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Category:PFK Nurafshon players

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge both to Category:FC Bukhara players. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 22:59, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:PFK Nurafshon players to Category:Buxoro FK players
 * Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category for the outdated name of the same football club. BlameRuiner (talk) 08:27, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: I will tag Category:Buxoro FK players. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 22:05, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 12:00, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose as suggested, and instead both categories should be merged to per CFDS C2D, as that is the location of the parent article. GiantSnowman 12:01, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support GiantSnowman's proposal. --BlameRuiner (talk) 23:40, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Oppose and support GiantSnowman's proposal. SportingFlyer  T · C  08:51, 5 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Victims

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 23:03, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Victims to Category:Victims by event
 * Propose renaming Category:Survivors to Category:Survivors by event
 * Nominator's rationale: Calling it this risks going into WP:SHAREDNAME territory. It's best to make it a pure container category and purge what does not apply. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:29, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose I don't see the problem. They are already containercats. I do see a problem with moving. NLeeuw (talk) 07:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose I also don't see a problem here. SportingFlyer  T · C  08:51, 5 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional convicts transported to Australia

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 * The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:Fictional British criminals and Category:Fictional prisoners and detainees. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 23:03, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional convicts transported to Australia to Category:Fictional prisoners and detainees
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT, too specific to be necessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:11, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge, only two articles is not helpful for navigation. At least merge to Category:Fictional British criminals, maybe also to Category:Fictional prisoners and detainees. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:25, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom Mason (talk) 01:40, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per Marcocapelle. (I added one more page to category.) Goustien (talk) 21:22, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional penal labourers

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 23:04, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional penal labourers to Category:Fictional prisoners and detainees
 * Nominator's rationale: Made by blocked account, far too specific to be necessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Just delete, the only article is already in Category:Fictional prison escapees. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:28, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional prisoners and detainees
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 8%23Category:Fictional prisoners and detainees

Category:Indoor ice hockey venues
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 * The result of the discussion was:  rename all merge  (non-admin closure)  Toadette Edit! 21:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues to Category:Ice hockey venues
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Armenia to Category:Ice hockey venues in Armenia
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Austria to Category:Ice hockey venues in Austria
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Bosnia and Herzegovina to Category:Ice hockey venues in Bosnia and Herzegovina
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Bulgaria to Category:Ice hockey venues in Bulgaria
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Canada to Category:Ice hockey venues in Canada
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in British Columbia to Category:Ice hockey venues in British Columbia
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Ontario to Category:Ice hockey venues in Ontario
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Quebec to Category:Ice hockey venues in Quebec
 * Propose renaming Category:Defunct indoor ice hockey venues in Canada to Category:Defunct ice hockey venues in Canada
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Croatia to Category:Ice hockey venues in Croatia
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in the Czech Republic to Category:Ice hockey venues in the Czech Republic
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Denmark to Category:Ice hockey venues in Denmark
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Estonia to Category:Ice hockey venues in Estonia
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Finland to Category:Ice hockey venues in Finland
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in France to Category:Ice hockey venues in France
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Greece to Category:Ice hockey venues in Greece
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Hungary to Category:Ice hockey venues in Hungary
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Ireland to Category:Ice hockey venues in Ireland
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Italy to Category:Ice hockey venues in Italy
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Japan to Category:Ice hockey venues in Japan
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Kazakhstan to Category:Ice hockey venues in Kazakhstan
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Latvia to Category:Ice hockey venues in Latvia
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Lithuania to Category:Ice hockey venues in Lithuania
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in the Netherlands to Category:Ice hockey venues in the Netherlands
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in New Zealand to Category:Ice hockey venues in New Zealand
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Norway to Category:Ice hockey venues in Norway
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Poland to Category:Ice hockey venues in Poland
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Romania to Category:Ice hockey venues in Romania
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Russia to Category:Ice hockey venues in Russia
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Serbia to Category:Ice hockey venues in Serbia
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Slovakia to Category:Ice hockey venues in Slovakia
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Slovenia to Category:Ice hockey venues in Slovenia
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Spain to Category:Ice hockey venues in Spain
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Sweden to Category:Ice hockey venues in Sweden
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Switzerland to Category:Ice hockey venues in Switzerland
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in the United Kingdom to Category:Ice hockey venues in the United Kingdom
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in England to Category:Ice hockey venues in England
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Scotland to Category:Ice hockey venues in Scotland
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Wales to Category:Ice hockey venues in Wales
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in the United States to Category:Ice hockey venues in the United States
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in the United States by populated place to Category:Ice hockey venues in the United States by populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Chicago to Category:Ice hockey venues in Chicago
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Detroit to Category:Ice hockey venues in Detroit
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Los Angeles to Category:Ice hockey venues in Los Angeles
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Minneapolis to Category:Ice hockey venues in Minneapolis
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in New York City to Category:Ice hockey venues in New York City
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Saint Paul, Minnesota to Category:Ice hockey venues in Saint Paul, Minnesota
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Washington, D.C. to Category:Ice hockey venues in Washington, D.C.
