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Category:Montreal Metro artists
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Category:Legendary creatures

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. I don't see clear consensus here for which way to organise these categories. There is not a clear relationship between folklore/lengend/myth. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:30, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Legendary creatures to Category:Folklore creatures
 * Propose merging Category:Legendary characters to Category:Folklore characters
 * Propose merging Category:Legendary people to Category:Folklore people
 * Nominator's rationale: merge or reverse merge, the distinction between legendary and folklore is not clear enough to keep two separate categories. As a mere illustration of the problem, the legendary and folklore category are each other's child and parent category, in all three cases. I have tagged all six categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:46, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * What about the Mythological characters/creatures/people categories? AHI-3000 (talk) 08:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That is quite different. E.g. Greek/Roman mythology, Germanic/Norse mythology and Indian/Hindu mythology are topics in their own right with very clear boundaries. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:50, 29 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep But reverse AHI's edits that messed up the categories. Legends are not folklore and the edits to make them subcategories of each other are manifestly incorrect. I tried to fix it myself at Category:Folklore characters, but he reverted me, so here we are I guess. I wouldn't mind moving the folklore categories to folkloric though. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:27, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Where would you draw the line between folkloric and legendary? Marcocapelle (talk) 16:50, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Legendary creatures are those from tales in the distant past. Examples include the Minotaur, Cyclops, Phoenix, and Scylla and Charybdis. If anything it should be combined with Category:Mythological creatures, as mythological creature redirects to legendary creature.
 * Folkloric creatures are those from rumors in the recent past. Examples are cryptids like Chupacabra, Mothman and Nessie, or supposed fairies and the like. AHI has made the categories into a massive interconnected mess, like putting deities as a subcategory of folklore, but they are provably different things. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:27, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Articles and subcategories in Category:Legendary people are certainly not mythological though. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Legends and mythology are definitely subsets of folklore. There are of course folkloric creatures that are modern and so wouldn't be considered legendary or mythological, but legends and mythology are generally ancient and medieval examples of folklore. MClay1 (talk) 14:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment - We've had several discussions over the years concerning "folklore/legend/myth". There are several issues. But the primary one is that myth can also be religion for some. (Creatures are less of an issue, but people/characters are very much an issue.) So we have to be careful to not mix folklore with myth. The next issue is that "legendary" sits right between folklore and myth. Usage is sometimes for myth and sometimes for folklore. And as we on Wikipedia only report, and not do WP:OR, we're kind of "stuck". Because books may call something "myths and legends" or other things "Legends and folklore", or sometimes a book will have all three and not differentiate which is which. The best solution for our usage, I think, would be to only use myth/mythology and folklore as nouns. For example, the standard in Category:Mythology is X in mythology. And I see similar in Category:Folklore. ("folklore people" is just bad form.) And only using Legend in its adjective form: Legendary, unless paired with one of the other two words. And yes, this will take some cleanup. I'd be happy to help work on it if there is consensus to clean this up. - jc37 02:41, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * That is a very elegant solution. So split legendary to mythological and folkloric. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't mind this either if it would reduce confusion. I just don't think legend should be solely merged into folklore and it should be very clear that they need to be kept separate. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:56, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * Keep but fix the category tree – Legends and mythology are subsets of folklore. Mythology is folklore even if some people believe it as part of their religion (folklore doesn't necessarily imply something is untrue). Folklore is defined by the Cambridge Dictionary as "the traditional stories and culture of a group of people". It's a very broad subject that requires subcategorisation into different forms of folklore, including mythology and legends. The distinction between myth and legend isn't always clear, but there are cases that are clearly one or the other: a cyclops is mythological, a medieval Swedish king that may or may not have existed is legendary. And then there are obviously things in folklore that don't fall under myth or legend. Myth and legend categories should be subcategories of folklore categories, but the categorisation has been messed up. MClay1 (talk) 14:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * If there isn't going to be consensus on merging or splitting then I support the clean-up of the hierarchy as a second best solution. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:03, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I think MClay1 has a good point here. AHI-3000 (talk) 22:07, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Former penal colonies

