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Category:17th-century executions by the Province of New York

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:17th-century executions by the Thirteen Colonies. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:01, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:17th-century executions by the Province of New York to Category:17th-century executions by the Thirteen Colonies and Category:People executed by New York (state)
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. There's no need to have a category like this with just a single person in it. Mason (talk) 23:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Perhaps we may suffice with a single merge to Category:17th-century executions by the Thirteen Colonies as the province and the later state of New York aren't exactly the same. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Merge only with Category:17th-century executions by the Thirteen Colonies. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge with Category:17th-century executions by the Thirteen Colonies only. –Konanen (talk) 10:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Women prime ministers of Finland

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:48, 4 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Women prime ministers of Finland to Category:Prime ministers of Finland and Category:Women prime ministers in Europe
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge per WP:NARROWCAT. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:38, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per WP:OCEGRS. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:09, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Women prime ministers of the United Kingdom

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 04:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Women prime ministers of the United Kingdom to Category:Female heads of government in the United Kingdom and Category:Women prime ministers in Europe.
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual Merge per WP:NARROWCAT. Category is already in appropriate subcats of Category:Prime ministers of the United Kingdom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:37, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Cautiously, this category does already have three entries, and it would be an awkward judgement that we are unlikely to have another female PM soon. PatGallacher (talk) 23:45, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @PatGallacher, not saying there won't be, just that the category's scope is too narrow. Omnis Scientia (talk) 00:42, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Dual merge per WP:OCEGRS. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:09, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per WP:CATGENDER, which as I read it is explicitly against having a category for "Female Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom" (sic). I am tempted to say Listify. If List of elected and appointed female heads of state and government had subheadings by country, Female prime ministers of the United Kingdom and Women prime ministers of the United Kingdom could be redirects to one of those sections, but it doesn't. It might be justified to create a list article with three items, with the expectation that there will be more to add in the future. Ham II (talk) 12:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


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Category:NRISref errors

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:48, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting nrisref errors
 * Nominator's rationale: No longer useful to Template:NRISref. This was a tracking category that would track for uses without a database version, but those are not a thing anymore. New NRHP sites do not have this. See Template talk:NRISref. SWinxy (talk) 23:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of MyrtaBeautyQueen

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:53, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: I will drop a note at WT:SPI. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 22:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of MyrtaBeautyQueen to Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of DevilBlack69
 * Nominator's rationale: An older sockmaster was discovered after this category was created. It is helpful to have all the socks in one category for understanding and analyzing long-term abuse. ☆ Bri (talk) 22:13, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Support this does not appear controversial, surely it should be nodded through? 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: If it has been established by the WT:SPI crew (can any documentation of this be shown?), then maybe someone can educate me if this might even qualify for a Speedy merger, since I am a newbie at the procedural side of Wiki. –Konanen (talk) 10:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm the CU who connected MyrtaBeautyQueen to DevilBlack69. I just reviewed the notes and can't see any reason these categories shouldn't be merged.  Go for it.  Note that the category assignments are actually done via the sock templates on the user pages, so what you really need to do is update all those templates; I would suggest leaving a link to this discussion in the edit comment when you do that.  RoySmith (talk) 13:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Support Not even controversial. CharlesWain (talk) 14:35, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Caucasus Jews

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Jews from the Caucasus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:59, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * * Propose deleting caucasus jews
 * Propose renaming Category:Caucasus Jews to Category:Jews from the Caucasus
 * Nominator's rationale: There are two Jewish ethnic groups originating from the Caucasus region: Mountain Jews and Georgian Jews. The term Caucasus Jews currently redirects to "Mountain Jews." These two groups are culturally distinct; they speak different languages and have many differences in customs and culture. However, other Jewish communities have also resided and continue to reside in the Caucasus region, including primarily Ashkenazi Jews, as well as some Sephardic and Bukharan Jews. Therefore, this category does not make sense. Currently, this category encompasses Jews from three modern countries, yet "Caucasus Jews" redirects to "Mountain Jews." Note: I have just separated the entries for category:Jews from Georgia (country) and category:Georgian Jews. Aldij (talk) 11:56, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

