Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 19

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Category:Worms (series)

 * Propose deleting worms (series)
 * Nominator's rationale: I couldn't just wait to delete it. I already moved all the subcategories to the other one. "Worms (series)" LITTERALLY only contains the main topic article, you will have to rename "Worms (series) games" to "Worms (series)" after. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 20:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * which "other one" do you mean? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I meant the Category:Worms (series) games QuantumFoam66 (talk) 14:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I edited your reply so that it links to the category page. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:42, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support This should go so that the subcategory can be moved to this place. However, you're not allowed to remove ongoing discussion notices from categories, that short-circuits the process and is a WP:SUPERVOTE. Please do not do that, or you will face a block for disruptive editing. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:05, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support, redundant category layer. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:42, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Games by genre

 * Propose renaming Category:Games by genre to Category:Games by theme
 * Propose renaming Category:Board games by genre to Category:Board games by theme
 * Propose renaming Category:Role-playing games by genre to Category:Role-playing games by theme
 * Nominator's rationale: The categories for non-electronic games only consider "genres" as games by a certain topic and not by their mechanics or structure, unlike the video games by genre category. Perhaps we could rename all these categories to be analogous with the video game genres category. But we might need to rename "Games by type" to "Games by genre" in turn. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 20:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in Nakhchivan

 * Propose merging Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in Nakhchivan to Category:Buildings and structures in the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Armenian buildings in Azerbaijan

 * Propose deleting armenian buildings in azerbaijan
 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:NPOV, this resembles Category:Buildings and structures in the Republic of Artsakh that was just deleted. Note that three articles are in Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in Azerbaijan which is not a problematic category because it refers to denomination rather than to country/nationality. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:52, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 *  Keep . I created this following Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_October_2, where there was consensus to change from "Fooian architecture" to "Architecture in Foo"; the main focus of that discussion was whether to allow (and how to name) categories like this, where there were significant numbers of cases of diaspora architecture other than . This one has a larger sibling Category:Armenian buildings in Turkey, and both of them have see-also links to/from each other and . Deleting it would be detrimental to the encyclopedia as Togh's Melikian Palace would be removed from Armenia-related architecture categories, although it would remain within . – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: the contents have nw been restructured into 2 subcats for churches and monasteries, with only the palace article held directly in the category. – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Armenian buildings and structures in Azerbaijan to include Armenian cemetery in Julfa. – Fayenatic  L ondon 07:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * If kept, I support the rename per WP:C2C. After renaming, We Are Our Mountains may be moved from Category:Culture of Armenia to this category too. But I am still not sure whether the category should be kept because how would we objectively define a building to have a different nationality? Marcocapelle (talk) 08:05, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Racially motivated violence against white people in Africa

 * Propose deleting racially motivated violence against white people in africa
 * Nominator's rationale: Most of these articles are about anti-colonial or anti-settler violence. They cannot and should not be conflated with racially motivated violence in other contexts. User:Namiba 16:32, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment, while this might be a reason to rename the category I can't see why we would delete the category on this ground. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:59, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Professional wrestling in Cleveland

 * Propose deleting professional wrestling in cleveland
 * Nominator's rationale: An unnecessary category as all articles are in Category:Professional wrestling shows in Cleveland User:Namiba 16:23, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete, per nom, redundant category layer. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:05, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Flags of Manchukuo

 * Propose merging Category:Flags of Manchukuo to Category:Obsolete national flags
 * Nominator's rationale: Category contains only one page and is unlikely to have a scope broader than that one page. Recon  rabbit  13:28, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Dual merge, also to Category:Manchukuo. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:15, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Mathrubhumi Film Award winners

 * Propose deleting mathrubhumi film award winners
 * Nominator's rationale: This alleged award is mentioned in only two of the articles in this category. Neither mention cites a reliable source. I find no English-language evidence that this award exists. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:22, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Deaths from diabetes

 * Option A: rename Category:Deaths from diabetes to Category:Diabetes-related deaths as deaths are usually not directly caused by diabetes itself but rather by complications related to diabetes.
 * Option B: delete Category:Deaths from diabetes as a too indiscriminate characteristic. We do not even have Category:People with diabetes.
 * Once there is sufficient initial support for option A or B I will add the subcategories to the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:23, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support A option because the deaths are usually from complications. I Oppose B's reasoning. You can have a cause of death that is defining, even if the category of people with the condition isn't. See Category:Deaths from poliomyelitis(defining), Category:People with polio (non-defining), and Category:Polio survivors(defining).Mason (talk) 14:32, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Ape Escape games

 * Propose merge
 * Merge Category:Ape Escape games into Category:Ape Escape
 * Nominator's rationale Parent category is too small in scope to warrant a subcategory, I believe it should be merged but it might be fiercely contested. MimirIsSmart (talk) 08:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose, this merge would remove the content from the other current parent categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:27, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment But I can just move all subcategories in "Ape Escape games" to "Ape Escape" first, then wait for deletion. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 20:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Ape Escape is about the franchise, it does not belong in the video games tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:21, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Do not merge, as there is a significant amount of non-video game content in the franchise. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 20:47, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Racially motivated violence against Europeans

 * Propose renaming:
 * Category:Racially motivated violence against white Europeans to Category:Racially motivated violence against white people in Europe
 * Category:Racially motivated violence against black Europeans to Category:Racially motivated violence against black people in Europe
 * Nominator's rationale: The first of these categories formerly included violence against white colonialists in Asia or the Americas, which isn't really comparable to anti-white attacks in Europe. I felt that (following the example of Category:Racially motivated violence against white people in Africa that it was more appropriate to subcategorize by location of the attacks, rather than by the origin of the victims.


 * In addition, these categories already seems to be subcategories of Category:Racially motivated violence in Europe, strengthening the case that they ought to be subcategories by location. GCarty (talk) 07:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support in spirit, but instead of white people/black people. It should be Category:Racially motivated violence in CONTINENT against people of African descent to make it clearer that the location and descent are easier to distinguish. Mason (talk) 14:36, 21 July 2024 (UTC)