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Category:Fictional commercial aviators

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl  talk  21:00, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional commercial aviators to Category:Fictional aviators
 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary vague cross-categorization made by a blocked user. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:25, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose, this parallels well with the real-life Category:Commercial aviators. AHI-3000 (talk) 19:15, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Merge Garry Halliday seems like the only one defined by being a commercial aviator. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:09, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge per Revelation Mason (talk) 02:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Novels set in 20th-century Russia

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 02:59, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting novels set in 20th-century russia
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. The subcategory is already in Category:Novels set in Russia so there is no reason to merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:54, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom Mason (talk) 02:54, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Danzig emigrants to the United States
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Category:Criminals by sex

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl  talk  21:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Criminals by sex to Category:Criminals
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Unhelpful for navigation to isolate these two categories. If kept, it should be renamed to Criminals by gender, per Category:People by gender Mason (talk) 22:40, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Why not rename to category:Criminals by gender? Apokrif (talk) 10:04, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. This is not worth keeping. –Aidan721 (talk) 12:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_28. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 11:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:2019 crimes in Northern Ireland

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 03:00, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging category to Category:2019 crimes in the United Kingdom, Category:2019 crimes in Ireland, Category:2019 in Northern Ireland, and Category:2010s crimes in Northern Ireland
 * Nominator's rationale: Only 1 article. The current tree is for crimes by decade in Northern Ireland. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:25, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:53, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Disasters in Ireland by year
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Category:15th-century Mexican nobility
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:15th-century Aztec nobility. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:15th-century Mexican nobility to Category:15th-century nobility
 * Nominator's rationale: Small category that should either be upmerged or renamed to 15th-century Aztec nobility per content. Mason (talk) 05:25, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Rename, reparent and populate to Category:15th-century Aztec nobility. Biographies should be moved from Category:15th century in the Aztec civilization to here when appropriate. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Fine with me Mason (talk) 22:55, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:People of colonial Arizona
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 * The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:People of Alta California and Category:People from pre-statehood Arizona. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:20, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People of colonial Arizona to Category:People of Alta California and Category:People from pre-statehood Arizona
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge per previous Cfds on "People of colonial Maine" and "People of colonial West Viriginia". Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:19, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:30, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 11:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional savateurs
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Category:Place names
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Toponymy. There is agreement from most participants that this is an outcome they would be happy with. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 03:03, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Place names to Category:Place naming
 * Nominator's rationale: Your reason(s) for the proposed rename."Place names" is a highly confusing name for category, because all place names can pe put there, and I have already removed a couple. As I undertand it is a subcat of toponymics. Therefore "Place naming" is correct category name, so that individual place names will not land into it. - Altenmann >talk 20:24, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Weak oppose, "place naming" doesn't sound as common language. I do agree that it is potentially confusing. Alternatives are renaming to Category:Toponymy of populated places or merging to Category:Toponymy. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:09, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Upmerging to Category:Toponymy sounds good. It already sontains plenty of entries like List of modern names for biblical place names, Place names in Azerbaijan, List of Mormon place names, etc. - Altenmann >talk 21:18, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * While we are here it looks like some subcategories need some beating as well . For example, the whole Category:Hokkien place names is not about place names, but about places, i.e., it must be renamed into Category:Hokkien places. Can someone take a general look? I.e., many articles in this category tree are about places, not about names. - Altenmann >talk 21:24, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think that a "general look" is required. Categories that need to be renamed should simply be nominated. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I was taking about "general look" because there are many of them and there must be some consistency if renaming will be needed. At the first glance the whole enchilada of "*place names*" categories must be renamed, because vast majority of articles are about places, not about names, and articles/categories about place names should be narrowed in scope to topomymy. - Altenmann >talk 22:00, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Hokkien place names consists of places with a Hokkien-language name. I don't think that Category:Hokkien places as a category name would describe the content more clearly than the current category name. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:32, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The articles in category are about places, not about names. At best, it must be Category:Places with Hokkien names, if this distinction is important. Anyway, thanks for clarification. - Altenmann >talk 23:01, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm seeing some of the subcategories as being WP:SHAREDNAME because they're being grouped by the name rather than by anything defining. But that can be for another nom. - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:05, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Merge to Category:Toponymy. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:32, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Paralympic Sport Awards — Best Female winners
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:51, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Paralympic Sport Awards — Best Female winners and Category:Paralympic Sport Awards — Best Male winners to Category:Recipients of the PARA SPORT Award (or something to that effect.)
