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Phonologists by nationality

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 04:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Propose renaming
 * Category:American phonologists to Category:Phonologists from the United States
 * Category:British phonologists to Category:Phonologists from the United Kingdom
 * Category:Canadian phonologists to Category:Phonologists from Canada
 * Category:Chinese phonologists to Category:Phonologists from China
 * Category:Dutch phonologists to Category:Phonologists from the Netherlands
 * Category:French phonologists to Category:Phonologists from France
 * Category:German phonologists to Category:Phonologists from Germany
 * Category:Iranian phonologists to Category:Phonologists from Iran
 * Category:Italian phonologists to Category:Phonologists from Italy
 * Category:Japanese phonologists to Category:Phonologists from Japan
 * Category:Polish phonologists to Category:Phonologists from Poland
 * Category:Russian phonologists to Category:Phonologists from Russia
 * Category:Spanish phonologists to Category:Phonologists from Spain

To reduce ambiguity, in the same vein as the subcategories of Category:Linguists by nationality, which were renamed after Categories for discussion/Log/2012 November 13. Nardog (talk) 23:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Lean support. Seems reasonable on its face. But I don't know if I'm missing something obvious.Mason (talk) 23:27, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Not sure. Phonology does not seem to study the subject by every language. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:52, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It does both, as does linguistics as a whole. Regardless, that doesn't change the fact e.g. a "Dutch phonologist" is ambiguous as to whether they're a phonologist from the Netherlands or someone who studies the phonology of Dutch. Nardog (talk) 09:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll leave this to the specialists to decide. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Modern serif typefaces

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 04:26, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: I will tag the category. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 23:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Modern serif typefaces to Category:Didone serif typefaces
 * Nominator's Rationale: Didone is a more common term for this typeface classification. (Didone (typography)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jothefiredragon (talk • contribs)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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Category:Moorlands of the United Kingdom by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 04:26, 8 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Moorlands of the United Kingdom by country to Category:Moorlands of the United Kingdom
 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer. These categories would be the only ones in the merge target Mason (talk) 23:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


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Category:2001 abandonware games for Windows

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 04:27, 8 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:2001 abandonware games for Windows to Category:Abandonware games for Windows
 * Propose merging Category:2002 abandonware games for Windows to Category:Abandonware games for Windows
 * Propose merging Category:2004 abandonware games for Windows to Category:Abandonware games for Windows
 * Propose merging Category:2014 abandonware games for Windows to Category:Abandonware games for Windows
 * Nominator's rationale: There are only a few categories. My mother is asking me to Ocean Grove right now so can't finish up right way. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I want to have categories per year, as now. I created this category recently - there are many abandonware games per every year - please do not merge. Vitaly Zdanevich (talk) 23:51, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge for now, there are only very few articles. I have merged the four nominations to one. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:57, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Hamas bombers
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Category:Intersex rights by region

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 04:28, 8 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Intersex rights by region to Category:Intersex rights
 * Nominator's rationale: Neither of the two categories (by continent), (by country) are regions. Furthermore, the parent category isn't crowded, so having this is the main category is helpful more navigation. Mason (talk) 20:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:46, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Jewish-American history in West Virginia

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 04:28, 8 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Jewish-American history in West Virginia to Category:Jews and Judaism in West Virginia
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge with parent category. There were two other articles which belonged in Category:Synagogues in West Virginia rather than here; I've moved them there. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Hamid Al-Shairi albums

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 04:28, 8 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting hamid al-shairi albums
 * Nominator's rationale: Category with only a single redirect for an album that contains little info beyond its existence at the target article. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 19:26, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Crossover characters in television
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Category:Ming dynasty overseer of rituals
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Category:Tambralinga
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Category:Rulers of Chiang Mai
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Works by year
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Category:Songs from The Three Caballeros

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/they) 04:28, 8 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting songs from the three caballeros
 * Nominator's rationale: Barring the two redirects, none of the articles in this category originate in the film. Fails WP:DEFINING. (Oinkers42) (talk) 04:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete, we only categorize songs written for films. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Illeists
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Category:UCLA Extension alumni
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Category:Paintings by Karl Friedrich Lessing

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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 04:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Paintings by Karl Friedrich Lessing to Category:Paintings by Carl Friedrich Lessing (canceled by nominator, since both forms are actually used)
 * Nominator's rationale: This is the correct form in German, like you can see by the German Wikipedia and other Wikipedias, and also by Wikipedia Commons .Mistico Dois (talk) 02:13, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment, sources mentioned in the article use both C and K. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Answer The more correct and usual form in German is Carl Friedrich Lessing, as you can see by the German Wikipedia. The predominant way is Carl. But unfortunately you are right, both forms appear in a quick search in the Google, for example. But if the German Wikipedia uses the form Carl shouldn't that be the preferable?Mistico Dois (talk) 14:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: Couldn't you make the same argument in reverse? The logic would apply in both directions. (I'm not advocating that English Wikipedia dominates, but my point is that that's not a compelling argument by itself.)Mason (talk) 23:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: Since Carl Friedrich Lessing was German, it makes sense the way his name is usually spelled there, even if there is an alternative way.Mistico Dois (talk) 23:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Lean oppose. German language Wikipedia is not just for German nationals. Further, he looks to have been born in Poland. Again, my point is that your argument isn't very compelling for one Wikipedia to defer to another Wikipedia. Do you have any alternative arguments that don't rely on this premise? Mason (talk) 00:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Final comment Since both forms are used and several Wikipedias use both forms, I think it can go back to the previous form. I'm cancelling my request.Mistico Dois (talk) 00:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


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