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in the United States by state to Category:Ice hockey venues in the United States by state
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Alabama to Category:Ice hockey venues in Alabama
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Alaska to Category:Ice hockey venues in Alaska
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in California to Category:Ice hockey venues in California
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Colorado to Category:Ice hockey venues in Colorado
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Florida to Category:Ice hockey venues in Florida
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Illinois to Category:Ice hockey venues in Illinois
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Kansas to Category:Ice hockey venues in Kansas
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Louisiana to Category:Ice hockey venues in Louisiana
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Maine to Category:Ice hockey venues in Maine
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Maryland to Category:Ice hockey venues in Maryland
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Massachusetts to Category:Ice hockey venues in Massachusetts
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Michigan to Category:Ice hockey venues in Michigan
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Minnesota to Category:Ice hockey venues in Minnesota
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Missouri to Category:Ice hockey venues in Missouri
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Montana to Category:Ice hockey venues in Montana
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in New York (state) to Category:Ice hockey venues in New York (state)
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Ohio to Category:Ice hockey venues in Ohio
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Pennsylvania to Category:Ice hockey venues in Pennsylvania
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Wisconsin to Category:Ice hockey venues in Wisconsin
 * Propose renaming Category:Indoor ice hockey venues in Wyoming to Category:Ice hockey venues in Wyoming
 * Nominator's rationale: The overwhelming number of venues defined by being a venue for ice hockey are indoors so this distinction is unnecessary. While outdoor stadiums are occasionally used as venues, they are not defined by hosting an occasional ice hockey event. User:Namiba 17:04, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Strong support per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:08, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * no objection PensRule11385 (talk) 17:45, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * One note I'll make is that Category:Defunct indoor ice hockey venues in Canada should be renamed to Category:Former ice hockey venues in Canada per Category:Former ice hockey venues. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:07, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * No opposition to that suggestion but there are a whole bunch of similarly named categories which also need to be renamed Category:Defunct indoor ice hockey venues in the United States etc.--User:Namiba 15:44, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * do you mean merge? The target categories all already exist, except for Category:Defunct ice hockey venues in Canada/Category:Former ice hockey venues in Canada. I also support the nomination as a merge nomination, but believe the rename of Category:Defunct indoor ice hockey venues in Canada should be to Category:Defunct ice hockey venues in Canada. Category:Former ice hockey venues is itself in Category:Defunct sports venues, so I think it is the "former" convention that needs changing. <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:13, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * this discussion has been stalled for a while. Are you guys okay with a merge? House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 20:53, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. I think merge/rename is very reasonable. Mason (talk) 22:18, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't see the difference between renaming and merging but I am fine with either.--User:Namiba 14:20, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * As I sad before, I have no objection. Merging or not doesn't matter to me so long as what we have is consistent. PensRule11385 (talk) 15:31, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: What about outdoor venues? Any categories? 58.152.55.172 (talk) 09:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Can you point to outdoor venues which are defined by being a venue for ice hockey?--User:Namiba 19:32, 21 April 2024 (UTC)


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Category:National Hockey League first-round draft picks
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:36, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting national hockey league first-round draft picks
