Wikipedia:Closure requests/Archive 17

Talk:2014 Jerusalem synagogue attack/Archive 3
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:2014 Jerusalem synagogue attack/Archive 3 ? The "Media coverage" section is currently in the article. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Drmies (talk) 02:46, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Windy Corner, Isle of Man
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Windy Corner, Isle of Man ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Drmies (talk) 02:47, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Safety of electronic cigarettes/Archive 1
It was archived. The RfC is still relevant to the page. QuackGuru ( talk ) 06:26, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Drmies (talk) 23:21, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Kurds
Could an experienced editor, preferably an admin, close this RFC. It concerns whether there should be references in the lead to the Kurds being an "Iranian people". It's a highly contentious topic that is prone to drive-by edit-warring. A proposal to resolve the issue was made in the following thread and discussion now seems to come to an end. But the drive-by edit warring continues. It would be good to see if we have a long-term solution out of the RFC, backed by an experienced editor's assessment. DeCausa (talk) 20:55, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Drmies (talk) 23:17, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Newport Beach, California
Requesting an uninvolved editor to close this RfC that I initiated. Most were "no", although Nyttend voted no but stated the temple should be included. I would appreciate someone reviewing the arguments and close the RfC. [] Thanks, Bahooka (talk) 01:23, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by User:JzG. Drmies (talk) 23:10, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Manhattan
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Manhattan ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Guy (Help!) 18:38, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Speedy keep
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Speedy keep ? The discussion was listed at and archived from Template:Centralized discussion. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Guy (Help!) 18:39, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Michael Grimm (politician)/Archive 1
Not closed but I trust the consensus is clear enough for an unambiguous closure. One editor asserted there had never been any prior discussions - see also Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive196, Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive199, Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive197. Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive243 has removal of "fucking" proper per WP:BLP, Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive829, Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive244 , Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive831, which as a group rather suggest, in my opinion, that this has been discussed and discussed and discussed - each time with the with he same result -- we do not need "fucking" as part of a quote in a BLP. Cheers. Collect (talk) 16:47, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Drmies (talk) 22:42, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:David Kay
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:David Kay ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Drmies (talk) 20:50, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Bible
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Bible ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Drmies (talk) 20:39, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:List of Tenchi Muyo! characters
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of Tenchi Muyo! characters ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅, you should really have a look at that discussion. Drmies (talk) 02:30, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 January 5
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 January 5? Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 19:05, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by Martijn Hoekstra. Natg 19 (talk) 18:07, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Administrators noticeboard/Incidents
Will an uninvolved administrator please assess the consensus (if any) at Administrators noticeboard/Incidents and close the thread. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:15, 15 February 2015 (UTC
 * Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents is the recent section, with a concise summary of report. --Lapadite (talk) 22:50, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


 * ✅ Drmies (talk) 23:05, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Oseltamivir
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Oseltamivir ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. Guy (Help!) 23:53, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Edit warring
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Edit warring ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done  Sunrise    (talk)  02:31, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Deletion review/Log/2015 February 8
Open for a week longer than the usual 1-week listing with no comments since the 15th. Stifle (talk) 10:29, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 23:59, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Libertarianism
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Libertarianism ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Number   5  7  16:52, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Dabangg
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Dabangg ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by JzG. Number   5  7  16:53, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Arab Winter
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Arab Winter ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Number   5  7  16:55, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * It looks like editors have already resolved this on their own.  Sunrise    (talk)  02:33, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Economic growth
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Economic growth ? The opening poster wrote: "Which version of the income equality section more accurately reflects the findings of the peer reviewed literature reviews, Marek's or Ellen's?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Number   5  7  16:59, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:George Zimmerman
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:George Zimmerman ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Number   5  7  17:01, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Jersey City, New Jersey
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Jersey City, New Jersey ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by JzG. Number   5  7  17:04, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Hamas
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Hamas ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * done Drmies (talk) 23:31, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * done Drmies (talk) 23:37, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Templates for discussion/Log/2015 January 22
Discussion has been ongoing for two months and it's only been getting more heated. No sign of consensus for merging in sight. Alakzi (talk) 01:25, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I second Alakzi's request above. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:40, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, for a timeline of this TfD see Special:Diff/645054843. There was a 20-day 'break period' I neglected to mention; I apologise. Alakzi (talk) 02:29, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done Drmies (talk) 23:44, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Slavic speakers of Greek Macedonia
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Slavic speakers of Greek Macedonia ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done Drmies (talk) 21:11, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Linking
This RfC has only been going on for three weeks, but the discussion has well and truly ended, with no contribution for more than a week. (Also, it's a continuation of a previous discussion, and so the issue has been dragging on a long time.) I thought the consensus was clear to exclude the text under discussion, but I checked with the lone "include" !voter and he or she didn't think so. [] StAnselm (talk) 19:52, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done Drmies (talk) 21:14, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Archive269
Would an admin assess the consensus at Administrators' noticeboard/Archive269 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:37, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done. Cunard (talk) 01:18, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Harassment
RFC finished a while back and nobody's commented for around a week. Can an admin please assess consensus and close? Bosstopher (talk) 22:54, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done by JzG.  Sunrise    (talk)  06:14, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Template talk:Infobox officeholder
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Template talk:Infobox officeholder ? Please consider the closed RfCs Template talk:Infobox officeholder/Archive 18 (Initiated 6 May 2014) and Template talk:Succession box (Initiated 26 November 2014) in your close. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This is covered in Kraxler's request below where the argument that a close where the closer finds strong arguments against a proposal is not valid, although the policies and guidelines specify that a closer may due so.  The Successionbox close is not at issue as the infobox != successionbox.  Cheers. Collect (talk) 14:39, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: I didn't see this request for closure, and added three days later a second request for closure for the same RfC further down. This should be marked as stale. RfC was closed in the meanwhile. Kraxler (talk) 16:54, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done by JzG. Cunard (talk) 01:18, 26 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Template talk:Infobox officeholder duplicate
 * Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Template talk:Infobox officeholder ? Please consider the closed RfCs Template talk:Infobox officeholder/Archive 18 (Initiated 6 May 2014) and Template talk:Succession box (Initiated 26 November 2014) in your close. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Note: I did not see the abovementioned post by Cunard, and unwittingly duplicated the request three days later. I restored the original request, because the subsequent closing is in the process of being reviewed, for completeness sake, and it might become relevant. Kraxler (talk) 11:58, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Would an uninvolved administrator please assess consensus and close this discussion? Thank you. Kraxler (talk) 16:52, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The RfC was closed with a faulty rationale by User:JzG. Could someby have another look at it. I added a comment there to make clear what I find fault with. Kraxler (talk) 13:56, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose as the closure was fine except the proposer thinks "arguments against are rather strong" is an invalid close. The proposer now thinks he can unilaterally  void the prior RfC by  I hereby give notice that the previous "consensus" is no further recognized as such. You can't eat your cake and have it too.  I suggest we abide by WP:CONSENSUS and recognize that a closer may note  the arguments against are rather strong without facing this sort of request (noting the closer   was not notified of this action) Collect (talk) 14:36, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The closing rationale is faulty because it is not discernable what was the result. Especially in relation to the previously established "consensus". So what was the result? The closer states that there was consensus for the proposal, but somehow, with parts struck through, there is something else. Also, if 20 can not establish enough consensus to be taken seriously, why could 14? Come on Collect, that's a simple question. Why can 14, and 20 can not? I would be willing to respect consensus, if someone could tell me what is the consensus. Kraxler (talk) 15:10, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Template talk:Prostitution in Canada
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Template talk:Prostitution in Canada ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done Hi DrNick ! 02:41, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive874
This thread, which eilicited substantial discussion and polling, has been auto-archived without closure. In fairness to all and to avoid repeating discussion of these issues in the future, an Admin is needed to undo the archiving and evaluate consensus in order to resolve this matter. Thanks. SPECIFICO talk  14:42, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done (Unarchived to [[WP:ANI]]) Hi DrNick ! 03:03, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The discussion is now at Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive875. Cunard (talk) 20:04, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Doctor
—174.141.182.82 (talk) 18:02, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done by JzG. Number   5  7  16:48, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Speedy keep
Would an admin assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Speedy keep Thanks,   21:22, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done by JzG. Number   5  7  16:46, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Deletion review/Log/2015 February 19
Would an admin look at these three DRV discussions, close them and eventually re-close (or relist wit an appropriate rationale) the three relevant AfDs? The situation requires an immediate action, as the AfD closes were vacated and the three AfDs are "virtually" reopened, and, citing one editor, "AfD and DRV running on the same article at the same time is just crazy". Cavarrone 07:00, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done by Salvidrim!. Cunard (talk) 01:18, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
Would an uninvolved administrator please assess consensus and close this discussion? Much obliged. RGloucester — ☎ 05:02, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done. Off to don my tin hat now. Guy (Help!) 22:08, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 29
I would close these, but I am closing too many of them. However, I can provide procedural help for anyone who is unfamiliar with how to close discussions and would like to help with closing. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:10, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Template:Infobox university faculty
 * Template:Infobox medical college
 * Template:Bgr
 * Template:Grey line
 * Template:Bg-c
 * Template:Infobox Taiwan station
 * Template:Infobox Election Campaign
 * Template:Infobox Electoral reform
 * Template:Infobox gunpowder plotter
 * Template:Quotation
 * Template:Bq
 * Template:Infobox Cambridge college (closed)
 * Template:Welcome-anon-border (closed)
 * — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 15:58, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * All of these have been ✅  Sunrise    (talk)  08:03, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Templates for discussion backlog
Would an experienced editor please assess the consensus at the following template discussions:


 * Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 29 –
 * Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 29 -
 * Done by Frietjes - closed as redirect. Natg 19 (talk) 07:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 29 –
 * Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 29 –
 * Done by Martijn Hoekstra - closed as delete. Steel1943  (talk) 22:28, 14 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 29 –
 * Done by Martijn Hoekstra - closed as no consensus. Natg 19 (talk) 07:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 29 –
 * Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 29 –
 * Done by Edokter - closed as delete. Natg 19 (talk) 07:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 29 –
 * Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 29 –
 * Done by Jackmcbarn - closed as subst and delete. Steel1943  (talk) 05:11, 15 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 29–
 * Done by Mr. Stradivarius - closed as no consensus. Natg 19 (talk) 07:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 29 –
 * Done by Mr. Stradivarius - closed as delete. Natg 19 (talk) 07:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 29 –
 * Done by Mr. Stradivarius - closed as delete. Natg 19 (talk) 07:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 29 -
 * Done by Oiyarbepsy - closed as don't merge. Natg 19 (talk) 07:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 08:39, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
 * All of these have been ✅  Sunrise    (talk)  08:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Village pump (proposals)/Archive 118
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Village pump (proposals)/Archive 118 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)


 * The consensus seems clear, but from the page history it seems that this was never advertised as an RfC. As such, I'm not sure if a close would be helpful here, since it could be challenged on the grounds of needing input from a wider section of the community before a site-wide change. Any thoughts on closing with this rationale, and/or reopening the discussion with the RfC template attached?  Sunrise    (talk)  05:58, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I would be fine with closing it or reopening and relisting it as an RfC. Cunard (talk) 01:08, 27 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I lean towards relisting myself - I think it's the wisest choice given the potential problems should the closure be challenged. I'd prefer input from at least a couple more editors before proceeding with that though. :-)  Sunrise    (talk)  08:01, 28 February 2015 (UTC)


 * There's actually no point in relisting it. The WMF has already already weighed in on this discussion here stating that the proposal to re-enable Moodbar at Enwiki has been declined.  I'll close the proposal and direct folks to that discussion for clarification. I, JethroBT drop me a line 09:23, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * done. I, JethroBT drop me a line 09:34, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Public Ivy
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Public Ivy ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by JzG. Cunard (talk) 01:31, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 4
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 4? Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 21:09, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by Swarm. Cunard (talk) 01:31, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 4
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 4? Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 21:09, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by JzG. Cunard (talk) 01:31, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Archive269
Would an admin assess the consensus at Administrators' noticeboard/Archive269 ? A discussion participant wrote: "Since there appears to be no agreement between myself and involved admins, I would like to request closure by an uninvolved admin." Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:37, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ❌ - stale. There's nothings to be changed, anyway; consensus that the original close is fine is pretty obvious; if it wasn't, it wouldn't have been archived off ANI without further comment.  Marking yes to uncategorize.   Hi DrNick ! 17:36, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Village pump (proposals)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Village pump (proposals) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Done @ Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_118 -- slakr \ talk / 16:53, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football
This is a discussion on a topic that has, in the past, proved so controversial that general sanctions are in force. For that reason, and because of the general sanctions, it would be very useful for us to actually have an external editor judge whether consensus has been reached or not - as opposed to the discussion just being removed mysteriously from the page with no explanation given beyond an edit summary claiming that no admin is needed. The risk at present is that people might act on a consensus that they believe might exist in this discussion, only to be sanctioned under the general sanctions if admins at WP:AN disagree. It may be that no admin is formally needed to close the discussion - any uninvolved editor can close the discussion after all - but it would be entirely false to say that a close would serve no purpose or is not needed. It really is.

So would an uninvolved editor please close the discussion. If you feel the point is obvious, then great! In that case, please close it with a statement of the obvious. But it does need to be closed. Kahastok talk 23:01, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * As the initiator of the discussion in question, I concur with the need for an uninvolved editor or admin to review the discussion and determine whether a consensus has indeed been reached. The whole purpose of this discussion, as touched upon, was to determine a consensus for the use of metric vs. imperial units in the infobox of various personnel in association football. Without getting into too much detail here, the desire is to have a WikiProject-wide guideline for the use of height and weight units and how they would be inserted without the need for a discussion on every article which might be UK related as presently required by WP:GS/UKU. The need for an uninvolved editor or admin is to avoid any appearance of the process being railroaded by a few editors. — Jkudlick t c s 00:19, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

This has now been archived here, but a close remains relevant. Would somebody please close it? Kahastok talk 09:28, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Done by someone else. -- slakr \ talk / 16:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Village pump (proposals)/Archive 118
I started this discussion, and I was expecting an automatic closure because I didn't know how the system worked. It was automatically archived. Is it too late? − Thisismyrofl (talk) 06:07, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Done (noted above) -- slakr \ talk / 17:13, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters
Would an an uninvolved administrator please assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters after February 16 at 00:16 UTC. Note that the discussion is over 40,000 words. Thank you. SchreiberBike talk 02:55, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Done -- slakr \ talk / 23:59, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Magnum Crimen
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Magnum Crimen ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Done by someone else -- slakr \ talk / 01:09, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
Would an uninvolved admin consider closing this? Initially it seemed like a case of WP:POT, but now I don't know what it is.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 03:49, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Done by someone else -- slakr \ talk / 01:13, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC to physically restrict access to the Helper Script
states : ''This RfC will run for 30 days or until a clear consensus emerges. It is recommended that this RfC be closed by an Admin - one who has no previous involvement in the AfC process.'' This RfC for an emergency measure has run for 11 days and participation  has tailed off; a consensus appears to  have been reached so would an uninvolved admin please consider closing it. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:10, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

From here at WP:AN: Cunard (talk) 08:08, 16 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I see that an involved party (namely, the user making the original proposal) has taken it upon himself to close the RfC even though he is *not* uninvolved, the RfC has only run for 15 of the normal 30 days and the proposal is controversial. I believe this should be reverted at once, but would prefer not to become involved in an edit war by reverting it myself. Comments? K7L (talk) 06:46, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


 * The close was overturned at Administrators' noticeboard/Archive269. Cunard (talk) 01:18, 26 February 2015 (UTC)


 * 30 days have passed. The discussion can now be closed. Cunard (talk) 01:32, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by Mdann52. Cunard (talk) 20:04, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (films)
Discusion has tapered off but a single editor won't let the matter drop, threatening to initiate their proposed changes if editors will not continue participating. It really needs to be formally closed so everyone involved can move on. Betty Logan (talk) 23:33, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Closed. SamuelDay1 (talk) 13:39, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Premature close request. It had not yet been 30 days (even since the start of the previous RFC), no examples of a “series subject” title (which is not also a series name) have yet been given, and concerns about name/subject confusion have yet to be addressed. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 12:11, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It's the same WP:POINTY discussion going no-where and fast. Re-closed.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 12:21, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * There’s nothing POINTy about it. The text seems problematic for reasons I’ve outlined, and no article titles seem to abide by it. Unless “subject” is another word for “name,” this has not yet been addressed. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 12:30, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It's only problematic to you. SchroCat's text at the bottom of the section sums it up perfectly.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 12:34, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It would be problematic to a good many more people if it’s ever followed, and I broke it down here. Consensus isn’t (properly) measured by simple vote count, but by the strength of the arguments. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 12:57, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by SamuelDay1. Cunard (talk) 20:04, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Kit Carson

 * Please close any RfCs about Kit Carson if they have run out of "response" time. One editor makes editing and progress hopeless. He/she admits knowing nothing about Carson, but finds something to "snaggle" the article's progress at every turn. Thanks! SeeSpot Run (talk) 19:43, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Talk:Kit Carson was closed by SPACKlick. Cunard (talk) 20:04, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Move review/Log/2015 March
Kindly assess consensus and close this MR. RGloucester  — ☎ 18:17, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done --BDD (talk) 14:42, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Village pump (policy)/Archive 118