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge and rename. This award is now called "PARA SPORT Awards" per Mason (talk) 02:03, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Tagged Category:Paralympic Sport Awards — Best Male winners. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  17:13, 10 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seawolf35 <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">T--C 16:07, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Substantively I can't say anything meaningful here, neither pro nor con. I wonder however if PARA SPORT really needs to be capitalized, it seems merely a style issue. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:33, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That's a good question. I don't know if its stylistic. I'll see if I can find some articles describing the award. Mason (talk) 20:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok... so IPC consistently refers to it as "PARA SPORT" . But the rest of the media isn't consistent... NO, YES I think that the point of the styling is to make it clear that it is a specific award from the International Paralympic Committee, as opposed to a genre of awards for parasports. An alternative might be model the category name after subcategories of Category:Edward R. Murrow Awards, like Category:Edward R. Murrow Award (CPB) winners. So it could say Category:Recipients of the Para Sport Award (IPC) Mason (talk) 21:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Public image by individuals
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:20, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Public image by individuals to Category:Criticism of individuals
 * Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories Mason (talk) 02:47, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Oppose per WP:C2D. The articles, especially in the politicians subcategory, are consistently named "Public image of ...". If something needs to be changed here (which I do not expect) then it should at least apply to the subcategories simultaneously. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:28, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * How would you feel about a reverse merge? Mason (talk) 20:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Reverse merge has the same problem, the articles in Category:Criticism of individuals are called "Criticism of", so I am opposed to that too. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:32, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Oppose. Public image is not the same as Criticism. Criticism can be a part of Public Image and vice versa. Moreover, Public Image articles of people outside politicians exist and are emerging.
 *  ℛonherry  ☘  14:55, 23 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:International Organisation of Good Templars people
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (Noting for the record that the only keep !voter changed their vote in the relist period.) (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:19, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting international organisation of good templars people
 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCASSOC and we do not categorize people by fraternity. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:54, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

* Keep. We do categorize people by fraternity, e.g.,. In the case of the I.O.G.T., it is a "fraternal organization" whose scope is that of a "temperance organization". Its members are always temperance advocates/activists. For example, see Martha B. O'Donnell whose article, coincidentally, I started yesterday before being notified about the proposed category deletion. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  16:32, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The naming convention of subcats in appears to be "Members of [foo]", ergo, renaming this to  or  should be considered. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:24, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - I've added the names of all the people in this category into the article itself in a Notable people section. Retaining the category isn't significant to me, so I don't want to hold up the deletion of something that others think should happen. Signing off as the cat creator, --Rosiestep (talk) 21:50, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment Categories for Lions and Odd Fellows were deleted by consensus at CFD here and here, so them being recreated (in good faith I'm sure) under a different name doesn't really show a consensus for this category. - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:27, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete Non-defining textbook WP:OCASSOC. No objection to more narrow category for leadership in the organization though. - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:27, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Secret millionaire philanthropists
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:51, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Secret millionaire philanthropists to Category:American philanthropists
 * Nominator's rationale: Ummm, what? This is clearly not defining Mason (talk) 02:13, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose keep. I've added WP:CATDESC. As to WP:CATDEF, when reliable sources talk about individuals in this category, they invariably talk about BOTH secretly accumulated wealth AND about unexpectedly ( =secretly) made donation. Many sources combine these two themes right into the articles titles e.g. 6 Secret Millionaires Who Left It All to Charity, ...Quietly Amasses Fortune, Then Donates $8.2 Million, Secret millionaire...donates $7 million, ...died with a big secret, leaving his town millions, ...man dies a secret multimillionaire, leaves $3.8M to his small town, Ex-Janitor Bequeaths Secret Millions to Library. - Yamfri /ˈjæm.friː/ (talk) 00:41, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * The fact that they were secret millionnaires is defining, it is the sole reason for their notability. I have more doubts about the philanthropists part, because donations from one's will are fairly common. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if secret millionaires is defining. There are a "lot" of millionaires out there. If it stays, it needs really clear criteria because we don't have any other secret occupations like this. Mason (talk) 23:17, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * heh, the problem of English language :-). I thought the defining part is "secret philantropists" (although the proper term would be anonymous philantropists).... Or not.. Sylvia Bloom was a secret millionaire. Do we have category:Secret millionaires? I have a couple fictional secret millionaries: some plots revolve around them. - Altenmann >talk 23:30, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Both secret wealth and (secret) giving are defining, in my opinion. A secret millionarie who leaves all to children is too routine, not interesting to news media. A secret millionarie who, surprizing all, leaves most or all wealth to charities that gets media coverage and becomes notable. Yamfri /ˈjæm.friː/ (talk) 03:24, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I think that at best, this should be listified instead as it's too vague without a TON of context. Mason (talk) 22:20, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Just delete per all targets already being in the parent target cat. This one feels like a WP:SUBJECTIVECAT issue. Respublik (talk) 15:10, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Delete per Respublik. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:12, 20 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Russian Orthodox churches by country
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Category:New Zealand music educators
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Category:Educators by nationality and city
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:15, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Educators by nationality and city to Category:Educators by nationality and populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:New Zealand educators by city to Category:New Zealand educators by populated place
 * Nominator's rationale: In the same spirit as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_4#Category:American_people_by_city_and_occupation, I think we should broaden this category to populated place. Mason (talk) 14:39, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:41, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename per ample recent precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:45, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Films about the Abrahamic religions
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Religious films by religion. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Films about the Abrahamic religions to Category:Religious films by religion
 * Nominator's rationale: This has another parent Category:Abrahamic religions, but IMHO is is not a useful addition to that hierarchy. Maybe intended to build an expanded hierarchy around this intersection when he created this last May, but it is not currently helpful. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:53, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:56, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose Currently, this is the only category linking the film depictions with Category:Abrahamic religions. Dimadick (talk) 13:56, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support, Abrahamic religions is a useful term in the study of religions, but it is not as if the three religions have so much in common that it justifies a common category tree for all sorts of topics. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. This may have been a useful intersection if there were films that specifically were about all Abrahamic religions. That does not appear as each film is specific to Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:31, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Films about dance
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Category:Fictional characters with animal abilities
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Category:Fictional characters with volcanic abilities
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 * The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  21:47, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional characters with volcanic abilities to Category:Fictional characters with fire or heat abilities
 * Nominator's rationale: Clear WP:NARROWCAT with a very small focus. There is not much importance to whether a fire ability is, specifically, volcano-based. While the obvious merge target is fire, it can also be merged to others if necessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:04, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose merging, lava/magma manipulation is a distinct and separate power from just manipulating fire and flames. Also I don't know why you suggested Category:Fictional characters with fire or heat abilities rather than Category:Fictional characters with earth or stone abilities, the latter is more directly relevant to lava/magma. AHI-3000 (talk) 18:46, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * When someone says volcanic it implies heat/lava, that's just a common sense thing to me. Volcanism is, specifically, the eruption of molten rock. However, for the record I support adding the character to both categories if needed. This is still a NARROWCAT. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge Manually to parents per WP:NARROWCAT and WP:NONDEFINING. The only 1 of the 4 characters who seems to routinely use this capability is Magma (comics) while the other 3 don't seem defined by the capability. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support alt merge per RevelationDirect. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:32, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support alt merge per RevelationDirect. <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional tubers
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Category:Nonexistent things
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:12, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting nonexistent things
