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Religion in China Redux
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Category:Colonial Puerto Rico

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 01:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Colonial Puerto Rico to Category:Spanish Puerto Rico
 * Propose renaming Category:People from Colonial Puerto Rico to Category:People from Spanish Puerto Rico
 * Nominator's rationale: rename in accordance with the category description, it only refers to the Spanish colonial period, not to the American period which can (especially in the beginning) can be regarded as colonial too. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Hijacked journals
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Category:Hieronymus Praetorius scholars

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 01:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting hieronymus praetorius scholars
 * Nominator's rationale: This cat was created with the sole purpose of being added to the categories of musicologist Jeffery T. Kite-Powell (same user created the cat & expanded the Kite-Powell article). I'm afraid that Hieronymus Praetorius is so impossibly niche that there are probably less than three "Hieronymus Praetorius scholars" in human history.  Aza24  (talk)   19:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:48, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Tracker musicians

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 00:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  11:15, 23 June 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Also tagging Chiptune musicians. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Chiptune and tracker musicians. House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 01:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Tracker musicians to Category:Chiptune musicians
 * Added on 2 July relisting:
 * Propose renaming and redirecting Category:Chiptune musicians to Category:Chiptune and tracker musicians
 * Nominator's rationale: Tracker software is commonly used to create chiptunes, such that there is a very significant overlap between the two categories. Given the mostly overlapping and duplicative nature of the categories, a merge seems warranted. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:13, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose Yes, there is some overlap, but a tracker does not imply chiptune, and not all chiptunes made with a tracker. Also, "tracker" is strictly a type of music software, while "chiptune" is also considered a genre of music.  If it makes sense to merge them into a single Category:Chiptune and tracker musicians, I'd be fine with that. Or maybe by platform, e.g. Nintendo musicians, Amiga musicians, etc. --Vossanova o&lt; 01:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That is preferable to the status quo, so I am fine with that too if people disagree there is an overlap. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:04, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:WikiProject assessment categories needing attention
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Category:MEPs from Italy 2024–2029

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete. CSD G7 Liz Read! Talk! 18:09, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting meps from italy 2024–2029
 * Nominator's rationale: Created by self in error. PatGallacher (talk) 17:04, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


 * could you please tag the page as WP:G7? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


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Category:2024 in professional wrestling in Massachusetts

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 01:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:2024 in professional wrestling in Massachusetts to Category:2024 in professional wrestling
 * Nominator's rationale: Only 1 article. The sole article is already in Category:2024 in Boston so no further merging is needed. User:Namiba 16:36, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge, this is not helpful for navigation and there are no sibling categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Patrons of Romantic artists

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 01:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Patrons of Romantic artists to Category:Patrons of the arts
 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category. People are patrons of whatever era of artists they happen to be alive during Mason (talk) 12:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Just delete after I added the article to Category:German patrons of the arts. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's employers and patrons

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 01:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's employers and patrons to Category:Patrons of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
 * Propose renaming Category:Haydn's patrons to Category:Patrons of Joseph Haydn
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename the cat to make what's happening a tad clearer. We tend to avoid possessives Mason (talk) 12:17, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support More natural, shorter, and consistent with the rest of the tree. –LaundryPizza<b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 03:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Ham II (talk) 20:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Destroyed Hindu temples
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 01:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Destroyed Hindu temples to Category:Destroyed temples
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom Mason (talk) 12:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Military history of Australia during the Korean War
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 01:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Military history of Australia during the Korean War to Category:Australia in the Korean War
 * Propose merging Category:Military history of France during the Korean War to Category:France in the Korean War
 * Propose merging Category:Military history of the United Kingdom during the Korean War to Category:United Kingdom in the Korean War
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer, the parent category of each is nearly empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support per nom Mason (talk) 12:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom Bduke (talk) 04:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC)


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Category:National military histories by war
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Category:Beauty pageant controversies
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 * The result of the discussion was: purge biographies with no consensus on whether this category should continue to exist. House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 01:01, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting beauty pageant controversies
 * Nominator's rationale: Most of the contents of this category are people, not events. Describing people as "controversies" simply because they've attracted some sort of negative media attention during their career - or, in some cases, for no evident reason at all - seems inappropriate and potentially a BLP concern. Omphalographer (talk) 04:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Thoughts on purging? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 00:41, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Heavily purge, there are four articles that may stay here. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:01, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Well I favour purging, but 4 items is barely viable for a category, although there is no absolute minimum. NLeeuw (talk) 04:24, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: I am going to relist a further time, but my current thoughts on consensus is that everyone in this discussion agrees that BLPs should not be in the category – the real debate is whether those four pages should be in the category. That is a long way of saying: if there is no further participation in a week, I would personally close this as purge with not consensus on whether the category should exist or not.. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 01:44, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree with Omphalographer that there are WP:BLP concerns here, especially as the "controversies" tend to be storms in teacups that were overblown by the tabloid press (Helen Morgan being a case in point). If we purge, I assume one of the four will be Sexualization in child beauty pageants? I think a subject like that is far too serious to be trivialised by association with a category like this; its other four categories are appropriate. PearlyGigs (talk) 06:53, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The four candidates I see are Miss USA 2009 same-sex marriage controversy, Mrs. Sri Lanka 2021 controversy, Sexualization in child beauty pageants, and Vanessa Williams and Miss America. The first two of those are perhaps "storms in teacups" themselves, but that's a matter for another discussion. Omphalographer (talk) 04:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Timelines of video games
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 01:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting timelines of video games
 * Nominator's rationale: This category has become redundant. Judging by the titles of articles, none of them are "Timelines", except for a single article that is "Timeline of arcade video games", so if we categorized stuff correctly, we would get a category with only one article. It also overlaps almost entirely with the other category "Video game lists by genre".

The Persian and Malay versions of this category only have subcats btw, which isn't a good thing. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support in principle, per nom, but manually merge to Category:Video game lists. Most articles are already in e.g. Category:Video game lists by genre but not all. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:00, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I already removed the only two articles like that from this category. Now it definitely is just an irrelevant overlapping category. So.... QuantumFoam66 (talk) 05:10, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * You should have waited until the closure of the discussion. If for some reason the category is kept you will need to move the two articles back. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:41, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per QuantumFoam66. Of the articles they removed, Timeline of arcade video game history is the only one that is a timeline, and List of games using procedural generation is in Category:Video game lists by technology or feature. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 03:24, 3 July 2024 (UTC)


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