 * Please assess consensus (for main and/or alternate proposals) and close the discussion, which will provide guidance for editors., with no new comments for a week. ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  01:34, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Done  Sandstein   18:40, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Battle of the Somme
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Battle of the Somme ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done  Sunrise    (talk)  23:23, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Israel
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Israel ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done  Sunrise    (talk)  05:44, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Israel
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Israel ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done  Sandstein   12:58, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Islam
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Islam ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done  Sandstein   12:52, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Blue
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Blue ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done  Sandstein   12:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters
Can an uninvolved editor please assess the consensus for change? Cinderella157 (talk) 03:34, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done Formerip (talk) 00:45, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Johann Hari
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Johann Hari ? The opening poster wrote: "Is an extended section on 'Criticism of apology' proper in this BLP?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC) Done NE Ent 23:54, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Robert Kagan
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Robert Kagan ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Done NE Ent 00:09, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Template talk:Armed Iraqi groups in the Iraq War and the Iraq Civil War
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Template talk:Armed Iraqi groups in the Iraq War and the Iraq Civil War ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * close Mdann52 (talk) 11:49, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Shape of My Heart (Backstreet Boys song)
Discussion has tapered off; consensus seems clear but someone not involved should look at it. -- Calidum 21:03, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * close Mdann52 (talk) 12:01, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Sugar (Maroon 5 song)
Discussion has tapered off; requesting closing. –Chase (talk / contribs) 17:04, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * close Mdann52 (talk) 12:01, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Templates for discussion/Log/2015 February 19
Little or no input here. Requesting for a closure as it's been dragging on for sometime.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 10:20, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * close Mdann52 (talk) 12:06, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Reliable sources/Noticeboard
This should be an easy one. The discussion is straying off-topic and is being perpetuated unnecessarily. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 19:41, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done. As you say, easy. Guy (Help!) 22:32, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:David M. Cote
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:David M. Cote ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure there's anything to close here - it looks like the RfC was advertised more to bring attention to the issue rather than to answer any specific question. Anyways, I've added a comment.  Sunrise    (talk)  23:05, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * done feedback provided. Cunard (talk) 00:50, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:List of American federal politicans convicted of crimes
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of American federal politicans convicted of crimes ? The opening poster wrote: "This article specifies: :This list consists of American politicians convicted of crimes either committed or prosecuted while holding office in the federal government. It includes politicians who were convicted or pleaded guilty in a court of law; and does not include politicians involved in unprosecuted scandals (which may or may not have been illegal in nature), or politicians who have only been arrested or indicted. The list also does not include crimes which occur outside the politician’s tenure unless they specifically stem from acts while they were in office. Was Spiro Agnew convicted while in Federal office or prosecuted while in Federal office for 'acts committed while (he) was in office'?" Please consider the RfC close of Talk:List of American federal politicans convicted of crimes (Initiated 19 July 2012) and Talk:David M. Cote (Initiated 26 January 2015) in your close. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * close Mdann52 (talk) 12:39, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Brian Williams/Archive 1
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Brian Williams/Archive 1 ? The opening poster wrote: "Should the section on the Iraq helicopter story include Brian Williams' recounting of the story as he told it on January 30, 2015 on the Nightly News?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * No formal close seems like it's needed. Consensus is clear, it is not really a contentious issue, and has had little participation. ❌ Mdann52 (talk) 12:41, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done to record the consensus. Cunard (talk) 00:50, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * close Mdann52 (talk) 12:45, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Snoop Dogg
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Snoop Dogg ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done, in as much as there was anything to do. Guy (Help!) 22:35, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Uber (company)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Uber (company) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ❌ No formal close needed - consensus seems clear to the participants, who have got on and implemented this, no need for us to intervene. Mdann52 (talk) 12:51, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done to record the consensus. Cunard (talk) 00:50, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Misnomer
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Misnomer ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC) Done Robert McClenon (talk) 04:52, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Rosamund Pike
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Rosamund Pike ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Done Robert McClenon (talk) 04:46, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Head of state
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Head of state ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Resolved by the removal of the image in question.  Sunrise    (talk)  02:23, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done noting that the image was removed and asking editors to relist the RfC at ANRFC if the image is restored. Cunard (talk) 00:50, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 12
Can an uninvolved admin assess the consensus on this RFD ? Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 19:31, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done I can see why that one hung around. Guy (Help!) 21:42, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Move review/Log/2015 February
A week has passed since the last comments. PaleAqua (talk) 15:11, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done Probably not the last we'll hear of that one. Guy (Help!) 21:56, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Done by someone else -- slakr \ talk / 03:34, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Amy Pascal/Archives/2015
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Amy Pascal/Archives/2015 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC) done Guy (Help!) 22:55, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Hydraulic fracturing
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Hydraulic fracturing ? The opening poster wrote: "Should the Hydraulic fracturing article include (A) a discussion of health risks? (B) a discussion of the health reasons for which New York State banned the practice?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 22:29, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:The Dark Side of the Moon
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:The Dark Side of the Moon ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 21:32, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Deathstroke
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Deathstroke ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 21:34, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Christ myth theory/Archive 54
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Christ myth theory/Archive 54 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done. I eagerly await another week of new talk page messages. Guy (Help!) 23:23, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Deletion process
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Wikipedia talk:Deletion process ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Done -- slakr \ talk / 03:19, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Village pump (proposals)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Village pump (proposals) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Done -- slakr \ talk / 03:11, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

File:TcshAndShScreenCapture.png
Free use has been questioned based on the inclusion of certain Apple graphical elements in this screenshot of tcsh and sh running side-by-side on a Mac OSX desktop. Msnicki (talk) 19:54, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done File deleted by . (non-admin closure)  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 07:56, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television
The discussion has been going on for 10 days, rather than the typical 30 for an RfC, but the same arguments are being repeated over and over by the same small number of editors who still commenting. Since one editor has said he feels that RfC decisions are not binding on him, it might be time for an admin to examine the RfC, which is becoming an unwieldy length. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:27, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done Thank you for raising this, it needed closing. Guy (Help!) 21:29, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Deletion review/Log/2015 March 8
Would an admin assess the consensus at Deletion review/Log/2015 March 8 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:31, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 21:18, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Deletion review/Log/2015 March 9
Would an admin assess the consensus at Deletion review/Log/2015 March 9 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:31, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 21:19, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Ceres (dwarf planet)
Could an uninvolved admin please assess the consensus at Talk:Ceres (dwarf planet), a requested move of a popular and featured article? Thanks, StringTheory11 (t • c) 15:32, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done Cheers, Hi DrNick ! 13:42, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:International Space Station
Needs any un-involved editor to assess and close. Thanks! EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 14:35, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 23:19, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Bhutanese passport
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Bhutanese passport ? Please the RfC close of Talk:Bhutanese passport (Initiated 14 January 2015) in your close. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done AlbinoFerret  17:09, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject World's Oldest People
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject World's Oldest People ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done. I, JethroBT drop me a line 19:35, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:International Space Station
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:International Space Station ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC) Close EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 13:00, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 14
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 14 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Already done by Jc37. SD0001 (talk) 19:43, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 22
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 22 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Already done SD0001 (talk) 19:45, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2015 February 17
Could an admin please close this discussion of an unusual category as Hafspajen is going spare. Bishonen &#124; talk 10:00, 24 March 2015 (UTC). He's decorating my talkpage with images of despair and melancholy. Bishonen &#124; talk 10:28, 24 March 2015 (UTC).
 * Done Discussion closed as 'keep' - SD0001 (talk) 11:35, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Christian terrorism (2nd nomination)
Now beset with an edit war over closing due to a contested NAC; could an admin step in please? Mangoe (talk) 12:06, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * already done by Coffee. SD0001 (talk) 11:39, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Listroiderbob/tagging
Will an administrator determine the consensus for this request? Discussion is inactive since 4 March. SD0001 (talk) 19:56, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * already done by xaiosflux. Guy (Help!) 18:23, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Maxcrc/Countries without frost
Will an administrator determine the consensus for this request? Discussion is inactive since 4 March. SD0001 (talk) 19:56, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Done Guy (Help!) 18:27, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Village pump (proposals)
We need this closed one way or another. A result is needed to determine if the config change request should be made. Cenarium (talk) 21:37, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Filed in Phabricator, archived, no formal close seems to be needed here. Mdann52 (talk) 12:07, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Cenarium, the discussion's initiator, would appreciate a close. I think that we should respect his/her wishes. Link to the discussion Village pump (proposals)/Archive 119. I don't know what Phabricator is, but would the closer link to Phabricator in their close? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:50, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It has been filed already by me as T91934. As I have done this, if someone else wishes to close to support this, they can feel free, although this appears to have already been accepted as consensus, and is waiting for implementation. Mdann52 (talk) 19:05, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It's fine if someone else considers there is consensus and makes the phab request. We don't need a formal close, it's just that I didn't want to make the phab request myself since I had initiated the village pump discussion. Cenarium (talk) 18:53, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ❌ per above. Thanks for taking initiative on the request, Cenarium. I, JethroBT drop me a line 01:06, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ to add a link to the Phabricator request. Cunard (talk) 00:18, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2015 January 1
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Categories for discussion/Log/2015 January 1 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by Ymblanter. Cunard (talk) 00:18, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2015 January 1
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Categories for discussion/Log/2015 January 1 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by jc37. Cunard (talk) 00:18, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Japonic languages
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Japonic languages ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Done // coldacid (talk&#124;contrib) 17:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Village pump (proposals)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Village pump (proposals) ? The discussion is listed at Template:Centralized discussion. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Already done - SD0001 (talk) 18:05, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Village pump (proposals)
An admin is requested to close Village pump (proposals). Thank you. Tony Tan98  ·  talk  14:19, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Already done SD0001 (talk) 18:06, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
Proposed on March 13. The issue has caused a good deal of heat (compare the other subthreads immediately above), so would an uninvolved admin please assess consensus. Bishonen &#124; talk 18:11, 31 March 2015 (UTC).
 * Done by Mr. Stradivarius. Bishonen &#124; talk 18:16, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Deletion review/Log/2015 March 5
Would an admin assess the consensus at Deletion review/Log/2015 March 5 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:31, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Already done - jc37 17:57, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Ag-gag
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Ag-gag ? The opening poster wrote: "Does the present article title comply with WP:POVTITLE? If not, what changes are needed?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done - jc37 21:28, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:TurboTax/Archives/2015
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:TurboTax/Archives/2015 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done - jc37 06:33, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Azure
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Azure ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done - jc37 21:45, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Djokovic–Federer rivalry
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Djokovic–Federer rivalry ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  03:41, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
Would an uninvolved admin please assess this discussion? Two users seem to start threads every week arguing about each other and it's becoming annoying.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 03:27, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 *  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 00:42, 19 March 2015 (UTC)


 * done. The discussion was archived to Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive877. Cunard (talk) 00:14, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Bharatiya Janata Party
Consensus seems apparent, but requires formal closure, because the topic is highly contentious, and the outcome of RfCs is disputed every time. Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:26, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done by . Cunard (talk) 00:14, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
I request closing by an uninvolved admin. Thanks. QuackGuru (talk) 00:56, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The "Proposed topic ban for AlbinoFerret" section has been closed but a subsection remains open. See Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. The closing admin wrote: "I have left the primary thread open for now because I'd like to let the discussion about Discretionary Sanctions run for another day before closing to make sure the community really wants that." Cunard (talk) 00:50, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * done by . Cunard (talk) 00:14, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Alejandro González Iñárritu
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Alejandro González Iñárritu ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  14:58, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:British Nigerian
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:British Nigerian ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  16:56, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:New Morning (Misia album)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:New Morning (Misia album) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  15:14, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  16:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Altaic languages
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Altaic languages ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  17:54, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Slavic speakers of Greek Macedonia
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Slavic speakers of Greek Macedonia ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  23:41, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Human rights in Northern Cyprus
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Human rights in Northern Cyprus ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  21:18, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musicians

 * Note: This thread was originally listed here.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 17:24, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

