by populated place would be more in line with Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 1. --Paul_012 (talk) 00:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That is a good point. The previous rename was a step in the right direction, but not spot on yet, as someone also commented in that discussion. Better move this to full CfD then. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * pinging contributors to speedy discussions. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:32, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:50, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom Mason (talk) 19:42, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom except "Canadese" should be "Canadian". Also tagging sibling categories in Category:Actresses by country and populated place and Category:Sportspeople by country and populated place for consistency.


 * Propose renaming Category:Actresses by city or town in Germany to Category:German actresses by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Actresses by populated place in India to Category:Indian actresses by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Actresses by city or town in Ireland to Category:Irish actresses by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Actresses by city or town in Japan to Category:Japanese actresses by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Actresses by city or town in Mexico to Category:Mexican actresses by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Actresses by city or town in Nigeria to Category:Nigerian actresses by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Actresses by city or town in South Korea to Category:South Korean actresses by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Actresses by city or town in Taiwan to Category:Taiwanese actresses by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Actresses by city or town in the United Kingdom to Category:British actresses by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Actresses by populated place in the United States to Category:American actresses by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Afghanistan to Category:Afghan sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Albania to Category:Albanian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Algeria to Category:Algerian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Andorra to Category:Andorran sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Angola to Category:Angolan sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Argentina to Category:Argentine sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Armenia to Category:Armenian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Australia to Category:Australian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Austria to Category:Austrian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Azerbaijan to Category:Azerbaijani sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Bangladesh to Category:Bangladeshi sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Belarus to Category:Belarusian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Belgium to Category:Belgian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Bolivia to Category:Bolivian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Brazil to Category:Brazilian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Bulgaria to Category:Bulgarian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Cambodia to Category:Cambodian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Cameroon to Category:Cameroonian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Canada to Category:Canadian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Chile to Category:Chilean sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in China to Category:Chinese sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Colombia to Category:Colombian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Costa Rica to Category:Costa Rican sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Croatia to Category:Croatian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Cuba to Category:Cuban sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in the Czech Republic to Category:Czech sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in the Democratic Republic of the Congo to Category:Democratic Republic of the Congo sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Denmark to Category:Danish sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in the Dominican Republic to Category:Dominican sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Ecuador to Category:Ecuadorian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Egypt to Category:Egyptian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in El Salvador to Category:Salvadoran sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Estonia to Category:Estonian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Fiji to Category:Fijian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Finland to Category:Finnish sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in France to Category:French sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Germany to Category:German sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Ghana to Category:Ghanaian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Greece to Category:Greek sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Honduras to Category:Honduran sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Hungary to Category:Hungarian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Iceland to Category:Icelandic sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in India to Category:Indian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Indonesia to Category:Indonesian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Iran to Category:Iranian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Iraq to Category:Iraqi sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Ireland to Category:Irish sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Israel to Category:Israeli sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Italy to Category:Italian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Ivory Coast to Category:Ivorian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Jamaica to Category:Jamaican sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Japan to Category:Japanese sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Kazakhstan to Category:Kazakhstani sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Kenya to Category:Kenyan sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by municipality in Kosovo to Category:Kosovan sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Kyrgyzstan to Category:Kyrgyzstani sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Latvia to Category:Latvian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Lebanon to Category:Lebanese sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Lithuania to Category:Lithuanian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Luxembourg to Category:Luxembourgian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Malaysia to Category:Malaysian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Mexico to Category:Mexican sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Moldova to Category:Moldovan sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Mongolia to Category:Mongolian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Montenegro to Category:Montenegrin sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Morocco to Category:Moroccan sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Myanmar to Category:Burmese sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Namibia to Category:Namibian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by populated place in the Netherlands to Category:Dutch sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in New Zealand to Category:New Zealand sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Nicaragua to Category:Nicaraguan sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Nigeria to Category:Nigerian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in North Macedonia to Category:North Macedonian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Norway to Category:Norwegian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Pakistan to Category:Pakistani sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Panama to Category:Panamanian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Paraguay to Category:Paraguayan sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Peru to Category:Peruvian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in the Philippines to Category:Filipino sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Poland to Category:Polish sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Portugal to Category:Portuguese sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Romania to Category:Romanian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Russia to Category:Russian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Saudi Arabia to Category:Saudi Arabian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Senegal to Category:Senegalese sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Serbia to Category:Serbian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Slovakia to Category:Slovakian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Slovenia to Category:Slovenian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in South Africa to Category:South African sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople from South Korea by city to Category:South Korean sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Spain to Category:Spanish sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Sri Lanka to Category:Sri Lankan sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Suriname to Category:Surinamese sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Sweden to Category:Swedish sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Switzerland to Category:Swiss sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Syria to Category:Syrian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Taiwan to Category:Taiwanese sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Tajikistan to Category:Tajikistani sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Trinidad and Tobago to Category:Trinidad and Tobago sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Tunisia to Category:Tunisian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Turkey to Category:Turkish sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Ukraine to Category:Ukrainian sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in the United Kingdom to Category:British sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by populated place in the United States to Category:American sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Uruguay to Category:Uruguayan sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Uzbekistan to Category:Uzbekistani sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Venezuela to Category:Venezuelan sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city in Vietnam to Category:Vietnamese sportspeople by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Zimbabwe to Category:Zimbabwean sportspeople by populated place