 * Nominator's rationale: The round in which a player is selected in a draft is a non-defininig and trivial characteristic. The most recent discussion on this category drew no participants in 2022. User:Namiba 15:54, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. None of the other U.S. sports leagues seem to have this category. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:32, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * Keep The category has been around from 2006, and being a first-round draft pick is defining. SportingFlyer  T · C  23:14, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @SportingFlyer, I'd say it isn't that defining. Most of these players are defined by the team and what amount of success they have had, not which round they were drafted in. A large number first draft picks (regardless of sport) don't make it big. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:24, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I still disagree - it doesn't mean you're a star, but it can and does define how people view your career. I don't think it's necessarily the case that it is defining for every single sport but I think it is for hockey. SportingFlyer  T · C  15:37, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: Being a first-round draft pick in a major sports league is a defining quality and one that's often discussed in coverage. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. First overall draft picks are defining. However, other first-round draft picks are not primarily known for this fact several years into their career. It should be elaborated upon in the article of course, but not made into a category. Place Clichy (talk) 00:49, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Hey man im josh. Success or a lack of it is often noted in tandem when the player was drafted, especially for first-round picks. Let&#39;srun (talk) 18:50, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Listify by team per Category:Major League Baseball first-round draft picks. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:11, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak delete / Listify, reasonable arguments for it being an important distinction from other draft rounds - but is probably more suitable as a list (which probably already exists?... hmm, doesn't seem to, but would be fairly easy to compile from the year draft articles) and could be linked to for each player via 'See also' or similar if too awkward to insert naturally into body of article. Crowsus (talk) 23:31, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. First round draft picks are not defining of a player's career. However, a first overall pick is defining as per significant coverage. Flibirigit (talk) 13:01, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per SportingFlyer and Josh. 58.152.55.172 (talk) 08:17, 3 April 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedia categories named after schools in Bangladesh
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:16, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Bogra District
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Comilla District
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Dhaka
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Dinajpur District, Bangladesh
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Faridpur District
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Jamalpur District
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Jessore District
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Khulna District
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Kushtia District
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Mymensingh District
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Noakhali District
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Pabna District
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Dhaka
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Rangpur District
 * Propose merging category to Category:Schools in Dhaka
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Propose deleting category
 * Nominator's rationale: All contain only an eponymous article and alumni category. All alumni categories are in . –Aidan721 (talk) 17:01, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:07, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. SportingFlyer  T · C  23:39, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Bduke (talk) 02:37, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge/delete as per nom. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 11:16, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


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Archelaus I of Macedon
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:18, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Archelaus of Macedon
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Courtiers of Archelaus of Macedon‎
 * Propose renaming category to Category:Artists of Archelaus of Macedon‎
 * Nominator's rationale: The main article has been moved to Archelaus of Macedon following a technical request, Special:Permalink/1207061825 with the following rationale: Remove unnecessary parentheses/disambiguator: There is no Archelaus II (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Archelaus_II_of_Macedon), consequently the regnal number for this page is unnecessary. Also, the majority of modern historians do not assign a number to Archelaus. – robertsky (talk) 22:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * In article Aeropus II of Macedon, User:Srnec inserted: "as king, he took the name of Archelaus". It is not clear whether he was called Archelaus II. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:52, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Comment: it's likely that the distinction is one used by modern historians, not ancient ones. However, even if only a minority of scholars use "Archelaus I" and "Archelaus II", or the distinction is made only occasionally, due to "Archelaus II" being better known as "Aeropus II", the distinction is useful when context is unavailable—as it is for the titles of categories, which necessarily can't indicate which of two kings called "Archelaus" are intended, or whether both are included.  If you have to visit the category or its contents in order to find that out, then perhaps the title isn't clear enough.  So the current names may be preferable.  It may be worth revisiting the move of "Archelaus I" to "Archelaus", but that's a separate discussion.  P Aculeius (talk) 13:04, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename as nominated for now. The categories can always be renamed again, but given nobody has formally objected to the rename of the article this seems like a fairly clear C2D case. <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 01:22, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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 * Rename per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:44, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Egyptian cricketers