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep and make Category:Penal colonies the parent. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  13:09, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Former penal colonies to Category:Penal colonies
 * Nominator's rationale: No parent category. The article about Koro Toro in Chad includes a sourced statement describing it as a present-day penal colony. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 06:20, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support renaming AHI-3000 (talk) 09:00, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * Oppose this way, instead just create Category:Penal colonies as a parent category. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:58, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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 * Create Category:Penal colonies and have Category:Former penal colonies as a subcategory per Marco. House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 20:35, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedians in Kaduna

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl  talk  13:08, 24 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Wikipedians in Kaduna to Category:Wikipedians in Kaduna State
 * Nominator's rationale: To avoid confusion with the city of Kaduna. 123957a (talk) 02:30, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * Merge to Category:Wikipedians in Nigeria, there is only one editor in it. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:07, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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 * Merge per Marco. House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 20:47, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:16th-century men by nationality
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 20:35, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:16th-century men by nationality to Category:16th-century men
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. No need to diffuse by nationality, when there's only one category in here Mason (talk) 18:56, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:08, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:48, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:14th-century Chinese male actors
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Category:Star Wars: The Bad Batch episodes
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. I am not sure what Gonnym meant by does so automatically, but this is such a small nomination that I will do it manually. EDIT: Apparently the recategorization is automatically done by Fiction-based redirects to list entries category handler! (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 20:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC); edited 20:43, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting star wars
 * Nominator's rationale: No episode articles so this category is empty. Gonnym (talk) 18:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Support in principle, per nom, but the subcategory should then be re-parented to Category:Star Wars: The Bad Batch. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:28, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Does so automatically. Gonnym (talk) 23:02, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * the bot only does it automatically when the discussion is closed as merge, not when the discussion is closed as delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I did not say bot. Gonnym (talk) 06:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Then who or what does automatically? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:56, 19 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Lapinjärvi (municipality)
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Category:Weird fiction video games
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 02:04, 24 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting weird fiction video games
 * Nominator's rationale: Not a thing whatsoever. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 16:45, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * It is not entirely nonsense, there is also an article Weird fiction, but its definition is not very clear. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:49, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh hey, sorry for the short nomination. Busy day! Weird fiction is a thing, but "weird fiction video games" are not an established concept. I went through the articles, only Control (video game) explicitly is stated as weird fiction, the only other mention of weird fiction is at The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, mentioning that the developer was inspired by it, the game itself is not called that. I was so bold in removing the incorrect categories. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 19:25, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Strong delete Not an established genre, at least not yet. Besides some devs self-describing their games as inspired by weird fiction, there is nothing to put here that isn't pure WP:OR. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:05, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:49, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Yugoslav political writers
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 16:40, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Yugoslav political writers to Category:Yugoslav non-fiction writers
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here Mason (talk) 14:59, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:58, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Writers from the Moldavian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. I don't think further discussion is going to be conducive here. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:24, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:Writers from the Moldavian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic to Category:People from the Moldavian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and Category:20th-century Moldovan writers