 * Oppose as proposed. As I mentioned at CFDS, it should be Category:Actresses from France by populated place to be in line with the results of the previous CfD in October. If a change is desired from that format, all the previously moved categories should also be tagged for renaming. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That discussion involved moving the splitter from the middle to the end. This discussion is about changing "Actresses from Foo" to "Fooite actresses" following the tree Category:People by occupation and nationality and city. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:16, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, I just saw the December CfD. The problem here is that we now have conflicting precedents: The October one was for People from Foo by place, while the December one was for Fooian people by place. I've struck my oppose here, but a follow-up nom is needed to reconcile the whole tree one way or the other. (And for that matter, I still think the People from Foo format is preferable as the one that properly reflects the member categories. Being considered to be "from" a place does not imply one must have that place's nationality.) --Paul_012 (talk) 16:16, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


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State or territory
Relisted, see Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 24%23State or territory

American/British rock/hip hop genres categories
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:50, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:American rock music genres to Category:Rock music genres
 * Propose merging Category:British rock music genres to Category:Rock music genres
 * Propose merging Category:American hip hop genres to Category:Hip hop genres
 * Propose merging Category:British hip hop genres to Category:Hip hop genres


 * Nominator's rationale:
 * Such division by country of origin is of no practical use, and it only creates difficulties with categorisation, which will never be correct in this environment.
 * Firstly, most of the genres are duplicated in two categories, because many genres have both US and UK country of origin in their infoboxes at the same time. The practical sense of this division is lost in 60% of cases for rock categories, and in some cases for hip-hop. I personally don't see any practical convenience in constantly switching between these two categories in an attempt to figure out which genres are truly exclusively British.
 * Secondly, genres often have roots in other countries besides the US and UK, but there are no categories for this and will not be, but they will be placed in these two categories rather than in the general category (e.g. Reggae rock). And it's unclear whether or not such genres should be placed in those categories and such situations.
 * Thirdly, in a situation when there are major genres with their own sub-genres and globalisation is a thing, such a hierarchy cannot be correctly arranged by country of origin. You put a major genre in one category, and it has its own nested categories for subgenres that were created all over the world. For example, Category:Heavy metal genres is now located only in "American rock music genres" and "British rock music genres", while it has a huge number of sub-genres created in individual European countries. And it turns out that the categorisation tells you that Celtic metal is an American and British genre.
 * So I suggest remove the categories and move their content to Category:Hip hop genres and Category:Rock music genres respectively. Solidest (talk) 07:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * P.S. For American hip hop I created Category:American hip hop scenes a few years ago, which is both much more specific and would avoid all the problems described above. Solidest (talk) 08:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom and WP:OVERLAPCAT. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:06, 13 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:17th-century Franco-Flemish composers
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:16th-century Franco-Flemish composers. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:17th-century Franco-Flemish composers to Category:16th-century Franco-Flemish composers
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, the Franco-Flemish School flourished from about 1430 to 1620 so very little in the 17th century, and all articles of this category belong in the 16th century too. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:10, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Death in Italy by place
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Death in Italy. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Death in Italy by place to Category:Death in Italy
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. It's unhelpful for navigation to have two cities tucked away from the parent category. If kept, it should be renamed to "by location" or "by city" Mason (talk) 05:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:People executed by explosive device
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Deaths by explosive device. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People executed by explosive device to Category:Deaths by explosive device
 * Nominator's rationale: Extremely small category. Upmerge for now. Mason (talk) 05:10, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:36, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Read the story of Eugenio Calò. How did the Nazis even come up with such sick shit? Nonetheless, the upmerge makes sense. Cbl62 (talk) 21:41, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Historical research institutes
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:History institutes. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:33, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Historical research institutes to Category:History institutes
 * Nominator's rationale: These appear to refer to the same type of research institutes. Logan Talk Contributions 00:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom, or if there is any difference between the two categories then it should be clarified much better. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:41, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support merge They are almost same. killer  bee    15:07, 13 January 2024 (UTC)


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