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 * If not deleted, rename to Category:Jews in the Caucasus to clarify its purpose. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:55, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If not kept, disambiguate including Category:Mountain Jews and category:Georgian Jews. Surprisingly, these are not within Category:Peoples of the Caucasus. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:36, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That was my mistake; I have already corrected it by adding Category:Peoples of the Caucasus. However, I did not understand your proposal for disambiguation. Category:Mountain Jews and Category:Georgian Jews represent separate ethnic groups, while the current Category:Armenian Jews, Category:Azerbaijani Jews‎ and Category:Jews from Georgia (country)‎ merely denote Jews by nationality. Additionally, the term "Caucasus Jews" redirects to Mountain Jews, which implicitly suggests that it is the primary topic. Aldij (talk) 14:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Oppose The category is fine. I would also be okay with it being named something like Category:Jews in the Caucasus or "from the Caucasus", which would include subcategories for Armenian Jews, Azerbaijani Jews, Georgian Jews, Mountain Jews, and Jews from the Caucasian parts of Russia. The parent category for this should be Category:Jews and Judaism in the Caucasus, along the lines of Category:Islam in the Caucasus. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 13:55, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Thoughts on the updated proposal? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 22:20, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose as the nominator's reasoning is convoluted. The problem lies with an editor who has messed with the two topics "Caucasus Jews" and "Mountain Jews" and not with this category which remains valid, and yes Caucasus Jews spreads over a few countries/regions and ethnicities/people. IZAK (talk) 03:11, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Marcocapelle, Fayenatic, Bohemian Baltimore, IZAK: OK, then I propose renaming this category to Category:Jews from the Caucasus‎, and linking it with category see also to Category:Mountain Jews. Category:Georgian Jews is already linked with category see also to Category:Jews from Georgia (country)‎. --Aldij (talk) 08:40, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Rename to "Jews from the Caucasus" per above discussion. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:12, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Secularism in the Arab world
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 9%23Category:Secularism in the Arab world

Category:Members of the League of Women Voters
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 4%23Category:Members of the League of Women Voters

Category:Former Ikawa Line Stations

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete per author request.  ✗  plicit  13:56, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting former ikawa line stations
 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary, sparsely populated category. Only one other such subcategory in Category:Defunct railway stations in Japan and it contains 22 articles. Gjs238 (talk) 15:03, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Merging is not necessary, the articles are already in Category:Railway stations in Japan closed in 1990. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:49, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Women conservationists
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Category:People by educational institution in Surrey

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:01, 4 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose splitting Category:People by educational institution in Surrey to Category:People from Surrey and Category:People educated by school in England
 * Nominator's rationale: Dual merge; only one category layer. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:17, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Executed people from Surrey

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Executed English people. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:02, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:Executed people from Surrey to Category:People from Surrey and Category:Executed English people
 * Nominator's rationale:  Dual Merge only to Category:Executed English people per discussion below; only one article. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom, although I am not entirely sure of Category:People from Surrey as a merge target. The article only says his father held possessions there. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:21, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Marcocapelle, so should I cut out Surrey then and single merge to "Executed English people"? Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:22, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * if you agree, yes. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Will edit the nomination then. Thanks for catching that fact. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:56, 30 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedians with Asperger syndrome
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Category:Films with scents
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Category:Autonomous oblasts of Russia

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Federal subjects of Russia. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:03, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting autonomous oblasts of russia
 * Nominator's rationale: There is only one Autonomous oblast of Russia the Jewish Autonomous Oblast. No need to have this category, which only has said page and two redirects, when Jewish Autonomous Oblast could be categorized under the cat Federal subjects of Russia. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 08:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge with Category:Federal subjects of Russia. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Indian novelists by language