We could use an uninvolved editor to gauge the discussion and determine consensus so as to close the RfC at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Musicians. Thanks in advance! Binksternet (talk) 12:03, 17 March 2015 (UTC) done Alsee (talk) 20:33, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Eliza Jane Scovill
Can an experienced editor assess the consensus at the above page? With eight responses to the RfC the consensus seems pretty clear (6 keep vs. 2 remove); however several of the responses sort of straddle the fence - especially since the original question posed in the lead was changed - and I am still uncertain what should be done with the relevant section in the article, if anything needs to be done at all. Thanks. Banedon (talk) 03:31, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

done Kraxler (talk) 18:24, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Village pump (policy)/Archive 118
RfC which opened in February and has attracted a lot of opinions, however the RfC period as long passed and discussion has slowed significantly. Request assessment and close. Thanks. Ivanvector (talk) 17:40, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

done - jc37 05:42, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Abraham Lincoln
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Abraham Lincoln ? The opening poster wrote: "Does the current discussion of Lincoln's habeas corpus suspension (Abraham_Lincoln) have the right balance of detail? Is it fair? Biased? " Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  17:04, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Template talk:War
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Template talk:War ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  20:09, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Ryukyu Kingdom
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Ryukyu Kingdom ? The opening poster wrote: "Should the infobox read 'Member of the Imperial Chinese tributary system' or 'Tributary state of Ming Dynasty, Tributary state of Qing Dynasty'? See above sections for background and already-stated arguments; see Talk:Goryeo for a similar RfC." Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * not done This has a lot of salient discussion, and nice to see references, but it still seems to be in the "brainstorming" phase. I suggest delisting this one, but leave it open, suggesting they come back here when they're closer to a consensus, or someone flips a coin, or whatever. - jc37 06:23, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I missed your comment, and was closing it, when I did read it. I undid what I did. AlbinoFerret  15:19, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Nod. One of the main things to consider when closing an rfc from this page is whether it "needs" to be closed. If the result is "no consensus" due to it being all over the place with multiple suggestions, then delisting and leaving open as a brainstorming session is perfectly fine.  Though, sometimes you should close brainstorming sessions. It's part of closer discretion. When I close what seems to me a brainstorming session, I try to give a longer close, summarising the discussion, etc. Anyway, all that aside, thank you very much for your help closing here, it's much appreciated (even if you never hear the appreciation : ) - jc37 15:29, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:2012 Delhi gang rape
The RFC has been open a month, and the discussion has essentially wound down/ become repetitive. Could an uninvolved editor review and close? Abecedare (talk) 18:02, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I have a little free time, since its been open a month, Ill take a look. AlbinoFerret  18:37, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  19:29, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Luhansk People's Republic
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Luhansk People's Republic ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  02:43, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Landmark Worldwide
Will an administrator assess the consensus at this RFC? It definitely needs an administrator, as the article is protected. Thank you. Nwlaw63 (talk) 13:44, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

done - jc37 21:49, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters
Could an uninvolved editor please close this RfC. Cinderella157 (talk) 04:11, 5 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Request Speedy Close
 * There have been a couple similar proposals and an RfC on galaxy/Galaxy that just closed hours ago. No consensus to change MoS. Now another RfC on the same thing has just opened by user Cinderella157. We haven't even had time to regroup to decide on our next steps when this appears. It was deleted instantly by an editor (not me) but was soon added right back. Please close this speedily. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:36, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

not done Previous close apparently suggested followup discussion/RfCs. And hasn't been 30 days and discussion is still ongoing. - jc37 20:28, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

CfD
There are currently many open discussions, including some going all the way back to December. Please see the list at Categories_for_discussion. - jc37 17:44, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 11
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 11 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * This has been outstanding for quite some time now and needs to be closed one way or another. I think the conversation goes much broader then (and away from) my proposition. I think it is probably a good basis to start a wider request for comment to see if we can establish in policy a requirement to give an explicit source when putting an ancestry-type category on an article (perhaps as part of Biographies of living persons?) SFB 19:59, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

already done by User:Vegaswikian- jc37 20:06, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 24
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 24 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

already done by User:Vegaswikian- jc37 20:06, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2015 January 8
Seven discussions still open.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 05:35, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Down to five now. --BDD (talk) 19:07, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Now down to three. SD0001 (talk) 10:30, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

RfD
Not nearly as bad as it has been in recent memory, but here are some leftovers from February: Thanks, BDD (talk) 14:39, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 15
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 17
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 18
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 18
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 18
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 20
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 25
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 25
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 March 11
 *  Reply - Don't forget Redirects_for_discussion --Jax 0677 (talk) 04:18, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That one is done. Just waiting for Zero (Marvel Comics) now. - jc37 22:38, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Templates_for_discussion/Log/2015_April_1
Request for closure. --AmritasyaPutra T 11:40, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Templates for discussion/Log/2015 March 16
An admin with lots if spare time is needs to close this 150,000+ byte discussion. Its going to take a lot more than a vote count and may need some time to read through. Thanks! EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 13:10, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Requested moves

 * Requested moves backlog

Anyone have a mop? Some of the discussions there are backed up all the way from early February.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 08:12, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:List of American federal politicans convicted of crimes
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of American federal politicans convicted of crimes ? Please consider the RfC close of Talk:List of American federal politicans convicted of crimes (Initiated 19 July 2012) in your close. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  16:38, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

CfD
There are currently many open discussions, including some going all the way back to December. Please see the list at Categories_for_discussion. - jc37 17:44, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 11
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 11 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * This has been outstanding for quite some time now and needs to be closed one way or another. I think the conversation goes much broader then (and away from) my proposition. I think it is probably a good basis to start a wider request for comment to see if we can establish in policy a requirement to give an explicit source when putting an ancestry-type category on an article (perhaps as part of Biographies of living persons?) SFB 19:59, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

already done by User:Vegaswikian- jc37 20:06, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 24
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 24 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

already done by User:Vegaswikian- jc37 20:06, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2015 January 8
Seven discussions still open.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 05:35, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Down to five now. --BDD (talk) 19:07, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Now down to three. SD0001 (talk) 10:30, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Templates_for_discussion/Log/2015_April_1
Request for closure. --AmritasyaPutra T 11:40, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Templates for discussion/Log/2015 March 16
An admin with lots if spare time is needs to close this 150,000+ byte discussion. Its going to take a lot more than a vote count and may need some time to read through. Thanks! EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 13:10, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

done - jc37 21:17, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:List of American federal politicans convicted of crimes
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of American federal politicans convicted of crimes ? Please consider the RfC close of Talk:List of American federal politicans convicted of crimes (Initiated 19 July 2012) in your close. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  16:38, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Aja (pornographic actress)
Needs assessment by uninvolved admin.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 03:42, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * PROCEDURAL CLOSE - Discussion has been moved here. (non-admin closure)  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 08:36, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done - request for close apparently withdrawn. - jc37 20:15, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 11
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 11 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * This has been outstanding for quite some time now and needs to be closed one way or another. I think the conversation goes much broader then (and away from) my proposition. I think it is probably a good basis to start a wider request for comment to see if we can establish in policy a requirement to give an explicit source when putting an ancestry-type category on an article (perhaps as part of Biographies of living persons?) SFB 19:59, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

already done by User:Vegaswikian- jc37 20:06, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 24
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 24 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

already done by User:Vegaswikian- jc37 20:06, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

RfD backlog
Not nearly as bad as it has been in recent memory, but here are some leftovers from February: Thanks, BDD (talk) 14:39, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 15
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 17
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 18
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 18/
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 18
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 20
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 25
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 25
 * Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 March 11
 *  Reply - Don't forget Redirects_for_discussion --Jax 0677 (talk) 04:18, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That one is done. Just waiting for Zero (Marvel Comics) now. - jc37 22:38, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

already done - jc37 00:45, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Templates for discussion/Log/2015 March 16
An admin with lots if spare time is needs to close this 150,000+ byte discussion. Its going to take a lot more than a vote count and may need some time to read through. Thanks! EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 13:10, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

done - jc37 21:17, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Requested moves

 * Requested moves backlog

Anyone have a mop? Some of the discussions there are backed up all the way from early February.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 08:12, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:List of American federal politicans convicted of crimes
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of American federal politicans convicted of crimes ? Please consider the RfC close of Talk:List of American federal politicans convicted of crimes (Initiated 19 July 2012) in your close. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  16:38, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Version 2.0
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Version 2.0 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  22:18, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:IHeartRadio Music Festival
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:IHeartRadio Music Festival ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  22:02, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Aja (pornographic actress)
Needs assessment by uninvolved admin.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 03:42, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * PROCEDURAL CLOSE - Discussion has been moved here. (non-admin closure)  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 08:36, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done - request for close apparently withdrawn. - jc37 20:15, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, it was closed. This was reverted.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 22:45, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:List of Turkic dynasties and countries
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of Turkic dynasties and countries ? See the subsection Talk:List of Turkic dynasties and countries. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  16:46, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Gun show loophole/Archive 3
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Gun show loophole/Archive 3 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  13:45, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:2002 Venezuelan coup d'état attempt
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:2002 Venezuelan coup d'état attempt ? The opening poster wrote: "Should the 'Media Role' content be moved to the 'Aftermath' section?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  00:57, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Precipitationshed
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Precipitationshed ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC) Done 21:41, 8 April 2015 (UTC) Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:29, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Medical disclaimer
Possibly the most one-sided RFC ever. Not only does it have no chance of having any effect at all, for legal reasons, it also currently has zero supporters for a change in policy, with even its proposer !voting "Neutral", against an overwhelming consensus for keeping things as they are. Requesting speedy close. -- The Anome (talk) 21:58, 29 March 2015 (UTC) ====Talk:Lift_(force)#RFC - Should we keep the current quantitative statement on momentum transfer in the second section or replace it with a qualitative version?==== Request that an experienced editor assess the consensus at this RFC and close the discussion. ? Thanks, Mr. Swordfish (talk) 18:59, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 22:56, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  03:54, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Joseph Kobzon
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Joseph Kobzon ? The opening poster wrote: "Should the Joseph Kobzon page mention his entry bans and removal of honorary citizenship, and his comments/activities leading up to that?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  02:35, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Sam Harris (author)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Sam Harris (author) ? The opening poster wrote: "Should the following be in this biography: Theodore Sayeed also sees a dichotomy in Harris' treatment of the world's religions: 'For a man who likes to badger Muslims about their “reflexive solidarity” with Arab suffering, Harris seems keen to display his own tribal affections for the Jewish state.' http://mondoweiss.net/2012/06/sam-harris-uncovered" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  03:22, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Sam Harris (author)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Sam Harris (author) ? The opening poster wrote: "Was this edit  to this BLP proper?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  18:19, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Elguja Medzmariashvili
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Elguja Medzmariashvili ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  18:23, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Bill Cosby
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Bill Cosby ? The opening poster wrote: "Is Bill_Cosby currently of undue weight?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  18:36, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 April 2
Could someone assess consensus and close this one? Thanks. --BDD (talk) 20:43, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done by User:EurekaLott. Natg 19 (talk) 21:50, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Requested moves