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. This is a no consensus close if there ever was one: delete, rename, keep, purge are all over the map. A specific rename proposal might have the ability to gain consensus. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting egyptian cricketers
 * Nominator's rationale: This category doesn't make any sense! It is a nationality category, yet none of those populating this category were Egyptian. They are all British officials who happened to play for a scratch team representative of Egypt. So can we keep the category as a team category? Not really, as we don't categorise teams who played minor matches (the Egyptian team played no first-class matches). So it makes little sense to keep this category, as it is misleading. AA (talk) 14:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep. There is little ambiguity that these were players of a representative team called Egypt in the British colonial cricket system. However, there was also a "Western" population in Egypt for many decades (many centuries in the case of Greeks and Italians), and it is borderline to retroactively consider that these people did not exist or that they were not Egyptian''. Place Clichy (talk) 15:35, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * At second glance, the main article is indeed clear that few players on this team were actually from the local British population and that most were military on relatively short postings there. A renaming to would probably work better. Place Clichy (talk) 23:30, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete the relevant articles can simply link to Egypt national cricket team if their match is worth mentioning at all. Expatriates in Foo are as a rule not Fooian. jnestorius(talk) 16:57, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete they are not Egyptian, even if playing for an Egyptian team. Also the Egyptian team was a minor team, and so it's WP:NOTDEFINING for most of them anyway. If kept, should be renamed to e.g. or . <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 17:36, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep/purge. Nationality is a defining feature for individuals. If not kept, the category needs to be manually merged to Egyptian sportspeople etc. Mason (talk) 20:58, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * They're not Egyptian though. They're British people who played for an Egyptian team (at the time when Egypt was a British colony). And so they shouldn't be upmerged to Egyptian sportspeople category. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 13:11, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Good point, so it sounds like manual merging would need to happen regardless Mason (talk) 14:56, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * Perhaps rename to Category:British cricketers for Egypt. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:31, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The counter is that AA previously wrote So can we keep the category as a team category? Not really, as we don't categorise teams who played minor matches. Compare and contrast Europeans cricket team, which played some First-class cricket whereas Egypt never did. (Category:Europeans cricketers ⊂ Category:Players in Indian domestic cricket by team ⊂ Category:Indian cricketers. If categories were always transitive the implication would be that Europeans players had Indian nationality, which is false; fortunately, categories are not always transitive). OTOH I can't find where in WikiProject Cricket it says "we don't categorise teams who played minor matches". WikiProject Cricket/Notability mentions first class matches for notability but does not regard categorisation. jnestorius(talk) 20:21, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's common for players today to play for countries that aren't of their birth. Desertarun (talk) 00:27, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * But they do obtain citizenship of that country in order to play, through either a relative (Kevin Pietersen - English mother), or by moving there and qualifying through residency. These guys were all there on a short-term basis acting for the British state. They were never Egyptian subjects. AA (talk) 14:36, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Different times have different rules. Desertarun (talk) 17:10, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Which is why they should be treated differently. Kevin Pietersen is a British citizen, but most if not all of the people in this category for people from 19th century Britain were not naturalised Egyptian citizens. So listing them as Egyptian cricketers when they are not Egyptians is wrong. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 17:29, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That's my point, in the past nationality was much more fluid. So imposing our current nationality rules onto previous generations is nonsensical. When they played for the Egypt team they were Egyptian. Desertarun (talk) 19:05, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * In this time (1st half of the 20th century), Egypt had a significant local British population. I don't think that they had any kind of Egyptian citizenship comparable to that of autochtonous Egyptians, but rather were considered British subjects in another corner of the Empire. Place Clichy (talk) 14:47, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep These cricketers appeared for the Egyptian national cricket team even if they were not of Egyptian nationality. Probably needs to be renamed to be more specific, but it's a valid quirk in the larger categorisation scheme. SportingFlyer  T · C  21:40, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Syrian Turkmens