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 21:42, 4 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting indian novelists by language
 * Nominator's rationale: Are these four subcategories supposed to be for ethnic groups or languages? Either way, these people are not necessarily Indian nationals. –Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 05:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Merging is not necessary, the subcategories are already in Category:Novelists by language and the articles are in Category:Indian novelists. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Mason (talk) 20:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits
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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 16:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits to Category:Former Jesuit universities and colleges
 * Nominator's rationale: The current name is not only awkward and not parallel to the name of the related category for current Jesuit institutions ("Jesuit universities and colleges") but its meaning is also unclear. ElKevbo (talk) 18:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If someone has a (legitimate) concern that "Former Jesuit" is also ambiguous - does it mean "a university or college that was once a Jesuit institution but is no longer a Jesuit institution" or "a Jesuit university or college that is now closed" ? - then "Formerly Jesuit universities and colleges" would resolve that ambiguity. The category does currently include institutions in both of those situations so this may be important. ElKevbo (talk) 20:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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 * It is ambiguous in any case and the distinction between current and former Jesuit is also not enormously important. Manually merge to Category:Jesuit universities and colleges insofar the articles aren't already in country subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Can you please say more about "the distinction between current and former Jesuit is also not enormously important." In my mind, it's a very important distinction as it indicates a very important shift in the institution's mission, organization, and support. ElKevbo (talk) 03:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Every university or college will eventually be closed or taken over. The category is primarily useful to learn about the history of the Jesuits. Category:Universities and colleges established by Jesuits would be a better name except it is rather long. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That's an entirely different subject and you're welcome to establish that category if you feel strongly about it but it doesn't seem terribly relevant to the discussion at hand. And I completely disagree that "the category is primarily useful to learn about the history of the Jesuits" as its primary use is to identify colleges and universities who are identified with that particular religious order. It's less about the history of that order and more about the intended function and role of these colleges and universities.
 * "Every university or college will eventually be closed or taken over" doesn't seem like a very helpful or productive perspective at all. Every religion will eventually fade into disuse or change until it's unrecognizable. The sun will eventually explore destroying all life and structure on the planet. The universe will eventually fade into heat death. None of that is very useful when considering what we should or should not do here and now in this encyclopedia. ElKevbo (talk) 15:50, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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Category:People educated at Coláiste an Phiarsaigh
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 21:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting people educated at coláiste an phiarsaigh
 * Nominator's rationale: Unneeded category - Only 2 entries which I've added to the school article, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose: a list on a single article is no reason to reject a category accomplishing the same task in a different area of the site. Plus, there are now twice as many entries as there were at time of proposal. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 20:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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 * Lean to delete, attandence of a particular secondary school is not a very defining characteristic of an individual person. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:52, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Please see my reply to Peter James here, I guess this can be withdrawn although for the record I'm not happy about it nor do I see a point in having duplicate information... But if EN wants duplicate information for the sake of having duplicate information then who am I to get in the way of that. – Davey 2010 Talk 10:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Categories are not superseded by lists. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
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 * Keep; there are many categories like this. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:46, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:People educated at De La Salle College Dundalk
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 21:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting people educated at de la salle college dundalk
 * Nominator's rationale: Superseded by the same list at De La Salle College Dundalk, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose: a list on a single article is no reason to reject a category accomplishing the same task in a different area of the site. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 20:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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 * Lean to delete, attandence of a particular secondary school is not a very defining characteristic of an individual person. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:52, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Please see my reply to Peter James here, I guess this can be withdrawn although for the record I'm not happy about it nor do I see a point in having duplicate information... But if EN wants duplicate information for the sake of having duplicate information then who am I to get in the way of that. – Davey 2010 Talk 10:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Categories are not superseded by lists. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
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 * Keep; there are many categories like this. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:45, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:People educated at Alcester Grammar School
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 21:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting people educated at alcester grammar school
 * Nominator's rationale: Superseded by the list at Alcester Grammar School, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose: a list on a single article is no reason to reject a category accomplishing the same task in a different area of the site. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 20:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Why would we want duplicating information though ?, Why do we need an under-populated category when a list within an article does the same job ?, Also do you have any sort of link that explicitly states duplicating information is fine because if you do I'd happily close this. – Davey 2010 Talk 00:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Categories are navigational tools, while lists in articles can include way more information. They serve distinct purposes. If we were strict about not repeating any information in different areas of the site, a vast amount of categories would go extinct, including probably all of Category:Works by creator because most of those also have sections/separate articles just for listing their oeuvre. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 04:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Lean to delete, attandence of a particular secondary school is not a very defining characteristic of an individual person. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * There are thousands of such categories. Deleting one makes no sense. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:53, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - Categories, lists, and navigation templates. There are thousands of these in Category:Alumni by secondary school. If they are not defining then all should be deleted. Peter James (talk) 20:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I guess this is one of those things I will never understand, How is a duplicate category "complimentary" when it's literally a duplicate??, Why do we need 2 things of the same thing ?, what is achieved or what is the end goal in having 2 of the same thing ?, I don't get it I truly don't.
 * Nonetheless Categories, lists, and navigation templates renders my whole arguement moot so I guess my only option here is to withdraw, Thank you for providing that guideline it's greatly appreciated, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 10:01, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

