Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 2

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Disputed/unknown cause

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting aviation accidents and incidents with disputed cause
 * Propose deleting airliner accidents and incidents with an unknown cause
 * Propose deleting aviation accidents and incidents with an unknown cause
 * Nominator's rationale: Feels very much like a WP:OCMISC to me. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:25, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 14:52, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Aviation accidents and incidents caused by mechanical failure

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Aviation accidents and incidents involving engineering failures. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting aviation accidents and incidents caused by mechanical failure
 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer. Boeing manufacturing and design issues fits just as well in the subcat. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:25, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Aviation accidents and incidents involving engineering failures per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Aircraft bombings

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:04, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting aircraft bombings
 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer. Category:Kamikaze shouldn't be here at all since the scope appears to be "bombings targeted at aircraft", not "bombings using aircraft as a weapon" (which would be Category:Bomber aircraft) and Kamikaze bombers targeted ships rather than aircraft. That leaves only one redirect and one subcat. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:12, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete but move the subcategory Category:Airliner bombings under Category:Vehicle bombings. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete but move the subcategory per Marcocapelle. NLeeuw (talk) 14:36, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Aviation accidents and incidents involving uncontained engine failure

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:04, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting aviation accidents and incidents involving uncontained engine failure
 * Propose deleting aviation accidents and incidents involving belly landings
 * Propose deleting aviation accidents and incidents caused by electrical failure
 * Propose deleting aviation accidents and incidents involving in-flight depressurization
 * Propose deleting aviation accidents and incidents caused by microbursts
 * Propose deleting aviation accidents and incidents caused by sabotage
 * Propose deleting aviation accidents and incidents caused by volcanic events
 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer. Only one subcat * Pppery * it has begun... 21:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, but incidentally recategorize the subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * When and why? NLeeuw (talk) 14:37, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 14:37, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:NAIA Women's Basketball Championships

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:NAIA Women's Basketball Championships to Category:NAIA women's basketball championships
 * Nominator's rationale: Over-capitalized. Dicklyon (talk) 20:30, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Deputy Heads of state

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting deputy heads of state
 * Nominator's rationale: Category of unclear utility, whose name isn't really an accurate reflection of its contents. This was created within the past month solely as a parent for -- but that's already a subcategory of, and the name of this implies that its contents should be people rather than inanimate things related to job titles. There really aren't other types of "deputy head of state" besides vice-presidents anyway, so this functionally just duplicates another category that already exists. Bearcat (talk) 14:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:08, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep. Useful category to hold the articles on deputy heads of state, most of which would be titled vice president or other similar titles. 42.200.80.48 (talk) 12:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * They would not be titled vice presidents, they are titled vice presidents. And vice presidents already have their own tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:40, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 22:21, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Buildings and structures on the Ashley River (South Carolina)

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting buildings and structures on the ashley river (south carolina)
 * Propose deleting buildings and structures on the mobile river
 * Propose deleting buildings and structures on the trent river (north carolina)
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, the categories contain only one article each, that is not helpful for navigation between articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:56, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:John Hawks buildings in New Bern, North Carolina

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:John Hawks buildings in New Bern, North Carolina to Category:John Hawks buildings
 * Nominator's rationale: There's no need to difuse this category be the city that these buildings are in given that these are the only two buildings in the full tree. Mason (talk) 04:04, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I added a third article but that does not change matters, the parent category remains empty, so merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:00, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Nazi Germany ministers

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Government ministers of Nazi Germany. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Nazi Germany ministers to Category:Hitler cabinet ministers
 * Nominator's rationale: Fix the rather ungrammatical title of this category and rename it to be consistent the main article, Hitler cabinet (t &#183; c)  buidhe  04:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Rename target? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 02:40, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment (no oppose): I think that Category:Ministers of Nazi Germany sounds better. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I think that won't work because of the double meaning of "minister" in English. The tree is Category:Government ministers by country, to avoid confusion with the Christian meaning of "minister" (e.g. missionary or evangelist). NLeeuw (talk) 14:46, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Alt rename to Category:Government ministers of Nazi Germany per parent Category:Government ministers of Germany (WP:C2C). "cabinet minister" (indirect WP:C2D) could also work as proposed, but it is quite rare by comparison: Category:Cabinet ministers of the Russian Empire, Category:Members of the Cabinet of the Philippines, Category:Members of the Cabinet of the Republic of Hawaii etc. Not sure why Category:Cabinet Ministers of Ghana is a subcategory of Category:Government ministers of Ghana though. Category:Government ministers of Sri Lanka seems to indicate that some ministers are not part of the cabinet (Category:Non-cabinet ministers of Sri Lanka, Non-cabinet minister (Sri Lanka)), while others are. But if there is no distinction between them, I think the "government ministers of Fooland" convention should be maintained throughout the tree. NLeeuw (talk) 14:40, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support alt rename, this is less ambiguous than I earlier suggested. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:18, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support alt rename per NLeeuw Mason (talk) 20:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Atari 8-bit family games

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Atari 8-bit family games to Category:Atari 8-bit computer games
 * Nominator's rationale: Article has recently gone through a name change to Atari 8-bit computers. This category should reflect that. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

--Krótki (talk) 05:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: I will tag the categories listed by. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 02:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename Keep in sync with parent article. "Atari 8-bit computer" is more historically accurate than "Atari 8-bit family". Dgpop (talk) 17:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment As the individual who made the move of the Atari 8-bit family article I will politely refrain from the above discussion. I only want to notice that if the rename is decided upon, then also these other categories should be renamed, to maintain consistency:
 * Category:Atari 8-bit family to Category:Atari 8-bit computers
 * Category:Atari 8-bit family software to Category:Atari 8-bit computer software
 * Category:Atari 8-bit family-only games to Category:Atari 8-bit computer-only games
 * Category:Cancelled Atari 8-bit family games to Category:Cancelled Atari 8-bit computer games
 * Category:Screenshots of Atari 8-bit family games to Category:Screenshots of Atari 8-bit computer games
 * Category:Atari 8-bit family game covers to Category:Atari 8-bit computer game covers
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Unless anyone is going to object to the article move (which happened 2 weeks ago) the category name should just follow the new article name. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename all per nom and Krótki. NLeeuw (talk) 14:54, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support renaming. Oathed (talk) 16:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


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