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Category:MSI nettops

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:MSI computers and Category:Mini PC. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting msi nettops
 * Nominator's rationale: Only one article in category. Upmerge to relevant categories. Gonnym (talk) 20:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge to both parent categories, per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:14, 12 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Rihard Jakopič

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl  talk  17:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting rihard jakopič
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete for now: This eponymous category only has the artist and a pavilion that is named after them. Such a category, with two pages is unhelpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 20:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep for now: categories like redirects are WP:CHEAP. Maybe the category will be populated in the future. Do you see no prospect for expansion of this right now unhelpful category? Awesome Aasim 21:21, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Jakopič is well known artist in Slovenia and in future the category will likely contain Slovenian streets named after him. Category is useful to me.  A09  | (talk)  12:20, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Articles about streets named after an artist do not belong in a category anyway, as these articles do not provide any information about the artist. The streets may be listed in the article about the artist though. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:01, 12 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OCEPON, and the two articles are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't object to deletion of this category. It only contains two articles besides the eponymous one. If there are more articles created on the artist about some of his paintings (which are notable but I don't expect it will happen right away), the category may be recreated. Thanks for the notification. --TadejM my talk 22:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OCEPON. I see zero policy/guideline-based reasoning to keep this category; just an WP:ITSUSEFUL and a "it might grow" (which was deprecated as a reason to keep a category in October). House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Coaches Kerala Cricket Team 2023

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting coaches kerala cricket team 2023
 * Nominator's rationale: One-entry category for a non-defining characteristic. We do not exhaustively subcategorize cricket coaches for the individual year they worked, particularly given that sports teams normally only have one coach at any given time, and thus each category would have only one entry (or perhaps two if a coach got fired and replaced partway through the season, but never, ever enough to actually surpass minimum size requirements for categories). And even if this category were justified, this wouldn't be its correct name anyway. Bearcat (talk) 19:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. It is not even mentioned in the article. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment Category is empty. Liz Read! Talk! 16:32, 12 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Cartoonists by country templates
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Category:United States National Recording Registry albums

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting united states national recording registry albums
 * Nominator's rationale: The same rationale as last time: Categories for discussion/Log/2022 April 28. I still see no reason for this category to be active and it is still redudant to Category:United States National Recording Registry recordings. Even if all the album articles were listed under the United States National Recording Registry albums category, that would just leave songs and other miscellaneous records under the United States National Recording Registry recordings category. It is really a crime to have all the inducted recordings under one category?  QuasyBoy  (talk)  18:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Good point Espngeek (talk) 18:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 13:24, 3 May 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 19:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If not kept, at least merge to Category:United States National Recording Registry recordings rather than delete. Nominator does not make clear what is wrong with Category:United States National Recording Registry albums though. It is not redundant per se, it is simply more specific. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak keep, otherwise upmerge per Marcocapelle. Like all participants in these two CfDs, I'm not clear what the issue is. Not all recordings are albums, so there isn't an obvious redundancy here. But like the sole participant in the previous CfD, I'm not sure if these really make sense as categories rather than a list. -- Visviva (talk) 02:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits
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Category:People of South Asian descent

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People of South Asian descent to Category:People of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:American people of South Asian descent to Category:American people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Australian people of South Asian descent to Category:Australian people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:British people of South Asian descent to Category:British people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Canadian people of South Asian descent to Category:Canadian people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Chinese people of South Asian descent to Category:Chinese people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Emirati people of South Asian descent to Category:Emirati people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Filipino people of South Asian descent to Category:Filipino people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Hong Kong people of South Asian descent to Category:Hong Kong people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Indian people of South Asian descent to Category:Indian people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Iraqi people of South Asian descent to Category:Iraqi people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Israeli people of South Asian descent to Category:Israeli people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Japanese people of South Asian descent to Category:Japanese people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Kenyan people of South Asian descent to Category:Kenyan people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Kuwaiti people of South Asian descent to Category:Kuwaiti people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Lebanese people of South Asian descent to Category:Lebanese people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Malaysian people of South Asian descent to Category:Malaysian people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:New Zealand people of South Asian descent to Category:New Zealand people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Nigerian people of South Asian descent to Category:Nigerian people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Omani people of South Asian descent to Category:Omani people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Pakistani people of South Asian descent‎ to Category:Pakistani people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Qatari people of South Asian descent to Category:Qatari people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Russian people of South Asian descent to Category:Russian people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Saudi Arabian people of South Asian descent‎ to Category:Saudi Arabian people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Singaporean people of South Asian descent to Category:Singaporean people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:South African people of South Asian descent to Category:South African people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Thai people of South Asian descent to Category:Thai people of Asian descent
 * Propose merging Category:Turkish people of South Asian descent‎ to Category:Turkish people of Asian descent
 * Nominator's rationale: The boundaries of South Asia are not well-defined. Beyond the central regions of the Indian Empire, there is significant inconsistency in which additional countries are considered part of South Asia. Clear demarcations—whether geographical, geopolitical, socio-cultural, economic, or historical—between South Asia and other Asian regions are lacking. Aldij (talk) 16:05, 11 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Strong oppose: Asia is a huge continent. I see this as creating more confusion when making categories than having them separate. The geographical boundaries can be debated but it does not change that some reliable sources including sources close to the author refer to the subject as of "South Asian" descent. Awesome Aasim 21:23, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment, in the history tree for before 1947, the term "India" is mostly used to encompass the current territory of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. "South Asia" might be a better alternative than "India". Marcocapelle (talk) 03:32, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Regardless of the variability in definition of "South Asia" in the real world, Wikipedia has solved the problem for its own purposes. We have numerous articles and categories relating to "South Asia". The 8 countries we include are listed at South Asia. It is untrue that we lack a clear demarcation. To help with the issue of users not being aware of which countries are covered, we could copy and paste the list of 8 countries into the top of each category listed above. If there is a valid rationale for merging, it's not the one presented above. Nurg (talk) 09:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia intends to follow the real world, not to set its own standards. Of these 8 countries, Afghanistan is very questionable as it is often counted as part of Central Asia, but the other 7 are ok. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't have an opinion on whether Afghanistan should remain in South Asia or be moved to Central Asia. "Wikipedia has solved the problem for its own purposes" for now. It can change to a different definition of 'South Asia', but that's a separate debate and I probably wouldn't be interested enough in it to participate. But the nominator's rationale that the boundaries of South Asia are not well-defined is not true for our purposes. We have a very clear definition, albeit it is not immutable. Nurg (talk) 01:48, 13 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose unless this is a proposal to upmerge all intermediate regional categories into Fooian people of Asian descent categories, for consistency. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I would oppose such a proposal as well because geography. South Asians are culturally and linguistically different from East Asians and Middle Eastern Asians. Distance does a lot to culture. Awesome Aasim 20:52, 12 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Carib people
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Category:20th-century Algerian photographers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:20th-century photographers. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:20th-century Algerian photographers to Category:Algerian photographers and Category:20th-century photographers
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. This category is only has one person in it and doesn't help navigation. Mason (talk) 04:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Single merge to Category:20th-century photographers, the article is about someone who spent his childhood in Algeria but as a photographer he was not related to Algeria. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:39, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * thoughts on a single merge? House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:56, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Fine with me. Good catch Mason (talk) 00:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Students in Mauritius

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Student protests in Mauritius to Category:Student protests in Africa and Category:Protests in Mauritius
 * Propose deleting students in mauritius
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one page in this category, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 01:54, 11 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:49, 11 May 2024 (UTC)


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