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 * Keep. Categories are not superseded by lists. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:53, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
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 * Keep; its one of many categories. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:45, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Racionais MC's songs
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 02:49, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting racionais mc's songs
 * Nominator's rationale: Newly created 1-article category. Gjs238 (talk) 02:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: WP:SMALLCAT (deprecated, but still worth pointing to here as I don't think opinions have changed on this part) makes an exception for Category:Works by creator categories so long as they follow other guidelines, and this one does. Unless the sole entry is itself found deletable (and I have a feeling it wouldn't be) then the category is safe. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 08:40, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep The one article survived an AfD. This is proper and expected categorization per WP:SONG. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 19:21, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Relational art
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 7%23Category:Relational art

Category:Denis Ten Memorial Challenge templates
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 02:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting denis ten memorial challenge templates
 * Nominator's rationale: Do we categorize templates this way? Gjs238 (talk) 01:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete in the spirit of WP:C2F. The content is already in Category:Figure skating championships navigational boxes. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:51, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete No reason to isolate this template all alone in its category. Pichpich (talk) 20:37, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:European Youth Olympic Festival Figure Skating templates
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 02:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting european youth olympic festival figure skating templates
 * Nominator's rationale: Do we categorize templates this way? Gjs238 (talk) 01:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete, the templates are already in established figure skating categories and having just two templates in a new category isn't particularly helpful. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:56, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Nepela Memorial
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 21:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting nepela memorial
 * Nominator's rationale: Do we categorize templates this way? Gjs238 (talk) 01:25, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * If not deleted, at least rename to Category:Nepela Memorial navigational boxes. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete This category is redundant to the figure skating category tree, and blocks a speedy rename of the actual topic category, Category:Ondrej Nepela Memorial, to match Nepela Memorial. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 02:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Post-theists
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 * Propose deleting post-theists
 * Nominator's rationale: Is this category necessary? Gjs238 (talk) 01:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete, not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:59, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:13th-century Baduspanid rulers
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Category:Fanny (band)
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 01:03, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

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 * Propose deleting fanny (band)
 * Nominator's rationale: Too little content: only two cats and two articles (and the two cats only have 4 or 6 articles themselves). ―Justin ( koa v f ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Nepali language movement activists
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 8%23Category:Nepali language movement activists

Category:Images that survived replaceability discussions
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl  talk  18:11, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Images that survived replaceability discussions to Category:Files that survived replaceability discussions
 * Nominator's rationale: The category is for all types of files (including e.g. videos), not just images. House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'll add that I am not wedded to the proposed name (they are not really discussions, just a declined F7c). House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 02:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


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