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's not enough writers in 20th-century Moldovan writers to justify this level of diffusion Mason (talk) 13:49, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Dual merge, per nom. Besides, this ASSR only lasted 16 years so I wonder if we should category its people at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:15, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The MASSR was entirely contiguous with modern Transnistria, and was therefore entirely outside the much larger Bessarabia, which is the core of Moldovan categories. Thanks to Stalin's Great Purge, the near-entirety of MASSR notabilities (writers, politicians etc.) managed to die before those 16 years ended, making their inclusion simply in Moldovan categories, rather than in a proxy subcategory, a tad anomalous. Let alone that they were also subjects of the Ukrainian SSR (unlike all other Moldovans), which is something neither you nor the nominator seem to have even contemplated. Dahn (talk) 23:38, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The Confederacy only lasted for four years, so the entire Category:Confederate States of America tree is ripe for deletion, methinks. Biruitorul Talk 08:10, 18 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment “not enough” according to whom? — Biruitorul Talk 13:28, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * "According to whom?" What are you really trying to ask here. I think that this are not enough people in the parent category for this to helpful for navigation. Aiding navigation is the purpose of categories. There's four people in the nominated category, compared to 7 in the parent.  Mason (talk) 17:25, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Will a user specifically trying to find the writers active in the MASSR, and nowhere else in Moldova, to 1940, be helped by their being lumped together with Grigore Vieru and hundreds of others of 20th-century Moldovan writers, all of whom never set foot in the MASSR? Is it conceivable that someone interested in the cultural life of a polity that had its capital in Tiraspol, comprising mostly people that wanted to be there because they were staunch communists, will not be served by having no instrument to pick them out from among hundreds of people who were simply born as Romanian or Soviet citizens in Bessarabia, with its capital in Chișinău? Are you aware, for instance, that books or at least chapters of books have been written specifically about this topic, which you claim is irrelevant to categorization? (And yes, before you ask, it is hundreds of others: nobody has yet moved articles from Category:Moldovan writers and its subcategories to the corresponding century category.) Dahn (talk) 23:51, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, I would also be interested to know if your action plan also calls for the removal of categories which will always and for ever have a very small number of articles, such as Category:Nirvana (band) members. What is the scope of Mason's methodology? Dahn (talk) 00:24, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The expansion of Category:Presidents of Eritrea is painfully slow. Biruitorul Talk 07:00, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Though not slower than Category:Emperors of Thessalonica. Dahn (talk) 15:07, 18 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Strong oppose I have to ask: is the nominator aware of the special geographic and political status of the Moldavian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic? For instance, are they aware that the polity in question was a subdivision of the Ukraine, whereas the successor Moldovan republic was entirely outside Ukraine? That this is why the writers in question are also a relevant subdivision of Ukrainian and Transnistrian categories? That this distinction has cultural significance (for instance, the writers in question were supervised by a specialized body in Balta, later Tiraspol)? There are currently four articles in the category, which is plenty to warrant its existence; anyone with some modicum of interest in the topic will know that these are not all articles that would go into it -- existing articles have redlinks to Pavel Chioru, Nistor Cabac, Mihai Andriescu, Ion Canna, Leonid Madan, and Teodor Malai. I personally handled the existing articles (which is also why I feel my contributions are stalked by, who nevertheless did not bother notifying me of this discussion); note how I wrote them from nothing to consistent articles, sourced to academic-level works and newspaper articles -- only so that now I am informed that I should keep on filling all possible redlinks until nominator, who spends much of their time simply on this rather wasteful activity, is perhaps convinced that the categorizing work has merits. Note how not even one objective criterion is being cited for this -- we're on X-Factor or The Apprentice, having to justify our work lest it is simply deleted. Dahn (talk) 23:33, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Pavel Chioru is now bluelinked. Dahn (talk) 11:03, 18 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Also allow me to underscore this: makes it a central argument in their objection that "There's not enough writers in 20th-century Moldovan writers to justify this level of diffusion". However, this statement seems entirely unaware of the fact that whoever created the 20th-century subcategory never bothered diffusing writers out of the supra-Category:Moldovan writers, most of whom are 20th-century writers (this also includes the subcats, adding up to hundreds of articles). This is an additional reason why editors should not start noms until and unless they have had a thorough look at the immediate category tree(s). Ahem. Dahn (talk) 09:10, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose the MASSR was a Soviet creation aimed at influencing Romanian Bessarabia and the first playground of Moldovenism through these writers among others. The MASSR was also the first predecessor of modern Transnistria. These are two different perspectives from which this category can be useful. Dahn has created articles for five such writers which contain redlinks to other five. Ten articles is already a nice number for a category. But as Moldovans/Romanians were only less than a third of the population, I imagine there must be other Ukrainian or Russian (maybe even Jewish) writers from the ASSR with potential for an article. Super   Ψ   Dro  13:25, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Indeed, though note that the category is already multiethnic (including one Jewish writer -- though even he was made to play the part of a Moldavian, for ideological purposes). But yes, presumably there were a few writers among the Moldavian refugees of various backgrounds who made their way into Romania. Dahn (talk) 14:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose, obviously, for the many reasons enumerated above. We are dealing with a distinct polity with a distinct literary culture. — Biruitorul Talk 16:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Martiniquais photographers