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Category:Educational institutions in Koyra Upazila
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Educational institutions in Koyra Upazila to Category:Koyra Upazila
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. A dual merge is not needed since both pages are in . –Aidan721 (talk) 15:12, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:13, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Artificial neural networks
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus for renaming this category, but there was consensus that this category should be named after the article. Therefore, I will (as a procedural action) open a RM at Talk:Neural network (machine learning) and ping the relevant participants (including those from the discussion at Talk:Neural network (biology)). (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:25, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Artificial neural networks to Category:Neural network (machine learning)
 * Nominator's rationale: Artificial neural network has been moved to Neural network (machine learning), so the category should move to match. Also, if I'm not mistaken the title should be singular since this is articles related to the concept of neural networks and not articles about specific neural networks. Justin Kunimune (talk) 14:36, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose and move Neural network (machine learning) back to Artificial neural network. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:30, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose and move Neural network (machine learning) back to Artificial neural network (short ANN). This is the proper name. search, Quote: "...Most folks consider Artificial Neural Networks synonymous with Neural Networks. However, both aren’t one and the same. Instead, an ANN is a type of Neural Network....", scholar search.  --Glenn (talk) 15:45, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment For moving the article back, I think the article talk page is the best place to discuss. The original move discussion took place at Talk:Neural network (biology), though we didn't ping the related talk pages, and I apologize for that.  But it seems clear to me that the category name should match the article name.  Would you mind opening a discussion on the article talk page if that's your only opposition to this category move? Justin Kunimune (talk) 22:51, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Neural circuits
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Female political office-holders
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:18, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Female political office-holders to Category:Women political office-holders
 * Propose renaming Category:Female governors-general to Category:Women governors-general
 * Propose renaming Category:Female heads of government to Category:Women heads of government
 * Propose renaming Category:Female heads of government by country to Category:Women heads of government by country
 * Propose renaming Category:Female heads of government in New Zealand to Category:Women heads of government in New Zealand
 * Propose renaming Category:Female heads of government in Poland to Category:Women heads of government in Poland
 * Propose renaming Category:Female heads of government in the United Kingdom to Category:Women heads of government in the United Kingdom
 * Propose renaming Category:Female heads of state to Category:Women heads of state
 * Propose renaming Category:Female regents to Category:Women regents
 * Propose renaming Category:Female regents in Africa to Category:Women regents in Africa
 * Propose renaming Category:German female regents to Category:German women regents
 * Propose renaming Category:Female foreign ministers to Category:Women foreign ministers
 * Propose renaming Category:Lists of female state governors to Category:Lists of women state governors
 * Propose renaming Category:Female satraps to Category:Women satraps
 * Nominator's rationale: rename for consistency. By far most subcategories in this tree use "women" but there are also still a few using "female", especially in the top of the tree. This is follow-up on this earlier discussion in which merging in opposite direction was successfully opposed. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:17, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose There is still no consensus on whether to prefer "women" or "female" as an adjective in catnames. The fact that a proposal to rename a random sampling of catnames from "women" to "female" was rejected, does not mean that all of the sudden "women" has now definitively won the argument for all of eternity. ;) NLeeuw (talk) 22:00, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It seems pretty pointless to keep a majority of categories with "women" and a random minority with "female". Once there is a clear consensus for a certain direction (and it seems there is) we harmonize all. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:07, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It seems pretty pointless to keep trying to harmonise something that we seem to almost perpetually disagree on. XD Harmonisation for the sake of harmonisation when no compelling argument in favour of one or the other is emerging is a waste of time. NLeeuw (talk) 23:22, 4 March 2024 (UTC)


 * pinging all contributors to the previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:23, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Majority of categories are "Women" so it makes sense to make all of them the same. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:45, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose I agree with NLeeuw's comment that just because consensus on the previous discussion was made to not move to "female", it does not mean that "women" has "won".
