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Category:History organizations based in Kazakhstan

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:History organizations based in Kazakhstan to Category:Historiography of Kazakhstan
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:51, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:18th-century Slovak physicians

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 * The result of the discussion was: triple merge as nominated. Categorization of Samuel Genersich can, of course, be discussed at Talk:Samuel Genersich. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:18th-century Slovak physicians to Category:18th-century physicians and Category:18th-century Slovak people and Category:Slovak physicians
 * Nominator's rationale: Triple upmerge for now. There are only two people in this category, while the parent (18th-century Slovak people) has 6. Right now this isn't helpful for navigation to diffuse by occupation and century and nationality. Mason (talk) 19:22, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Perhaps purge Samuel Genersich who wasn't an ethnic Slovak. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 31 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Centuries in Almaty

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Centuries in Almaty to Category:History of Almaty
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:30, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom Mason (talk) 19:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:French forts in the United States
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Category:Slovenian geriatricians

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 * The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure)  Toadette Edit! 21:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Slovenian geriatricians to Category:Slovenian physicians and Category:Geriatricians
 * Propose merging Category:Russian geriatricians to Category:Russian physicians and Category:Geriatricians
 * Propose merging Category:Polish geriatricians to Category:Polish physicians and Category:Geriatricians
 * Propose merging Category:Pakistani geriatricians to Category:Pakistani medical doctors and Category:Geriatricians
 * Propose merging Category:Norwegian geriatricians to Category:Norwegian physicians and Category:Geriatricians
 * Propose merging Category:New Zealand geriatricians to Category:New Zealand medical doctors and Category:Geriatricians
 * Propose merging Category:Filipino geriatricians to Category:Filipino medical doctors and Category:Geriatricians
 * Propose merging Category:Dutch geriatricians to Category:Dutch physicians and Category:Geriatricians
 * Propose splitting Category:Danish geriatricians to Category:Danish physicians and Category:Geriatricians
 * Propose splitting Category:Puerto Rican geriatricians to Category:Puerto Rican physicians and Category:American geriatricians
 * Propose merging Category:Cypriot geriatricians to Category:Cypriot physicians and Category:Geriatricians
 * Propose merging Category:Brazilian geriatricians to Category:Brazilian physicians and Category:Geriatricians
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to diffuse this medical specialty by nationality to this degree. Each of these noms have one or two people in them Mason (talk) 22:50, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Additional categories were added to the nomination, relisting to allow time for discussion. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  11:26, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: If this is to go ahead, then Category:Canadian geriatricians and Category:Irish geriatricians should be included.--Ipigott (talk) 06:26, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I've added the rest of the categories with two people in them. Mason (talk) 03:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging: Category:Australian geriatricians to Category:Australian medical doctors and Category:Geriatricians
 * Propose merging: Category:Canadian geriatricians to Category:Canadian physicians and Category:Geriatricians
 * Propose merging: Category:Irish geriatricians to Category:Irish medical doctors and Category:Geriatricians
 * Mason (talk) 03:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I think that the Canadian category is big enough with 6, but I'd be fine with adding Irish Mason (talk) 12:57, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I will support merging the Irish category too if it is going to be added to the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:36, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Part of an established category tree. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:13, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
 * That is a circular argument. After the merge very little of the tree will be left. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:02, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Due to suspected WP:MEAT. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 12:53, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment The entire categorisation scheme of Wikipedia consists of occupation by nationality categories, many with few members. The other issue I see is then having say British and American geriatricians in subcategories but having a large category of geriatricians not divided by nationality. I'm not sure that assists in navigation, either. AusLondonder (talk) 22:26, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Necrothesp. 121.202.28.169 (talk) 11:36, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Auslondoner. 203.186.171.150 (talk) 12:48, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Sigh... to the closer these are probably the same IP (Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring) Mason (talk) 14:15, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Merge in principle, but I'd prefer an RfC on the matter of upmerging categories for the sake of navigation. — Qwerfjkl  talk  19:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Dallas Hilltoppers football seasons