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl  talk  19:18, 24 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose splitting Category:Martiniquais photographers to Category:Martiniquais artists and Category:French photographers
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 13:38, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Dual merge per nom. Ideally it should also be merged to Category:Caribbean photographers but that category does not exist. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:21, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Saint Anthony the Great abbeys
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Category:Fictional prisoners and detainees
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:18, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Fictional prisoners and detainees to Category:Fictional prisoners
 * Nominator's rationale: Such a high level of specificity is not required for the fictional category.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:05, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * What about Category:Prisoners and detainees (and all other similarly named subcategories within it)? Should they all follow a similar naming pattern in the style of Category:Prisoners? AHI-3000 (talk) 01:58, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 * After I have spent some time thinking about it, yes. A detainee is a prisoner, no doubt about it. I don't see what the major difference is here. Perhaps they are temporarily being held, but are imprisoned nonetheless. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:03, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * Oppose per parent Category:Prisoners and detainees. Plenty of fiction deals with detainees who are not imprisoned for a crime, just suspect of one. NLeeuw (talk) 07:52, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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 * The category currently contains a mishmash of articles in which prison often plays a limited role. The category may become more useful when its scope is constrained to Category:Characters in prison fiction. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:40, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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 * While I think this renaming proposal makes sense, I think we should start by renaming Category:Prisoners and detainees and all of its similarly named subcategories first. AHI-3000 (talk) 20:34, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional prison escapees
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 * The result of the discussion was: purge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  20:15, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Fictional prison escapees to Category:Fictional fugitives
 * Nominator's rationale: There's too much overlap between fugitives and prison escapees. While prison escapees was the older category, I'm not sure it matters where they escaped from, just that they're a fugitive. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:14, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose merger. There's a significant distinction between a suspected criminal fleeing to avoid prosecution and imprisonment, and a convicted prisoner escaping from incarceration. I think a better idea would be to keep both categories, while selectively purging articles from them; any character who escaped from jail should stay in Category:Fictional prison escapees, but remove them from Category:Fictional fugitives to avoid too much redundant overlap. AHI-3000 (talk) 02:04, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose merger. I agree with AHI-3000 that purging categories so they aren't redundant (basically, treat it as a diffusing category rather than a non-diffusing category?) is the better next step, rather than wholesale merging. Prison escapee is a prolific enough character trope, and sufficiently different from being a fugitive in general. Edmond Dantès's escape from the Château d'If involves a much different story than Zuko being on the run from the Fire Nation. P-Makoto (she/her) (talk) 01:40, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Purge? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  12:57, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, a well-populated category with a definite and limited focus. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:56, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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 * I agree with keeping but purge per AHI-3000. The prison escapees category is rightly a subcategory of Category:Fictional fugitives, so prison escapees should be diffused properly. House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 16:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:People by former city
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 16:32, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:People by former city to Category:People by former populated place
 * Propose renaming Category:Murder victims by city to Category:Murder victims by populated place
 * Nominator's rationale: I think we should broaden this category to be populated place, in the same spirit as other recent CFDs Mason (talk) 12:53, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Rename, for consistency with many other similar renames. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Swiss evangelicals
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 24%23Category:Swiss evangelicals