 * I've been thinking about this for a few months now and have come to the opinion that neither "women" nor "female" should be given precendence. I resonate with scribblingwoman's comment from the last discussion, that In my Google Ngram analysis in the previous discussion we learnt that there is no consistency. Some occupations use "women" more, and others use "female" more.
 * I'd like to bring attention to British English. In British English, both "grey" and "gray" and "organisation" and "organization" are acceptable spellings. It is inconsistent and we do not give precedence to one spelling. I think we should do the same here and accept both "women" and "female". We accept both "color" and "colour" so why can't we accept both "women" and "female"? —<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">Panamitsu (talk) 09:54, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Neutral I was pinged, thus I am responding. My personal preference, based upon decades of discussions in women's studies courses about word usage and power dynamics, would be to change them to women. I say this especially in regard to politics where power disparities are significantly weighted against women and women candidates are often portrayed with disparaging language. That said, based on the historical analysis of the uses of woman vs female in the previous discussion, there is no consensus between writers, media houses, or dictionaries for use of one word over the other; thus no logic for categories to be renamed to choose one word over another. I am inclined to agree that uniformity doesn't necessarily need to override custom, and WP has not in the past simply standardized for the sake of harmony, i.e. Category:X University alumni vs Category:Alumni of X University. Inconsistency is neither a good or bad thing. SusunW (talk) 14:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose It's essentially a case-by-case basis. There isn't a good enough argument to move based on common usage, as opposed to "they should all be one thing" which is not the case. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:54, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Neutral, per . I, too, was pinged. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:47, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional prison escapees
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Category:Iraqi coppersmiths
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/rename as nominated. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:33, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Iraqi coppersmiths to Category:Iraqi metalsmiths
 * Propose merging Category:Iraqi silversmiths to Category:Iraqi metalsmiths and Category:Silversmiths
 * Propose merging Category:Iraqi goldsmiths to Category:Iraqi metalsmiths and Category:Goldsmiths
 * Nominator's rationale: Because these categories are so small, I suggest renaming coppersmiths to the parent category (Iraqi metalsmiths) and merging. Mason (talk) 14:04, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Too narrow an intersection. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:16, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Tolkien fandom
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. No prejudice against nominating Category:Tolkien societies for deletion. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:36, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting tolkien fandom
 * Nominator's rationale: No clear scope. A mix of biographical and non-biographical articles against WP:COPSEP, along with a few WP:SHAREDNAME articles, some fanfiction, some WP:OCASSOC, etc, really not sure what is going on here.  Doesn't seem to be WP:DEFINING.  WP:TNT. -- wooden  superman  10:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete, not a defining characteristic, but then re-parent subCategory:Tolkien societies to Category:Reception of J. R. R. Tolkien. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:07, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Actually, there only seem to be two articles in one of which isn't exclusively a Tolkien society.  Do you have any thoughts if that should be deleted too? -- wooden  superman  15:09, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Fair question. I'd say we might delete it as well but add article The Tolkien Society to e.g. Category:Tolkien studies. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:37, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Burmese Rakhine people
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 * Propose renaming Category:Burmese Rakhine people to Category:Rakhine people
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, Rakhine people are naturally living in Myanmar so adding Burmese is redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:52, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Quantum Leap
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Category:Anti-Zionism in South Korea
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:38, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting anti-zionism in south korea
 * Nominator's rationale: Currently empty, but it's because I removed the only two pages that were in it. Neither page had anything in the body to support the idea that they're actively anti-zionist. toobigtokale (talk) 08:28, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Which articles were they? Marcocapelle (talk) 10:13, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The articles were Workers' Solidarity and People's Democracy Party (South Korea). Two political parties in South Korea. My reasoning for the removal was along the lines of WP:CONTENTIOUS. toobigtokale (talk) 04:59, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * toobigtokale, if you emptied the category, which is discouraged, why did you start a week-long discussion at CFD? You could have tagged the category CSD C1. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 17:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I recognize that the removals were discouraged which is why I mentioned them in the nom, but wanted to confirm that the deletion was the right move because the topic itself is sensitive. I had removed the categories before realizing that the category was empty afterwards, and didn't bother undoing the removals in order to begin the deletion nom. In future I can go straight to CSD C1 if that's preferred. toobigtokale (talk) 05:01, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd rather advise to go straight to WP:CFD and (if you emptied the category without realizing that upfront, which may happen indeed) just mention the former articles in your rationale. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:44, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:44, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