 * Requested moves backlog

Anyone have a mop? Some of the discussions there are backed up all the way from early February.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 08:12, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Heather Bresch
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Heather Bresch ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  21:54, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Category talk:People convicted of murder
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Category talk:People convicted of murder ? The opening poster wrote: "Should persons who were legally deemed or pardoned as being "wrongfully convicted of murder" be in the category "persons convicted of murder"?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  22:01, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:American Left
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:American Left ? The opening poster wrote: "Is Bernie Sanders, U.S. Senator from Vermont, previously U.S. Representative from Vermont, previously mayor of Burlington, Vermont, a notable enough person (as an American socialist politician) to be mentioned in the article American Left in a section entitled 'Left candidates running as independents'?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  22:16, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:American Left
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:American Left ? The opening poster wrote: Is
 * The American Left consists of individuals and groups that have sought egalitarian changes in the economic, political, and cultural institutions of the United States

a correct and proper definition for the article American Left? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  22:37, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Kenji Miyazawa
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Kenji Miyazawa ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  13:15, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Acharya S
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Acharya S ? The opening poster wrote: "Should the result of previous RFC Talk:Acharya_S/Archive_12 be restored? See above comment User:Rjd0060 'As for which version was protected, I'm sure I protected The Wrong Version. My apologies, but per PPOL and administrative procedures, we typically must stay completely neutral in the case and protect the article in the current state, rather than a preferred state'." Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  13:23, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Acharya S
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Acharya S ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  13:32, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  13:36, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Neo-feudalism
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Neo-feudalism ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  13:39, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:United States
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:United States ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  13:48, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/CollXtion I (2nd nomination)
The previous AfD was closed as "speedy keep" less than 24 hours ago, and it's the same nominator with the same "delete" rationale. I didn't close it myself because I !voted in the previous AfD.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 22:38, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done discussion was closed by Spartaz on April 16. Kraxler (talk) 14:59, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Template talk:Largest cities of Israel
This RfC was open for 6 weeks, and saw no activitiy in the last 3 weeks (except a long discussion between me and which in my opinion has no direct bearing on the  question in the RfC). Can someone neutral please assess whether a consensus was reached and if so - what it is. Thanks, &#8220;WarKosign&#8221; 20:57, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Can I please ask any admin involve to note that the RfC started in he context that the content started with an in template title "largest urban areas of Israel. "Urban areas" reverted to "cities" and "of" was changed to "in"?  The topic of this RfC also relates to the topic of a parallel RfC located at Talk:List of cities in Israel and I think that it would make sense for both RfCs to be handled together.  I also think that it would be of great help if a truly neutral editor who has sufficient interest in the topic area take this on as, IMO, it is a fairly involved topic.  GregKaye 21:46, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done Kraxler (talk) 17:37, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done also the parallel RfC Kraxler (talk) 18:08, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Project for the New American Century
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Project for the New American Century ? The opening poster wrote:  removes a second quote from a source still being used for the statement: British MP Michael Meacher, made similar allegations in 2003, stating that Rebuilding America's Defences was "a blueprint for the creation of a global Pax Americana," which had been "drawn up for" key members of the Bush administration

The material removed further cites Meacher specifically for
 * it is clear the US authorities did little or nothing to pre-empt the events of 9/11. It is known that at least 11 countries provided advance warning to the US of the 9/11 attacks. Two senior Mossad experts were sent to Washington in August 2001 to alert the CIA and FBI to a cell of 200 terrorists said to be preparing a big operation (Daily Telegraph, September 16 2001). The list they provided included the names of four of the 9/11 hijackers, none of whom was arrested.

Was the second quote properly removed as UNDUE or should it remain per NPOV? 21:57, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Per WP:RFC I am offering an alternative statement here since I do not believe the above is an accurate reflection of the question being debated. Alternative statement would be:

Is the lengthy quote necessary, or was it rightly removed as part of a broader effort to reduce the number of block quotes in the article? Is it necessary for Meacher's views on September 11 to be quoted at length in this section, or should his views be summarized/paraphrased (with appropriate citations) instead? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 07:48, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Afro
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Afro ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  14:10, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Carmel, Har Hebron
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Carmel, Har Hebron ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  14:21, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Winged unicorn
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Winged unicorn ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  14:30, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Morisco
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Morisco ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  20:03, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:2015 University of Oklahoma Sigma Alpha Epsilon racism incident
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:2015 University of Oklahoma Sigma Alpha Epsilon racism incident ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  20:14, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Discrimination
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Discrimination ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  20:21, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:List of cities in Israel
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of cities in Israel ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done as mentioned above Kraxler (talk) 18:10, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Bitcoin/Archive 25
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Bitcoin/Archive 25 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done Sunrise</b> (talk) 09:21, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Ken Ham/Archive 3
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Ken Ham/Archive 3 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Done Guy (Help!) 08:52, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Safety of electronic cigarettes
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Safety of electronic cigarettes ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. That should keep my New Messages bar alight for a few more months. Guy (Help!) 08:51, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Lloviu virus
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Lloviu virus ? The opening poster wrote: "Should this article be redirected to Cuevavirus?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 08:46, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Taylor Swift
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Taylor Swift ? The discussion is split between images 1 and 2, so a close by an uninvolved editor would be helpful. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done discussion was closed on April 9 by Winkelvi. Kraxler (talk) 15:12, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Notability
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Wikipedia talk:Notability ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done. Guy (Help!) 07:38, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Template talk:Nihongo
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Template talk:Nihongo ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 10:56, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Christian terrorism
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Christian terrorism ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 07:28, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Fire engine
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Fire engine ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Done in as much as anything could be done. Guy (Help!) 07:25, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Fire engine
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Fire engine ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done in as much as anything could be done. Guy (Help!) 07:24, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Germanwings Flight 9525
Lengthy merge discussion (about 69 bulleted responses, not including threaded discussion) that needs closure. The article that is proposed to be merged was nominated for deletion yesterday. Because of the length of the merge discussion, I am requesting the merge discussion be closed. I have commented in the deletion discussion that I am proposing the merge discussion be closed given how long it is and requesting that the AfD be closed on procedural grounds...the subject is clearly connected to the article, so only a merge should be discussed (not deletion) and the merge discussion is ongoing. AHeneen (talk) 16:44, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 07:18, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

WP:ANI
Would an administrator please deal with this thread? Much obliged. RGloucester — ☎ 20:02, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done discussion was closed by Bbb23 on April 16 Kraxler (talk) 16:47, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Bob Simon
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Bob Simon ? See the subsection Talk:Bob Simon. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC) done Spartaz Humbug! 17:08, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Shooting of Michael Brown
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Shooting of Michael Brown ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  01:11, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Littleton, Colorado
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Littleton, Colorado ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  04:26, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Einstein Cross
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Einstein Cross ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done Kraxler (talk) 16:11, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Glengarry Glen Ross (film)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Glengarry Glen Ross (film) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  05:12, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Remember (The Walking Dead)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Remember (The Walking Dead) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  13:15, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:2015 Copenhagen shootings
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:2015 Copenhagen shootings ? See the subsection Talk:2015 Copenhagen shootings. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Note, I had closed this RFC, but one of the commentators requested to undo it to allow a conversation to conclude. AlbinoFerret 17:52, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
 * In that case, I'm marking it as if it's done as this does not need to be listed here anymore and should be archived. Ncmvocalist (talk) 18:41, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Philadelphia Fire Department
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Philadelphia Fire Department ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  19:19, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Words to watch
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Words to watch ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done Drmies (talk) 17:45, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Army Ranger Wing
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Army Ranger Wing ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  19:42, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Dorje Shugden controversy
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Dorje Shugden controversy ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done Drmies (talk) 17:38, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Hinduism/Archive 30
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Hinduism/Archive 30 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Not needed; already done by Drmies on 10 March 2015. Ncmvocalist (talk) 18:27, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:New Kadampa Tradition
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:New Kadampa Tradition ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * not done as it was inappropriate for this to have been brought here on 13 April after the RfC was withdrawn by the initiator on 5 April. Ncmvocalist (talk) 18:36, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Gender variance
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Gender variance ? See the subsection Talk:Gender variance. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

not done RFC tag removed when the involved editors came to an agreement. I did box it to archive it. AlbinoFerret 21:35, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done Drmies (talk) 17:35, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Linking
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Linking ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

done AlbinoFerret  23:01, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Greek–Turkish relations
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Greek–Turkish relations ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Closed it. SamuelDay1 (talk) 02:43, 15 April 2015 (UTC) done

Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents
The consensus is overwhelmingly (unanimously) in favor of the suggested limited IBAN between and. The subjects themselves have expressed approval, but seem to waver and continue their unfriendly interaction during the discussion. In any case, it seems not a single unintersted party who's read the case opposes the suggestion, and I am basically requesting a snow close by an uninvolved admin to effect the limited IBAN. (This case has come at least one way or another to ANI or ArbCom 21 (!) times.) BTW, I've templated the page, but that doesn't seem to accomplish anything. Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 20:57, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * At this point, in addition to the ten or so supports, zero opposes, AND the two disputants, this is settled. The sooner an admin effects the IBAN the better for everyone. μηδείς (talk) 01:15, 18 April 2015 (UTC)


 * done -- Jayron <b style="color:#090">32</b> 01:17, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Templates for discussion/Log/2015 April 1
Request for closure. --<span style="font-family: Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif;color: #FF9933">AmritasyaPutra T 11:40, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done by Alakzi. Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Log/2015 April 2
Seven discussions need to be closed. Every one of these discussions has been going on for three weeks or more. Paperpencils (talk) 18:45, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
 * All complete, I think. Guy (Help!) 11:07, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Supersessionism
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Supersessionism ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * RfC was withdrawn. <b style="color:#F60;font-family:Times New Roman">Sunrise</b> (talk) 09:10, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:William Street (Manhattan)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:William Street (Manhattan) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Editors seem to have established consensus independently. <b style="color:#F60;font-family:Times New Roman">Sunrise</b> (talk) 09:29, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done to record the consensus. Cunard (talk) 23:30, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Ludwig_van_Beethoven
A discussion about the use of infoboxes in articles about classical composers. Open since December 24, it isn't a formal RfC but the consensus is not clear, so I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this. Winner 42 Talk to me!  13:24, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The discussion has started again, and more !votes were added. This should be removed from this list, not being stale. Kraxler (talk) 12:03, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Max Verstappen
Could an uninvolved administrator assess the consensus in the following four closely related discussions on the above page:

Nationality of drivers

Nationality: official rules according the FIA International Sporting Code

For real

De morgen

Thanks in advance, Tvx1 21:38, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Users on that page have agreed to a compromise, and edited the wording accordingly in early April. No RfC was opened, just talk page debate, no need to close anything. No need to take further action. Kraxler (talk) 15:57, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Categories for discussion/Log/2015 January 8
Seven discussions still open.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 05:35, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Down to five now. --BDD (talk) 19:07, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Now down to three. SD0001 (talk) 10:30, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Down to one. -- QEDK ♠  T  ♥  C  14:48, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Still one which is outstanding: Categories for discussion/Log/2015 January 8. Ncmvocalist (talk) 09:06, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done All have been closed now.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 02:09, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Walter O'Brien
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Walter O'Brien ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  16:10, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Already done |done=yes was added, and it was closed on April 15th. Adding this so its obvious it should be archived. AlbinoFerret  13:36, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Jihadi_John
This has been running for more than a month. It could use a close. Please also take into account Talk:Jihadi_John, it is about the exact same thing and was opened about a week prior.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 11:32, 18 April 2015 (UTC) Done

Talk:Brisbane Roar FC
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Brisbane Roar FC ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Kraxler (talk) 19:19, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Gun show loophole
Would an uninvolved admin close this, please? Discussion died April 7. Thanks. Lightbreather (talk) 23:10, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. Guy (Help!) 09:50, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

====Talk:Billy Mackenzie==== Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Billy Mackenzie ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. The question makes the answer obvious... Guy (Help!) 09:37, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Tyson Fury
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Tyson Fury ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Guy (Help!) 09:33, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Lausanne Committee for World Evangelization
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Lausanne Committee for World Evangelization ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Guy (Help!) 12:03, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:António de Oliveira Salazar/Archive 1
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:António de Oliveira Salazar/Archive 1 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ❌, not an RfC as such, a normal editorial discussion. No closure required. Guy (Help!) 12:23, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Christina, Queen of Sweden
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Christina, Queen of Sweden ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Guy (Help!) 11:58, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant/Archive 33
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant/Archive 33 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. Guy (Help!) 12:02, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian politics
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian politics ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * ✅ AlbinoFerret  11:26, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Democratic Party (United States)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Democratic Party (United States) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ AlbinoFerret  11:55, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters
Would an uninvolved editor please close this RfC. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:01, 19 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  01:44, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:List_of_topics_characterized_as_pseudoscience
Would an uninvolved editor please close this RFC, opened on 14 March? It has been inactive for two weeks, and the consensus seems clear. 192.253.251.84 (talk) 20:48, 22 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  01:57, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Fremantle_Prison
Would an experienced editor please assess the consensus at this RFC? Thanks, - Evad37 &#91;talk] 00:43, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  02:21, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Israel
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Israel ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done discussion was closed by Guy on April 20. Kraxler (talk) 22:47, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters ? Please consider Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters/Archive 16, closed 4 March 2015, in your close. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

This appears to be the discussion leading up to the RFC I closed yesterday. AlbinoFerret 23:06, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * done Yes, this was a discussion about whether it was appropriate to start a new RfC after a previous RfC ended without consensus. I archived it, the discussion having become moot after the opening, and closure, of the subsequent RfC. Kraxler (talk) 00:23, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Kokuchūkai
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Kokuchūkai ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Already done The RFC was closed on April 17th by Drmies. AlbinoFerret  05:14, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Arab Spring
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Arab Spring ? Please consider Talk:Arab Winter (Initiated 12 October 2014) in your close. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done Closed it. SamuelDay1 (talk) 04:49, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:North Bergen, New Jersey
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:North Bergen, New Jersey ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  14:17, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:List of Robot Chicken episodes
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of Robot Chicken episodes ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Already done Closed on April 20th by Spartaz. AlbinoFerret  14:07, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Institute of Economic Affairs/Archives/2018
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Institute of Economic Affairs/Archives/2018 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Not done Archived discussion, participants worked it out and did not need a closing. AlbinoFerret  20:16, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 March 20
Can an uninvolved administrator take a look at this one? It was originally opened on Feburary 19, but was the subject of a deletion review and was overturned as relist on March 19. Natg 19 (talk) 20:39, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by User:Deryck Chan. Natg 19 (talk) 17:15, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:History of Scotland
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:History of Scotland ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * ✅ AlbinoFerret  14:44, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents
Not an RfC but i don't know where else to put this. Looking for a close on this thread. Jytdog (talk) 14:50, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
 * As the subject of this incident, I agree that it would be nice to close the thread. Since the thread became very long, I'd like to highlight that the original report pinged every user whom JYTDog felt had problems with my editing. The result ended up being a form of WP:Votestacking although I do not mean to imply that he did this intentionally. Most of the editors who participated were pinged in the original message. Most of the remaining editors who were not pinged had previously interacted with JYTDog in some capacity (both mostly positive but some negatives too).


 * I recognize original filing is not without merit. A personal content dispute resulted in a battleground and I take personal responsibility for my actions. JYTDog and Formerly98 were party to the battleground as other participants in the incident report have noted. It would be impossible for this to be the result of a single editor. JYTDog also agreed that this is a personal content dispute is at play. If this incident is closed, I will consciously modify my editing style going forward so that this does not come back to the noticeboards. If JYTDog and Formerly98 do the same, this won't be an issue any longer. Doors22 (talk) 17:10, 25 April 2015 (UTC)


 * ✔️ thread was closed by Jusdafax on April 28. Kraxler (talk) 15:30, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Close is currently reviewed at Administrators' noticeboard/Archive271. Kraxler (talk) 15:40, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Simon_Collins
Consensus has been reached among editors during the discussion. No need for the RfC to drag on. Four editors have responded to the "Survey", all four agree on the same points. Request an uninvolved editor to close per the consensus the content should be reworded, but will stay in early life section. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">WV ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">✉ ✓ 14:03, 28 April 2015 (UTC)


 * @PBS Consensus has most certainly not been reached. I am the originator of the RFC and it has been a quite controversial RFC to say the least. Please see here:

   The user @winkelvi has gone as far as reverting a message to from administrator @PBS on my talk page. I reported this to admin PBS and he warned user winkelvi in the diffs above. No consensus has been reached, and to date only like 3-5 editors have even comment or voted. I would ask that the RFC be let to run a normal course of time to ensure the maximun number of editors may comment or vote so that we may reach a true consensus, Thank-you. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Cheers! WordSeventeen (talk) 15:25, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Consensus has been reached, all four editors who have responded to the "Survey" agree unanimously. It defies logic to keep the RfC going and the content from being fixed according to the consensus. There's been no controversy, just typical back and forth via discussion. The "reverting a message to from administrator @PBS" on W17s talk page was merely a mistake/finger tap error on my tablet. I immediately reverted after realizing my error. Not sure why W17 thinks that moment is relevant to this RFC request. I would like to mention, however, that W17 has been warned previously about WP:HOUNDING me by both and. It seems to me that the only way he would have ended up here is through continued hounding activity and stalking my edits. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">WV ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">✉ ✓ 15:52, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Many of the statements and baseless allegations made above in the posting by user winkelvi are incorrect. I note that winkelvi continues to rant on and on and on without any diffs, or actual proof of what h/she wants people to think. The picture s/he is attempting to draw is misleading  and a misrepresentation of the truth. Also winkelvi is currently forum shopping and admin shopping evidenced by first going to @Drmies, and then @PBS, and the current admin shoppee looks to be @Cool Hand Luke. see here:  Winkelvi has been warned by admin @PBS as shown in the diffs above in my earlier posting. This diff that spells it out the best in the Warning made to winkelvi on their talk page by PBS.   I am personally sickened by the constant battleground behaviours WP:BATTLEGROUND by user winkelvi that I have outlined above. winkelvi is just continuing to try and stir up drama and trouble, and his doing so is continuing to cause disruption to the encyclopedia. I have reported the numerous disruptions by winkelvi on the talk page of admin PBS that can be read in multiple postings by me on the PBS talk page.  see here: sections 71, 78, and 79. I am washing my hands of this entire matter and will have no further comments about the disruptions caused by user winkelvi other than to say he is not showing WP:AGF. He is guilty of WP:HOUNDING me, and has caused repeated disruptions here at wikipedia, and is not here to build an encyclopedia, but is here instead to cause disruption and drama, as is evidenced by a block log which shows multiple blocks, and by his numerous disputes with a series of different editors. winkelvi needs to be told and shown by someone he will actually listen to that Wikipedia is not therapy. WP:THERAPY I am going to just continue with my goal of improving the encyclopedia, improving articles, and working in collaboration with editors here to do the same.   Thank you.     Cheers!     WordSeventeen (talk) 12:31, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


 * ✅ RfC is now closed: consensus is obvious. At some point, I hope that point will come soon, I'll try to look into these allegations but, WordSeventeen, let me just say that your final mission statement is belied somewhat by your comments on this RfC, whose conclusion is quite clear. Drmies (talk) 15:01, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:G. Edward Griffin, Talk:G. Edward Griffin
Open since 22 March, well into WP:DEADHORSE territory. Guy (Help!) 21:17, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I would second this. Consensus is clear. SamuelDay1 (talk) 04:51, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by Callanec on 27 April 2015.