Category:French Baroque viol players
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 24%23Category:French Baroque viol players

Category:Polish painters of Jewish descent
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 24%23Category:Polish painters of Jewish descent

Category:Massacres of men
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 24%23Category:Massacres of men

Category:Discrimination against men
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 16:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting discrimination against men
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory and one article. Merging to Category:Discrimination is not needed, both entries are already in that tree. The article is also in both other parents, while I doubt that the subcategory would belong there. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:42, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom Mason (talk) 12:55, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom —<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">Panamitsu (talk) 11:44, 18 March 2024 (UTC)


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Azulejos
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename/merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 16:28, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in Brazil to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in Brazil
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in buildings in Mexico to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in Mexico
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in Peru to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in Peru
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in Portugal to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in Portugal
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in buildings in Portugal to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in Portugal (merge to the category on the line above)
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in Andalusia to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in Andalusia
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in buildings in Andalusia to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in Andalusia (merge to the category on the line above)
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in Aragon to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in Aragon
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in Castile and León to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in Castile and León
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in buildings in Castile and León to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in Castile and León (merge to the category on the line above)
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in Castilla–La Mancha to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in Castilla–La Mancha
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in Catalonia to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in Catalonia
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in buildings in Catalonia to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in Catalonia (merge to the category on the line above)
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in the Valencian Community to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in the Valencian Community
 * Propose renaming Category:Azulejos in buildings in the Valencian Community to Category:Buildings and structures with azulejos in the Valencian Community (merge to the category on the line above)
 * Nominator's rationale: rename/merge per actual content, all articles in these categories are about buildings and structures. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:15, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Mason (talk) 17:29, 17 March 2024 (UTC)


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By period
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 16:25, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Radio programs by period to Category:Radio programs by date
 * Propose renaming Category:Games by period to Category:Games by date
 * Propose renaming Category:Board games by period to Category:Board games by date
 * Propose renaming Category:Card games by period to Category:Card games by date
 * Propose renaming Category:Role-playing games by period to Category:Role-playing games by date
 * Propose renaming Category:Video games by period to Category:Video games by date
 * Nominator's rationale: rename and re-parent, follow-up on this earlier discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:47, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom Mason (talk) 12:55, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Support: Seems reasonable. BOZ (talk) 13:46, 17 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Y. S. Rajasekhara Reddy
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 16:23, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting y. s. rajasekhara reddy
 * Propose deleting cultural depictions of y. s. rajasekhara reddy
 * Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation. There are only three pages total in this entire tree. Created by a disruptive, now banned editor. Mason (talk) 05:21, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete, the articles are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:51, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:20th-century Greek American writers
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 16:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:20th-century Greek American writers to Category:20th-century Greek Americans and Category:20th-century American writers and Category:American writers of Greek descent
 * Propose merging Category:19th-century Greek American writers to Category:American writers of Greek descent and Category:19th-century Greek Americans and Category:19th-century American writers
 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining four-way (4) intersection of century + nationality + occupation + ethnic/national descent Mason (talk) 03:13, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge, trivial intersection between century and ancestors' nationality. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:52, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:English queer actresses
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 20:48, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:English queer actresses to Category:British queer actresses and Category:English queer people
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to have a single page in a category. I strongly urge the page creator to populate categories they create. Mason (talk) 01:17, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles can be added. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Marcocapelle, FYI there seems to be some removals out of process User talk:Giovanni 0331. So I'm going to make a more concreted effort to populate it. Mason (talk) 22:30, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment the category now has seven articles. do you still support merging? House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 16:23, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * the nomination has apparantly become moot. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:26, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to keep the category, instead of merging. Especially now that it is clear that these categories were depopulated out of process. Mason (talk) 19:52, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Boxing matches in Las Vegas
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 24%23Category:Boxing matches in Las Vegas

Category:House of Vitré
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 02:20, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:House of Vitré to Category:Barony of Vitré
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There is a list and a single baron in here, which is not helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 01:13, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:59, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Pigasse family
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 02:20, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting pigasse family
 * Nominator's rationale: This family category is an uncle-nephew pair, which doesn't need a category for navigation Mason (talk) 01:12, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete, the articles are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:01, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Fézensac family
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 02:20, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting fézensac family
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete category. There's no actual people in this category and the only page is the county they share a name with. The child category is already categorized. Mason (talk) 01:03, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:25, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:18th-century Danish newspaper publishers (people)
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 02:20, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:18th-century Danish newspaper publishers (people) to Category:18th-century Danish publishers (people) and Category:Danish newspaper publishers (people) and Category:18th-century newspaper publishers (people)
 * Propose merging Category:17th-century French newspaper publishers (people) to Category:17th-century French businesspeople and Category:French newspaper publishers (people) and Category:17th-century newspaper publishers (people)
 * Propose merging Category:18th-century German newspaper publishers (people) to Category:18th-century German businesspeople and Category:18th-century newspaper publishers (people)
 * Propose merging Category:17th-century German newspaper publishers (people) to Category:17th-century German businesspeople and Category:German newspaper publishers (people) and Category:17th-century newspaper publishers (people)
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in each of these categories, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 00:04, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


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