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Category:WikiProject Good articles participants

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikiproject good articles participants
 * Nominator's rationale: Defunct WikiProject. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The project page has been edited to say the project is defunct and has moved to Good articles but the main Good Articles project category is Category:WikiProject Good articles so this would be the subcategory for participants. However the participants are in Category:WikiProject Good Articles participants, which is only a difference in capitalisation, but that category and its parent Category:Wikipedia good article contributors are disconnected from the rest of the good articles project categories. The "Articles" version should probably be merged into this one. Peter James (talk) 00:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of MyrtaBeautyQueen
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 27%23Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of MyrtaBeautyQueen

Category:Old Believer churches in Latvia

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 22:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Anglican church buildings in Latvia to Category:Anglicanism in Latvia and Category:Anglican church buildings in Europe
 * Propose merging Category:Old Believer churches in Latvia to Category:Old Believer movement and Category:Churches in Latvia
 * Nominator's rationale: Very small categories with 1 and 2 members respectively. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:06, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge  per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:22, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:21th-century disestablishments in the Central African Republic

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy rename. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:09, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:21th-century disestablishments in the Central African Republic to Category:21st-century disestablishments in the Central African Republic
 * Nominator's rationale: typo in name, should be 21st-century, not 21th Bookworm-ce (talk) 20:53, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Rename per WP:C2A, this could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Good to know, Marcocapelle, I've never initiated this process before so wasn't sure. Thanks! Bookworm-ce (talk) 15:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename, as a category creator, I acknowledge my mistake in writing the name. If I were you, I would rename it immediately Faldi00 (talk) 08:23, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Militia in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 22:49, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Militia in the United States to Category:Militia of the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: Older duplicate of Category:Militia of the United States. The replacement to redirect was reverted for the sake of discussion Solidest (talk) 19:06, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge or delete, the latter because I am not sure if the target is right for the only article. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:32, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Would Category:Paramilitary organizations based in the United States be a more relevant category for the article? Peter James (talk) 00:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * thoughts on Peter James's merge target? House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 22:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes that is a better place for the one article in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Finding Nemo characters

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 22:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Finding Nemo characters to Category:Finding Nemo
 * Nominator's rationale: Only contains one article. (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:29, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. This is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:21, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:The Black Parade (rock opera)

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 22:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:The Black Parade (rock opera) to Category:The Black Parade
 * Nominator's rationale: To match with The Black Parade. The Black Parade (rock opera) doesn't even exist currently as a redirect, and I don't particularly see why it would need to. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 11:34, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom The Sharpest Lives (contribs) 15:05, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Not sure. Black Parade (without "The") offers multiple alternative meanings. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:36, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I would argue that could probably be a redirect to The Black Parade and the dab moved to Black Parade (disambiguation). I should also point out that this is the only existing category with "Black Parade" in the title, and that none of the rest of the entries on the dab are likely to get their own categories which would conflict with this. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 13:00, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support No evidence that the others at the Black Parade disambiguation page can have "The" added. Peter James (talk) 00:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:The Wall (rock opera)

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 22:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:The Wall (rock opera) to Category:The Wall
 * Nominator's rationale: To match with The Wall. I don't see why the disambiguation would be necessary. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 11:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support, per nom The Sharpest Lives (contribs) 15:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


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Decades in Punjab

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:1930s in Punjab‎ to Category:1930s in India and Category:Punjab Province
 * Propose merging Category:1940s in Punjab‎ to Category:1940s in East Punjab
 * Propose merging Category:1950s in Punjab‎ to Category:1950s in Punjab, India
 * Propose merging Category:1960s in Punjab‎ to Category:1960s in Punjab, India
 * Nominator's rationale: merge, only one article in each of these categories, that is not helpful for navigation. Besides Punjab is divided between India and Pakistan since 1947, so the 1950s and 1960s categories should not exist anyway. Since the content of these categories is about Punjabi film which is primarily about film in India, I have added East Punjab and Punjab, India as targets. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:G13 eligible AfC submissions