Templates_for_discussion/Log/2015_April_11
Seemingly it is about to be deleted, but any experienced admin may have a look. Hajme 16:51, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by Plastikspork on 27 April 2015.

Village_pump_(policy)
Though not a formal RfC, I'm requesting a formal closure here due the potentially controversial nature of the question. NickCT (talk) 18:49, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * done as closed by on 22 April 2015. <b style="font-family:Candara;color:green">I, JethroBT</b> drop me a line 19:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Help talk:Referencing for beginners
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Help talk:Referencing for beginners ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Already closed. Spartaz Humbug! 13:17, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Mattress Performance (Carry That Weight)
Admins, I needed to stir controversy to prove a point I KNEW was right before I did what I did, and I got stonewalled. Take a look up and see. These people who refused to edit their work and ignored what actually were valid complaints. Please take a look before I invoke someone's wrath once again. We need permission to override this silly excuse for a consensus. Nobody else seems to be willing to give any leeway at all to anyone who isn't one of them in this article. Kind of urgent. People have been defending this left and right as consensus when it clearly is not. People may feel like I deceived them but it's only for dishonest reasons. I know I have to email oversight about other mods but can somebody let me change the title? If this was not constantly stonewalling I don't know what is. NPOV Ninja (talk) 16:15, 3 May 2015 (UTC). Start at the bottom and work to the top like all of them before you judge my actions. Please let me change it to Emma Sulkowicz rape accusations as per Tawana Brawley rape allegations. Check the log. They're scared and getting sloppy. They finally justified why they feel the way they do and her feelings are not an encyclopedic reason. I hope this guides actions similar to theirs in the future. NPOV Ninja (talk) 16:15, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


 * . The user who filed this request has since been blocked for disruption, several admins are watching the page, but there is no need at this time for a formal close to anything. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:53, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Files for deletion/2015 March 7
One file in here that everyone seems to have forgotten about, and is over a month old. Closure would be appreciated by any admin who knows naything about images and NFCC. EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 00:07, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:07, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:2 May 2014 Odessa clashes
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:2 May 2014 Odessa clashes ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by Spartaz. Number   5  7  11:47, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Multi-sport events
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Multi-sport events ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅Closed Spartaz Humbug! 13:27, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Village pump (proposals)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Village pump (proposals) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thread was archived to Village pump (proposals)/Archive 121 without having been closed. Closure still necessary. Kraxler (talk) 23:00, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Closed, Spartaz Humbug! 13:24, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Harassment
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Harassment ? See the subsection Wikipedia talk:Harassment. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I second this request, discussion has now completely ceased. Thryduulf (talk) 08:05, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Spartaz Humbug! 13:17, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Roy Moore
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Roy Moore ? The opening poster wrote: "There's a section called Judge Roy Moore is Coming to Dinner about a play which is a parody of Judge Roy Moore. If it is notable it should probably have it's own page as the play does not feature him at all. However, there's limited WP:SOURCES on this and the play's creator. Seems like WP:FRINGE ..." Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC) ✅ by Drmies. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 04:29, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. They should have pinged me earlier! Drmies (talk) 18:53, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Piracy_in_Somalia
Would someone be able to close this requested move discussion, which has been inactive for two weeks? Cordless Larry (talk) 10:01, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Closed. bd2412  T 17:34, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Indiana SB 101
Consensus seems pretty clear here a month after filing, and almost that long since the last comment. --BDD (talk) 19:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Closed. bd2412  T 17:30, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Doctor (Doctor Who)
Slightly contentious, as the move goes directly against naming guidelines WP:DEFINITE and WP:THE and would create a major inconsistency (just look at Doctor and other characters with a noun as name). Consensus seems to lean towards support, but supporters have weak argumentation at best. 17:08, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Closed. bd2412  T 17:25, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Really? This is soo going to review...  20:18, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Breda O'Brien
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Breda O'Brien ? The opening poster wrote: Should the lead include the sentence from the body of the article:
 * ... and to same-sex marriage, but does not now oppose civil partnership.[6][7]

Or should the lead remain simply:
 * O'Brien opposes same-sex marriage. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

✅ Kraxler (talk) 02:21, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Prometheus (2012 film)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Prometheus (2012 film) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Guy (Help!) 12:58, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Film
Would somebody preferably with an understanding of the distinction between secondary and primary sources please assess and close this discussion. The discussion has drawn to a conclusion, but there is an outstanding issue as to whether a film review would count as a primary source or secondary source in regards to the critical opinion contained within (see Erik's comments under "proposal 1"). Betty Logan (talk) 19:15, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Guy (Help!) 14:29, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Nazi gun control theory
Requesting closure on Talk:Nazi gun control theory. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 04:20, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

✅ by Guy. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 00:57, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2015_May_1
Please disposition Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2015_May_1, which was relisted over one week ago, and was started in March 2015. --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:34, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Looks like this was closed by on 9 May 2015. Cheers,  TLSuda  (talk) 19:15, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yay! My pleasure. Deryck C. 14:11, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters
An admin is requested to close this RfC about whether there should be certain exceptions for the MOS's general prohibition of the use of smallcaps, exceptions to accommodate specific usages and WP:CITEVAR. -- Diannaa (talk) 03:10, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Seconding this request for closure. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:13, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ by Mdann52. — Godsy  (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 04:43, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Franklin D. Roosevelt
Would an uninvolved editor please close this RfC? Much thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:50, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ — Godsy  (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 08:32, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton/April 2015 move request
Pursuant to the discussion currently being held at the Village Pump, if there is determined to be a consensus that another move discussion is permissible with respect to Hillary Rodham Clinton, such a discussion will likely be initiated sometime within the next few weeks. As with the previous effort on this matter, it is requested that a three-admin panel be convened to determine the consensus of the community in this discussion. Such a panel should be composed of three administrators who are experienced in closing RMs, and who are uninvolved with article at issue, and have not previously participated in these discussions. The panel members would be expected to monitor the discussion and enforce civility and protocol, and close it at the end of the allotted discussion period. In light of the last experience, it would also be appreciated if the panel members were to make sure to be available to close the discussion and make a determination of consensus quickly. bd2412 T 04:04, 14 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm a non-admin who has closed a lot of RM discussions before, so would be happy to volunteer if needed. Mdann52 (talk) 11:55, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I have no objection to an experienced non-admin being on such a panel, if the other two members are admins. bd2412  T 12:27, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Am happy to volunteer if theres a general view that a three-closer panel is needed. I think the panel idea should be flagged at the RfC, in case this (also) is subject to objection. Not suggesting a !vote on it, just something noting this is the proposed close method. -- Euryalus (talk) 12:56, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks - that makes two. I will make a note on the discussion draft. Cheers! bd2412  T 21:02, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: The Village Pump discussion has closed with a determination that a new move discussion is permissible. This discussion will be initiated within the next few days at Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton/April 2015 move request. bd2412  T 02:08, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Update: Discussion has been launched and is now underway at Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton/April 2015 move request. Please keep an eye on it. A third uninvolved, experienced RM-closer is still needed for the panel.  bd2412  T 18:13, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to help. I haven't closed a heap of RMs (so if someone else how has is available feel free to take my spot), but I've done a number of discussions, some contentious. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:55, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Then we have our panel. So far the discussion, although hard-fought, has basically remained civil and focused. However, additional eyes are always useful. Cheers! bd2412  T 14:37, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * BD2412, as an involved editor, I think you should give a little more distance to appearing to sign off on the appointment of the closers. Of course, I am sure they will do an excellent job.  Does this discussion preclude another admin from declaring a consensus and closing?  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:53, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I certainly hope I have been neutral in this task. I was quite specifically asked (in this discussion) to request a three-admin panel, and I believe I have done so dutifully. The exact same thing happened in the last RM - I was asked to request a panel, I requested one just as I requested this one, and the panel that was assembled closed the discussion as they did. In light of that, I am not the least bit worried that I have any undue influence over anyone else (or, really, that anyone listens to me at all). bd2412  T 04:48, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I have zero problems with the manner which bd2412 has asked for a panel to close the RM. Despite the editor irritating the Hell out of me most of the time. :-p Dave Dial (talk) 04:56, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Suggestion It occured to me that it might be beneficial for the members of the closing panel not to be from the same national/regional/cultural background i.e. not all from the U.S. and not all from other countries. I would think, in reflection on List of countries by English-speaking population, that a potentially neutral mix would be to have one admin from the U.S. and two from other locations.  Its just a suggestion.  GregKaye 18:23, 1 May 2015 (UTC)]]
 * The BLP is about an important American figure - not clear to me how two non-Americans is more neutral than two Americans. Tvoz / talk 07:10, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