 * Nominator's rationale: This is just confusing and vague. Seems like a WP:SUBJECTIVECAT if there ever was one. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:45, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep. The subcats help explain what this is about: objects in fiction, imagination, or supposition that, you know, don't actually exist. StAnselm (talk) 07:35, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't believe they do. For example, is an unbuilt structure really a "nonexistent thing", or does that only encompass things that cannot exist, like a circular square? Can a nonexistent thing be a concept or does it have to be an object? Does it have to have previously existed or can it just be something that could exist? Nonexistent objects is about a particular philosophical theory and has nothing to do with this category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:50, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Leaning to support, the fact that the only parent is Category:Fiction while the category also contains very different things than fiction illustrates that this category does not really belong somewhere. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:29, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Should have its scope enforced very strictly against editors adding random stuff into it, but if that's done, it seems well-defined enough.  SnowFire (talk) 01:58, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * There is no enforcement in individual categories. Categories should be self-explanatory or should not exist. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:10, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per SnowFire AHI-3000 (talk) 19:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I am not sure who will do this "strict enforcement", many times when I tried to fix a category I was reverted, making it impossible to enforce anything. Problems with specific categories are bad enough without there being incredibly vague ones. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:09, 20 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Sikh organizations in Canada
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Mason (talk) 19:40, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Sikh organizations in Canada to Category:Sikh organisations and Category:Religious organizations based in Canada and Category:Sikhism in Canada
 * Nominator's rationale: merge for now, currently only one article in the category. No objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:30, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment I found a parent category. Category:Sikhism in Canada, so this might be large enough. Mason (talk) 05:44, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Lean merge. I was able to add two more pages, so if this is merged, it should also be merged to Category:Sikhism in Canada. If it gets to 5, I'd vote keep. Mason (talk) 05:49, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge for now. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:42, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I added a 4th and a 5th and I suspect there are more so keep.--User:Namiba 15:54, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Withdraw nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:31, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Mount Vernon slaves
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 * The result of the discussion was: reverse merge and rename. In other words, delete Category:People who were enslaved by George Washington and rename Category:Mount Vernon slaves to the newly-vacated Category:People who were enslaved by George Washington. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 20:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Mount Vernon slaves to Category:People who were enslaved by George Washington
 * Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. (Probably good to do a reverse merge and then rename given this page has a much longer history) slaves from this location are only defining because Mount Vernon is associated with george washington Mason (talk) 05:26, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Reverse merge and rename the older category to Category:People who were enslaved by George Washington as it would be consistant with Category:People who were enslaved by Presidents of the United States. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:17, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Reverse merge per nom, to the older page, and possibly rename back to the newer name. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:35, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge and use People who were enslaved by George Washington.--User:Namiba 14:21, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Slaves at Monticello
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People who were enslaved by Thomas Jefferson. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 20:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Slaves at Monticello to Category:People who were enslaved by Thomas Jefferson
 * Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category, slaves from this location are only defining because monticello is associated with thomas jefferson Mason (talk) 05:24, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:19, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:35, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Jewish humanists
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Category:Uzbekistani secularists
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 20:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting uzbekistani secularists
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. Only member of the category is politicians from a political group Justice Social Democratic Party, secularism isn't mentioned on the page of the group or on the single member of the page. Mason (talk) 03:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Also, more fundamentally, I wonder what a secularist is. Based on a quick scan of some articles it seems that it more or less coincides with Category:Critics of religions. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:05, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I couldn't really figure it out either (but to be honest, I didn't try very hard) Mason (talk) 05:28, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Sikh organisations by country
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Sikh organisations. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 20:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Sikh organisations by country to Category:Sikh organisations
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only two categories in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 02:23, 18 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:05, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 11:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


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