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 16:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:G13 eligible AfC submissions to Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as abandoned drafts or AfC submissions
 * Nominator's rationale: Technically all G13 eligible AfC submissions are candidates for speedy deletion as abandoned drafts or AfC submissions. I see little reason to isolate this category since the latter category will give a larger list for users to find a draft and update so it does not meet G13. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 15:25, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:31, 19 April 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: A merge closure was overturned per Deletion review/Log/2024 May 4. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, * Pppery * it has begun... 16:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 02:20, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Oppose These are two categories for two very specific and different use cases. The Category:G13 eligible AfC submissions tracks not only drafts that are 6 months of inactivity, but also 5 months of inactivity. This category is specifically for AfC reviewers and other editors to rescue these drafts, if the topic is notable or has turned notable, before the drafts hit the guillotine block at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as abandoned drafts or AfC submissions, which is an outright CSD category that is meant for draft of 6 months of inactivity and above. In my experience, the Category:G13 eligible AfC submissions category has been used by well-meaning editors, and if there are dummy edits made nefariously, these editors should be surfaced at an appropriate forum. Merging the categories will not resolve the behavioural issue, they will just monitor the CSD category more rigorously to make the dummy edits before an admin can action on it. – robertsky (talk) 16:22, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If it is meant to contain drafts of more than 5 months old then the category name is obviously not clear enough. The category is currently empty, so is anyone actively using it? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:36, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It is a bit of a misnomer to say that because it is empty no one is "actively using it"; the category is automatically populated based on the age of the draft; if there are no drafts that are old enough then it will be empty (hence the empty category tag). Given that we have (literally) hundreds of drafts submitted every day, and only a fraction of those are ever worked on past their initial decline, I would say that someone is keeping an eye on it to make sure that drafts worth keeping are saved, and drafts worth nuking are then G13'd. Primefac (talk) 17:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The category is probably never populated. Note that quarry:query/25817 yields 115 drafts as of now, while this is supposed to replicate the category content. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:23, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That quarry was last run in 2018... Primefac (talk) 19:41, 15 May 2024 (UTC) It also, as of about thirty seconds ago, has three pages in it. Primefac (talk) 19:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC) Just so I don't have to keep updating this page, it has pages as of the time of last refresh. Primefac (talk) 19:48, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I believe you are thinking of Category:AfC G13 eligible soon submissions (5-6 months), which is a different category from this one (6+ months). See Template:AfC submission/draft (lines 22-23) or the description on each category's page. SilverLocust 💬 07:09, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @SilverLocust thanks for clarification. I was/am still recovering from effects of a flu, after having travelled for half the month for various conferences. In this case, I would question if there is indeed a need to have two separate categories for the same purpose. – robertsky (talk) 09:02, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * , the intention is to have a category for pages that are eligible for G13, and a category for pages that have been nominated for deletion under G13. I've asked Liz and Explicit to comment since they've been deleting G13 pages straight out of this category, which might give a better indication of how best we could utilise it if it's kept. Primefac (talk) 09:55, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Just noting that I have notified Liz and Explicit about this discussion, since they seem to be patrolling it and directly deleting pages from it. Primefac (talk) 06:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Opposed. While automatic (i.e. bot) tagging of eligible drafts has been approved in the past, populating this category instead of directly feeding a page into the G13 cat itself means that there is one more set of checks that users can do before a page is formally nominated for deletion. Primefac (talk) 15:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Shootings in Virginia
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 22:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting shootings in virginia
 * Nominator's rationale: Virginia is the only U.S. State with a separate category for non-mass shootings. Of its 5 articles, 3 are in the "Mass shootings in Virginia" category, while the remaining 2 are in the "Crimes in Virginia" category. 100.7.34.111 (talk) 14:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, but then move Category:Mass shootings in Virginia directly under Category:Crimes in Virginia. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:47, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


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