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Category:Rebel princes
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Category:Beauty pageant contestants from Lagos

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 * The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:57, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Beauty pageant contestants from Lagos to Category:Nigerian beauty pageant contestants
 * Nominator's rationale: Non-notable intersection User:Namiba 19:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Manually merge, insofar they aren't already deeper down in the tree of Category:Nigerian beauty pageant contestants. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:00, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:American Splendor artists
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Category:Third-person view

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete for now, with no prejudice against recreating the category if more content is found (either under this name or a similar one). (non-admin closure)  Qwerfjkl  talk  17:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Third-person view to Category:Third-person video games
 * Nominator's rationale: I've created this one few minutes ago, but maybe the name should be analogous to Category:First-person video games? Consider the existence of Category:First-person shooters and Category:Third-person shooters, with only the first having a parent category outside shooter games (until my creation). Both have main articles. However, third-person view has a redirect to an article section, while first-person view goes to a disambig, sigh. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  17:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * what other content are you planning to add to this category? That will provide the answer to the question. If topic articles are going to be added then "view" seems the right name. If only video games are going to be added then "video games" is the obvious right name. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:29, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl  talk  16:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I guess you missed my previous ping. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Marcocapelle Right now I am not sure what else to add to this category. Which is why I think renaming it to be analogues to Category:First-person video games, as I suggested, is more correct than my initial name. Do you have any thoughts on this? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  01:27, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If there isn't anything going to be added on a short term then the category might as well be deleted, because of lack of content. It can be recreated when it is more clear what sort of content there is. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:19, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete for now without prejudice per Marcocapelle. I can't think of anything else to add either. There are lots of other games that are third person, but that is either WP:NONDEFINING because virtually no other game of that genre (say, RPG, survival, puzzles etc.), uses first-person view, uses bird's eye view or isometric view (e.g. RTS games), or you can switch between first and third person (sometimes even second person). "Third-person shooter" is the only commonly used term in video gaming that I know of. NLeeuw (talk) 23:01, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Armenian screenwriters by century
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Category:Nigerian gay writers

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 * The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:Nigerian LGBT writers as well as Category:Nigerian gay men and Category:Nigerian lesbians, respectively. (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Nigerian gay writers to Category:Nigerian LGBT writers
 * Propose merging Category:Nigerian lesbian writers to Category:Nigerian LGBT writers
 * Nominator's rationale: Only 1 or 2 articles, too small to aid navigation. All are already in the appropriate sub-categories. User:Namiba 15:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Dual merge, also to Category:Nigerian gay men and Category:Nigerian lesbians respectively. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Populated places on the Underground Railroad
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Caribbean people by descent‎

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 15:16, 16 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Aruban people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Aruban people by descent
 * Propose renaming Category:Curaçao people by ethnic or national origin‎ to Category:Curaçao people by descent
 * Propose renaming Category:Sint Maarten people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Sint Maarten people by descent
 * Propose renaming Category:United States Virgin Islands people by ethnic or national origin to Category:United States Virgin Islands people by descent
 * Propose renaming Category:Caribbean people by ethnic or national origin‎ to Category:Caribbean people by descent
 * Nominator's rationale: rename for consistency with their subcategories which are all "by descent", as well as for consistency with Category:North American people by descent at the top of the tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 08:26, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 05:52, 12 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Extinct Indigenous peoples of Australia
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Category:Religious buildings and structures destroyed in the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent
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Category:Conspiracist media
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Category:Disinformation operations

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 * The result of the discussion was: purge (and reevaluate after purging). (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting disinformation operations
 * Nominator's rationale: This category contains medias that are mainstream, and most of these are from certain countries. Coddlebean (talk) 06:08, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment I don't feel qualified to be a great judge in the matter, but it does seem to be a bit of an WP:ARBITRARYCAT. Disinformation operations definitely exist, but what does that mean exactly for categorisation purposes? Sure, Category:Government spokespersons of Russia spread a lot of disinformation, no doubt about that; but does that make them "operations"? I don't think that makes grammatical sense. Perhaps this category just needs to be Purged? NLeeuw (talk) 06:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Purge, to begin with. There are nuanced differences between disinformation, misinformation, propaganda and fake news and this category contains all of that. As we have Category:Misinformation, Category:Fake news and Category:Propaganda as well, it would make sense to remove all articles and subcategories from Category:Disinformation operations if they are already in one of the three other trees. After that is done we may re-evaluate what to do with this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:11, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support purge Seems like a good approach to begin with. NLeeuw (talk) 23:05, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support purge and, as for the justification for this delete, these are not mainstream media; they are something else. Whether or not they are mostly from certain countries is beside the point; they are from wherever they are from. And whether or not they are even media is beside the point, since this category is about 'operations'.  The same justification has been used into several deletion requests here. Hmains (talk) 19:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Hindu temples destroyed by Muslims
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Category:Continental League contributors
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Category:Continental League
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Category:Singles by decade by record label
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Category:Philosophers of theodicy

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:22, 17 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Philosophers of theodicy to Category:Philosophers of religion
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. I don't think we need to diffuse this category by the specific question in the philosophy of religion, especially since this cateogory only has one person it it. Mason (talk) 02:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom, this doesn't seem to be a particularly useful subdivision of Category:Philosophers of religion. Psychastes (talk) 02:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge or delete, a merge may be unnecessary because the article is already in Category:Existentialist theologians, part of Category:Religious philosophers. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:47, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


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Category:Philosophers by ethnicity

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster  (talk · he/him) 00:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting philosophers by ethnicity
 * Propose deleting yoruba philosophers
 * Propose deleting basque philosophers
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:OCEGRS, there doesn't seem to be a reason why philosophers should be categorized by ethnicity Psychastes (talk) 02:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment. If not deleted, I think that Jewish philosophers‎ should be added to Category:Philosophers by ethnicity. Mason (talk) 13:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:48, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


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