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People of Karen descent
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:38, 8 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:American people of Karen descent‎ to Category:People of Karen descent
 * Propose merging Category:Australian people of Karen descent‎ to Category:People of Karen descent
 * Propose merging Category:British people of Karen descent‎ to Category:People of Karen descent
 * Propose merging Category:English people of Karen descent‎ to Category:People of Karen descent
 * Propose merging Category:Chinese people of Karen descent‎ to Category:People of Karen descent
 * Propose merging Category:Macau people of Karen descent‎ to Category:People of Karen descent
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, only one or two articles in each of these categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:23, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Very small categories are not really helpful. Bduke (talk) 02:45, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Karen refugees
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 * Propose merging Category:Karen refugees to Category:Karen history
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:17, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Thai people of Karen descent
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:39, 8 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Thai people of Karen descent to Category:Thai Karen people
 * Nominator's rationale: rename, for the subjects of these articles it is not just that their ancestors were Karen, rather they are Karen people themselves. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. I was recently trying to categorise a Karen person from Thailand, and found this category name a bit of a mismatch for the actual scope. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:39, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Burmese Chin people
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 * Propose merging Category:Burmese Chin people to Category:Chin people
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer since all Chin people are from Myanmar. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:31, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge - not strictly correct rationale, there can theoretically be pages about an Indian Chin or an American Chin person but none currently exist/ those can be subcategories later.  EmeraldRange  (talk/contribs) 14:51, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Chin Leaders
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:39, 8 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting chin leaders
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, only one article in the category, "Chin leader" is not a defining characteristic of it (it concerns a Baptist minister), and the article is already in Category:Burmese Chin people. If kept, rename to Category:Chin leaders. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - agreed with the vague definition of a "leader" per nom.  EmeraldRange  (talk/contribs) 14:52, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:South Korean female idols
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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:55, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:South Korean female idols to Category:South Korean women pop singers
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NARROWCAT & WP:OVERLAPCAT. 98  𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂  04:47, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. But I should point out that this is a broader problem, see Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_November_26. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:32, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Marcocapelle, oh thanks for that, it helps a lot for my understanding. And I had a second thought that I shouldn't nominate this category in the first place.<span id="98Tigerius:1709314206174:WikipediaFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Log/2024_March_1" class="FTTCmt"> 98  𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂  17:30, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I guess then you won't mind a speedy close of this nomination? If you don't mind, I don't mind either. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:47, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Marcocapelle, yeah sure speedy close this nomination. Thanks!<span id="98Tigerius:1709369455470:WikipediaFTTCLNCategories_for_discussion/Log/2024_March_1" class="FTTCmt"> 98  𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂  08:50, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:L'Osservatore Romano
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting l'osservatore romano
 * Nominator's rationale: There is no need to have a category for only one single article. Veverve (talk) 21:59, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: As of relisting, the contents are L'Osservatore Romano and Category:L'Osservatore Romano editors‎ (which itself has three members). Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 04:04, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:27, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment There is now a subcategory. Category:L'Osservatore Romano editors Mason (talk) 21:47, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
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 * The subcategory hasn't been nominated, so we are still talking about a single article. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Marco. NLeeuw (talk) 23:25, 4 March 2024 (UTC)


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Indian superhero films by decade
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Category:17th-century Japanese botanists
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated except not to Category:Chilean botanists. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:42, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merge Category:17th-century Japanese botanists to Category:Japanese botanists and Category:17th-century botanists
 * Propose merge Category:18th-century Chilean botanists to Category:Chilean botanists and Category:18th-century botanists
 * Propose merge Category:18th-century Brazilian botanists to Category:Brazilian botanists and Category:18th-century botanists
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in each of these categories, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 03:07, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Support in principle, per nom, but merging to Category:Chilean botanists and Category:Brazilian botanists is surely redundant because the articles are already in the 19th-century subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:37, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Japanese bands