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 * The result of the discussion was: single merge. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  19:16, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Dallas Hilltoppers football seasons to Category:Dallas Hilltoppers football
 * Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects and does not aid navigation. Let&#39;srun (talk) 02:05, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  12:51, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge for now with only two articles, but presumably dual merge also to Category:College football seasons. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:01, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * dual merge also to Category:College football seasons – Huh? Why the heck would we want to merge a mere two of 30,000+ college football season articles to create a brand-new category called "College football seasons" – that makes absolutely zero sense. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It can be populated with many more articles when all subcategories with one or two articles are merged. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * That still makes no sense. If I wanted to find seasons of this team, I would look up "Dallas Hilltoppers football seasons", not a broad "College football seasons" category that has the potential for hundreds of thousands of entries! Not to mention such a category would be missing tens of thousands of articles for programs which have more than a few seasons with articles. It just doesn't make sense. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:42, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * are you alright with a single merge? House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 22:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * alright. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Children of Ottoman sultans
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl  talk  19:23, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Children of Ottoman sultans to Category:Ottoman royalty
 * Nominator's rationale: Not all of the princes and princesses included in this list are children of the sultan, some are grandchildren. Векочел (talk) 14:24, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  13:48, 22 March 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  12:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. It is also a redudant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:21, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose The fact that you mentioned is good reason to keep the category, it should be used for specifically children of Sultans, illegitimate ones too.★Trekker (talk) 18:58, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 * No, per WP:OVERLAPCAT, it would largely overlap with the existing princes and princesses categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Academics of the College of the Resurrection
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Category:Aphex Twin songs
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Category:E7 nations
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting e7 nations
 * Nominator's rationale: Associated articles E7 (countries) deleted at AfD. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 12:01, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:45, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-defining. CMD (talk) 09:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Political posters of Italy
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Category:Converts from Nontrinitarianism
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Converts from Nontrinitarianism to Category:Converts from Christianity
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Upmerge for now without prejudice. NLeeuw (talk) 14:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Early modern history by city
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting early modern history by city
 * Propose deleting modern history by city
 * Propose deleting contemporary history by city
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, overlaps with Category:Centuries by city and Category:Decades by city. If kept, rename Category:Early modern history by city to Category:Early modern period by city per article Early modern period and parent Category:Early modern period. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:19, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Support rename if kept per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 14:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC)


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Category:English people by ethnic or national origin
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:English people by descent. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 22:10, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:English people by ethnic or national origin to Category:English people by descent
 * Nominator's rationale: A. rename per usage of "descent" in the subcategory names. B. purge Category:English Jews because the latter isn't about their ancestors but about what they are themselves (i.e. it is about ethnicity rather than about descent). This is part of a larger stale speedy nomination in which User:1234qwer1234qwer4, User:Anomalous+0 and User:Smasongarrison participated. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I guess the previous ping failed. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:10, 4 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep the existing name. The wording suggests it's about something broader than descent; and indeed national origin may not be something to do with or the same as ethnicity or ethnic origin. 83.229.61.201 (talk) 15:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It is not in fact broader, because the subcategories are by descent too. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:24, 31 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. I'm fine with adding Category:English Jews to the parent category. Being Jewish is nested under both ethnicity and religion, so as long as we have it in English people as well as the religion sub cat, I'm fine with purging. (otherwise it gets hidden in English people by religion) Mason (talk) 17:59, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment Is this discussion tied to the hundreds of "by ethnic or national origin" categories that have been sitting in Speedy Renames for weeks on the CFD page? If so, that should be mentioned that this one category rename could impact hundreds of other categories. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 21:47, 6 April 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Male television actors by ethnic or national descent
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting male television actors by ethnic or national descent
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Merging is not necessary, the subcategory is already part of Category:Belgian male television actors. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:31, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Mason (talk) 01:09, 2 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 06:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC)


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Category:2023 Marrakesh-Safi earthquake
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Category:Kosovan LGBT-related films
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Kosovan LGBT-related films to Category:LGBT in Kosovo
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. The only page in here is already in the relevant subcategories of Kosovan films and LGBT-related films Mason (talk) 01:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:29, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Upmerge for now without prejudice. NLeeuw (talk) 14:40, 4 April 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Arabian agnostics
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Middle Eastern agnostics. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:18, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Arabian agnostics to Category:Agnostics
 * Nominator's rationale: Category is too small for navigation, isn't a nationality, and is probably not a defining intersection Mason (talk) 01:16, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Support in principle, but merge more specifically to Category:Middle Eastern agnostics. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Even better Mason (talk) 18:01, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Upmerge for now without prejudice to Category:Middle Eastern agnostics per Marcocapelle. NLeeuw (talk) 14:42, 4 April 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Lists of Roman Catholic bishops and archbishops in Bangladesh
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Lists of Roman Catholic bishops and archbishops in Asia and Category:Bangladeshi Roman Catholic bishops. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:20, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:Lists of Roman Catholic bishops and archbishops in Bangladesh to Category:Lists of Roman Catholic bishops and archbishops in Asia and Category:Catholic Church in Bangladesh
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. There's only one list in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 00:04, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Support in principle, but merge more specifically to Category:Lists of Roman Catholic bishops and archbishops in Asia and Category:Bangladeshi Roman Catholic bishops. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:36, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Administrations of prime ministers of the United Kingdom
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:British premierships. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:17, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting administrations of prime ministers of the united kingdom
 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant to Category:British premierships. Administrations of PM's is the same as the Premiership. Since it refers to the same thing, this category is a redundant layer of subcats. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:01, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:37, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


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