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Category:Trans-related suicides

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 23:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Trans-related suicides to Category:Transgender-related suicides
 * Nominator's rationale: Based on several categories in Special:PrefixIndex/Category:Transgender-related. -- MikutoH talk! 23:22, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Rename for consistency with Category:Transgender and Category:Transgender people. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 06:01, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per above. NLeeuw (talk) 04:56, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Comic book editors

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 02:27, 15 May 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  19:13, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: No consensus * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Comic book editors to Category:Comics editors
 * Nominator's rationale: The term "comic book" is used for periodical comics publications and is not inclusive of manga, webcomics, graphic novels, etc. "Comics editors" is inclusive of all forms of comics. Thematthewmurray (talk) 22:48, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Those are different industries, don't mix apples and oranges. Rather create "manga editors" in Category:Manga industry and list them there. As for the others, graphic novels may not be the same as comic books, but the industry that makes them is the same one, so there's no problem grouping them together. And are there webcomic editors? isn't that a self-published genre? Cambalachero (talk) 00:10, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * While there have been webcomics editors for years, the rise of webcomic platforms/sites like Webtoon and Tapas mean that they are more prominent than before.
 * Since you suggested splitting out Japanese editors, I'll mention that the category also currently includes comics editors who worked in the comics industries in Belgium, Brazil, China, France, Italy, Mexico, the Netherlands, Serbia, and the UK. Thematthewmurray (talk) 15:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If the industry of webcomics is so developed now, then yes, create a third category for them. As for Japan, Japanese comics are a specific and distinct genre in its own right. Can we say the same of the comics of those other countries? Cambalachero (talk) 16:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * There are pages for Bande dessinée (Franco-Belgian comics), Brazilian comics, Comics in Mexico, Manhua (Chinese comics), Dutch comics, Serbian comics, and British comics. I am far from an expert in all of these, but I feel that some of them (such as Franco-Belgian comics) are easily as developed as Japanese comics.
 * I'll also mention that the majority of other categories for comics-related positions use the term "comics." Category:Comics creators, Category:Comics writers, Category:Comics artists, Category:Comics colorists, and Category:Comics inkers. (The one exception is Category:Comic book letterers.) Additionally the subpages are in the same format: Category:Comics writers by nationality. Thematthewmurray (talk) 16:56, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Kingdom of Luang Phrabang

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 17:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting kingdom of luang phrabang
 * Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Merging is not needed, the subcategory is already in appropriate parents. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:25, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Central African Republic people

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  15:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: No consensus * Pppery * it has begun... 22:53, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Central African Republic people to Category:People from the Central African Republic
 * Propose renaming Category:Central African Republic women to Category:Women from the Central African Republic
 * Propose renaming Category:Central African Republic men to Category:Men from the Central African Republic
 * Propose renaming Category:Central African Republic women by occupation to Category:Women from the Central African Republic by occupation
 * Propose renaming Category:Central African Republic men by occupation to Category:Men from the Central African Republic by occupation
 * Propose renaming Category:Central African Republic bishops to Category:Bishops from the Central African Republic by occupation
 * Propose renaming Category:Central African Republic Roman Catholic bishops to Category:Roman Catholic bishops from the Central African Republic by occupation
 * Nominator's rationale: Although most nationality categories are named 'Fooinan people', there are several exceptions: Category:People from Georgia (country), Category:People from Northern Ireland, Category:People from the State of Palestine, as well as almost all subcategories in Category:People by former country and about half of those in Category:People by dependent territory. I think 'People from the Central African Republic' is a much clearer and better name in English than 'Central African Republic people'. Aldij (talk) 15:18, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Oppose. "People from Foo" is used where "Fooian people" is not feasiable. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Adam Black talk &bull; contributions 16:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  15:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:25, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging category to Category:Categories which use Large category TOC without Automatic category TOC
 * Propose merging category to Category:Categories which use Large category TOC without Automatic category TOC
 * Propose merging category to Category:Categories which use Large category TOC without Automatic category TOC
 * Propose merging category to Category:Categories which use Large category TOC without Automatic category TOC
 * Propose merging category to Category:Categories which use Large category TOC without Automatic category TOC
 * Propose merging category to Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC
 * Propose merging category to Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC
 * Propose merging category to Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC
 * Propose merging category to Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC
 * Propose merging category to Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC
 * Propose deleting category
 * Nominator's rationale: This whole tree needs a little bit of love. I came here to propose a speedy rename from "Foo CatAutoTOC bar" to "Foo Automatic category TOC bar" following a RM at Template talk:Automatic category TOC, but I think this whole tree needs to be simplified. It is so small that diffusing by number of pages in the category is a hindrance to navigation. I will also note that Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC is terribly named: it only contains categories which use Category TOC or Large category TOC directly. I propose we get rid of the tree and replace it with two categories, one for each template: Category:Categories which use Large category TOC without Automatic category TOC and Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC. Finally, I propose we delete Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC in favor of a hatnote between the two new categories. House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 21:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * The only one to use this category really has been banned and there really is no indication what purpose this serve once the data was collected. So agree with proposal. If at any point in the future this or something similar is needed, recreating isn't that difficult. Gonnym (talk) 10:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Ipswich town preachers
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Category:Oxford University Press Delegate

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 16:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  15:10, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Oxford University Press Delegate to Category:Oxford University Press people
 * Nominator's rationale: Non defining. If not merged, it should be renamed to Oxford University Press "delegates" Mason (talk) 20:12, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Unreal Engine 5 games
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Category:1941 junior college football season

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 * The result of the discussion was: Keep * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 22:53, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:1941 junior college football season to Category:1941 college football season
 * Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Let&#39;srun (talk) 13:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep. Member of an established class of categories. Let'srun, this is another obstructive nomination by you. I am getting very close to seeking a remedy for your behavior. Jweiss11 (talk) 14:19, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge, it is pointless to diffuse junior college seasons by year. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * why is it pointless? I'm not even sure that Category:1941 junior college football season should be a child of Category:1941 college football season instead of a sibling under Category:1941 in American football. That needs to be discussed. Jweiss11 (talk) 20:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The large amount of these categories contains only one article, this is not helpful for navigation between articles at all. The article in the nominated category is also in Category:Junior college football undefeated seasons, and while I am not sure if "undefeated" is a defining characteristic, at least this category does provide the opportunity to navigate easily to a significant number of related articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep, per Jweiss. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:23, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, per Jweiss. Thetreesarespeakingtome (talk) 21:49, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Female drug traffickers
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Category:Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists assassins
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 17:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose splitting Category:Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists assassins to Category:Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists members and Category:Ukrainian assassins
 * Nominator's rationale: There's only one actual page in here along with a redirect. Merge for now, as this page isn't very helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 02:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Dual merge per nom: I created this category, but as the nom points out it doesn't seem to be a useful intersection. GCarty (talk) 06:48, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Dual merge per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 20:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Sexual violence in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 17:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Sexual violence in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict to Category:Wartime sexual violence in Europe and Category:War crimes in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and Category:Wartime sexual violence in Asia
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one page in here, which makes it difficult to navigation between the various related pages in the parent categories. Mason (talk) 00:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Triple merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Triple upmerge for now without prejudice per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 17:01, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:The Legend of Zelda (TV series)
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Works based on The Legend of Zelda. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 17:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting the legend of zelda (tv series)
 * Nominator's rationale: The main and only article for this category was merged. The redirect category could be merged into Category:Works based on The Legend of Zelda, but I am not sure on that. (Oinkers42) (talk) 00:30, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Works based on The Legend of Zelda per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Works based on The Legend of Zelda per above -- Lenticel ( talk ) 06:02, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


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