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:41, 8 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting category
 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant with Category:Japanese musical groups. Xfansd (talk) 02:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi @Xfansd! I am the one who created the category "Japanese Bands". I did try to search for "Japanese Musical Groups", but I believe I typed it wrong and couldn't find it, that's why I created "Japanese Bands". Knowing now that "Japanese Musical Groups", I do believe that "Japanese Bands" should be deleted. I apologize. Macacaosapao (talk) 03:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Merging is not needed because articles are already in a genre subcategory of Category:Japanese musical groups. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as long as we're sure none of these need to be merged. SportingFlyer  T · C  08:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete unnecessary category. --Hatto (talk) 10:40, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Rhodesian diarists
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:42, 8 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose splitting Category:Rhodesian diarists to Category:Rhodesian memoirists and Category:20th-century diarists
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in this category, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 01:44, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:People of Inca royalty descent
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Category:Spanish people of Mapuche descent
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People of Mapuche descent. (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:43, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:Spanish people of Mapuche descent to Category:Spanish people of South American descent and Category:People of Mapuche descent
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in this category, which isn't helpful for navigaiton Mason (talk) 01:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Support in principle, but only merge to Category:People of Mapuche descent because the article is already in Category:Spanish people of Chilean descent. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:53, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Mapuche farmers
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:43, 8 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting mapuche farmers
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. There's only one redirect in here, and it's already in the potential merge targets. Category:21st-century farmers Category:21st-century Mapuche people. Mason (talk) 00:57, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:54, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Mapuche police officers
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:43, 8 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Mapuche police officers to Category:Chilean police officers
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This is a small category of one redirect, which isn't very helpful for navigation. They're already in Category:21st-century_Mapuche_people Mason (talk) 00:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom, also per WP:OCEGRS. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Topical history overviews
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American people by populated place
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to the associated populated place category. <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)


 * '''Propose merging Category:American people by town and state or territory to Category:American people by city and state or territory
 * Nominator's rationale: town category does not have a subcategory for every state, and it seems like both have the same scope.
 * Agree. Bduke (talk) 04:50, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Alternative: merge both to Category:American people by populated place and state or territory. Populated places captures cities, towns and villages. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment, the subcategories by state should also be nominated. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:57, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support alt merge and agree that this may create a mess if the sub-categories are not also nominated. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:19, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * For clarity, do you wish to merge all of the following categories (and their subcats) to the respective populated place categories:
 * Category:American people by census-designated place and state or territory‎
 * Category:American people by city and state or territory‎
 * Category:American people by town and state or territory‎
 * Category:American people by unincorporated community and state or territory‎
 * Category:American people by village and state or territory‎
 * <li style="list-style:none;">Thanks, <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 21:37, 29 February 2024 (UTC) (please ping on reply)
 * Yes, I would merge all (and the subcats) to the respective populated place categories. The status of the place is not a defining characteristic of the people. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:44, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: I will tag all of the subcategories as described above. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 23:46, 29 February 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Relisting twice in a row so that the automated tagging will work (it tags for the current UTC date, and it is a royal pain in the rear to do previous days). This discussion has only been truly relisted once. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <b style="font-family:Courier New;">House Blaster </b> (talk · he/him) 00:01, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Support alter merge per Aiden Mason (talk) 00:23, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Yes, merge all. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:59, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, merge. I hate the term "populated place" but it makes more sense to have these in one category than several different ones. SportingFlyer  T · C  08:35, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge all per Aidan. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:09, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


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