 * A note to potential closers – In order for this closure to be accepted, it must meet the standard set by the last closure, which was quite high in terms of thoroughness. I'd ask that the closers take a look at the research done by closer TParis. Such research is representative of the standard that must be met in the closure of this current request. RGloucester  — ☎ 03:38, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * , I don't argue that it would be good for closure to be enacted to a high standard but, when you say "In order for this closure to be accepted", accepted by who? The last RM went through the process that you mentioned and still came to a decision that was widely questioned and which went to MR.  GregKaye 18:12, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Suggestion As was requested and fulfilled the last time, it would be  a good idea to again  have the closing panel not be all male.  Tvoz / talk 07:10, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Seconded. I would even further suggest two out of the three members of the panel should be female, ideally. -- Scjessey (talk) 14:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree. Tvoz / talk 00:25, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Do we know anything about the gender of the volunteers so far? We could ask. bd2412  T 14:23, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Based on their various infoboxes (past and present), it appears as though at least two are also Australian? (I don't think there's some grand conspiracy by the Aussies, perhaps just the time that the "request for volunteers" was posted meant Australians were more likely to be editing.)  Given that it has been asserted in the discussion that "Hillary Rodham Clinton" is more prevalent in North America than elsewhere in the world, given the spirit of wp:ties, and given wp:bias, a majority-male (or, possibly, all male), majority-Australian group of closers is interesting.  Justen (talk) 00:58, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * re gender, I have compiled information that has been visibly available at Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton/April 2015 move request. I don't know if other editors have added content themselves but I think that so far it seems to me there is an even split between female and male, supporters and opposers.  GregKaye 11:06, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I have no objection to having a mixed-gender panel at all. If a female admin (or two) wishes to volunteer to participate in the closing panel, they can work out with the three (apparently male) volunteers above what the final composition of a closing panel will be. bd2412  T 18:01, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Re geographical composition, I also think it does not make sense for the majority of closers being non-American, with no criticism of Australians or the volunteers to be inferred. I agree with Justen's comment above on this, but would take it beyond it being interesting, and say it would be preferable for the makeup of the closers to be more Americans (and fewer males). Tvoz / talk 00:25, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

- Re Gender makeup of closers - Doesn't matter. All female. All male. Mixed. Who cares? We just need people who can read an apply policy. Re Nationality of closers - Doesn't matter. All American. All international. Mixed. Who cares? We just need people who can read an apply policy. Can we quit quibbling here and just move on? NickCT (talk) 12:58, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I strongly reject the idea that sex discriminatory criteria should be involved in establishing the panel. Such criteria in establishing is as wrong as using race as a criteria. As for nationality, I don't understand why being an American should be a criteria. We should be looking for three competent Wikipedia editors, even if they end up being three Siberian hermaphrodites. SMP0328. (talk) 03:25, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * It matters. It matters because it was actually asserted in the discussion that most newspapers outside of North America refer to her as "Hillary Clinton," while most in North America refer to her as "Hillary Rodham Clinton" on first reference.  It matters since our policy and style certainly lean towards respecting the norms local to a given subject in English-speaking countries.  And it matters because, although I'm male, I wouldn't presume that a group of male editors similar to myself would be able to bring the same diversity of perspective as a group of female editors could bring — especially when it comes to a wp:blp subject choosing to maintain her maiden name as a core part of her identity and a contingent of the Wikipedia editorial community saying her decision doesn't really matter.  And, certainly, we should strive for more ethnic and gender diversity in all of our editing community.  But pretending it doesn't matter ignores the reality of systemic bias.  Justen (talk) 03:47, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Whether it matters or not, the point seems to be moot. A request was made for a neutral panel, and three editors volunteered. The question of gender/geographic diversity was not raised until the discussion was in the backlog; it was noted at that time that female admins would be welcome to volunteer to serve on the panel (which would displace one or more of the presumably male panel members). However, no one else has stepped forward, and the panel is now in the process of deliberating the close. bd2412  T 04:03, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

WP:VP/P
There haven't been any new comments on this RfC for ages. It needs a close. RGloucester — ☎ 03:40, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Closed.  Go  Phightins  !  02:19, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
I'm requesting that an administrator review and close this. A previous iteration was closed by a non-admin. I won't say anything else since I am an involved party. (Warning: It's a lengthy discussion.)<b style="font-family:georgia; font-size:11pt; color:#BFA3A3"> Pax</b> 20:09, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Thread is now in ANI Archive 884. -- QEDK ♠  T  ♥  C  17:20, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * ❌ No formal closure required. The thread was archived, due to inactivity. The original poster was blocked. The article where the disagreement happened was deleted after an AfD discussion. Move on, folks. Kraxler (talk) 17:27, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

WP:BLPN
There haven't been any new comments for a while. Consensus seems unclear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.113.99.168 (talk) 09:38, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * ✔️ Closed by Guy on May 15. Kraxler (talk) 00:28, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Korean American
Requesting closure on Talk:Korean_American. .  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 18:27, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Mdann52 (talk) 16:39, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

User talk:Valoem/Involuntary celibacy
Would an admin assess the consensus at the RfC at User talk:Valoem/Involuntary celibacy ? Please note that the discussion is also transcluded to Articles for deletion/Log/2015 March 31. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:46, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Just a sidenote, I believe BusterD assessed the situation that Coffee had opened this as a RfC acting in the capacity of an AfD, so there question becomes whether there was ever consensus to delete the subject. If the outcome does favor me, I still have a few more updates regarding title changes to fix. I feel at worst the contents of the article should allow another round of AfD at worst. Valoem   talk   contrib  02:32, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * No, this deletion was endorsed at DRV and you opened this ridiculous RFC to try get round this. Any admin closing this as nc defaults to retain the material will be at DRV so fast their head will spin. Spartaz Humbug! 13:09, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Technically, this article has never been deleted by prod, AfD or CSD. The 1st Afd was a clear keep, 2nd AfD closed as merge, but editors at the merge target wouldn't allow inclusion. Such a DRV, not being AfD round 2, cannot endorse a deletion never so closed. Instead previous closer User:Coffee by own admission first listed this at RFC but also later transcluded at AFD (and even relisted twice, though I can't find it in the logs for those dates), not DRV. I would concur with other editors in this thread that closure is past due. Like User:Aquillion below, I'd prefer the closer thoroughly read the discussion on the page, and not read out-of-context arguments from this thread. BusterD (talk) 06:01, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Incorrect there was plenty of support from administrators in this matter to view the RfC in this capacity, what you have done is essentially attempt enforce a close your favor. We should not operate like this. By the way there is a strong policy based consensus why this should be retained. Valoem   talk   contrib  01:51, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Obviously, I've commented there (and I won't rehash all the reasons I think you're wrong about there being reasons to retain it), but as far as the appropriate forum to discuss it goes, I'll say basically the same thing: Administrators can't arbitrarily choose to go around AFD and DRV, at least not without giving a decent reason; and nobody involved in this has even given a particularly good rationale why it shouldn't just go to DRV (beyond your own desire to have a failure to reach consensus default to "restore", which is not a very good reason.)  Obviously an article that was removed under a legitimate AFD  (and then a went through a legitimate DRV that decided against restoration) cannot be restored based solely on a failure to reach consensus in a RFC on your talk page; if you want to argue that the AFD was not legitimate, you are perfectly aware that the appropriate place to take that is DRV (as I recall, you did take it there, once before, and it failed decisively.) More generally, it is just common sense that a RfC that fails to reach consensus has no effect, which means the article remains deleted per the previous AFD and DRV results; again, if you want to appeal those, you know the appropriate venue (and regardless of venue, you would at least have to reach a clear consensus to restore!)  --Aquillion (talk) 04:31, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Closers typically have some discretion as it regards their own closes. In this case, the closer chose to go along with Valoem and list at RFC and then transclude at AFD. If Coffee had wanted this at DRV, as closer that editor certainly could have taken it there. Coffee didn't. BusterD (talk) 06:43, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Administrative close only, Mdann52 close was completely improper given the long history of this article. He also failed to determine that WP:MEDRS is improper rational for no to restoration it was already debated this cannot be applied as this is a social condition not medical one. Valoem   talk   contrib  14:57, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

I closed as no one else was likely to close. As for the MEDRS point, it was only mentioned as other editors said it is a good idea - I have already addressed this on my talk page. If you have an issue about the close, I'm sure you are aware where to appeal it, although this will likely rumble on forever if you do. Mdann52 (talk) 15:00, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I would rather appeal an admin closure in contentious debates. Valoem   talk   contrib  15:02, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Wanting an admin to close this is, to be perfectly fair, not a legitimate reason to overturn a discussion, per Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Archive 12. I understand your point, however this has been sat here for over 2 weeks waiting for an admin close, so I decided to close it as a courtesy to prevent this dragging on for far too long. Mdann52 (talk) 15:11, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I've already made a request, you are suppose to revert NAC RfCs if requested, just so you know. Valoem   talk   contrib  15:19, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you point me to that policy please? Most of the rules at WP:NAC cover non-admin closes only. As far as I know, this is not policy, and has certainly not been upheld before. Mdann52 (talk) 15:40, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * It says NACs are done when the outcome is fairly obvious, does it look like it applies in this situation? Valoem   talk   contrib  15:56, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The issue here is that there is a gap between policy as written and as applied. From my work here, I understand that non-admin closures can be done in cases like this, when no admin tools are needed, rational is clearly explained etc. I'll propose shortly that the wording is clarified. Mdann52 (talk) 16:00, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

✅ Mdann52 (talk) 16:38, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:2014_kidnapping_and_murder_of_Israeli_teenagers
RfC has run the full 30 days (actually 40). Can someone close this? I think the consensus is relatively clear, but I would like an uninvolved editor to have a close the RfC in this contentious area. Any reasonably experienced uninvolved editor will do. Kingsindian &#9821;&#9818; 16:30, 13 May 2015 (UTC)


 * ✅ AlbinoFerret  02:58, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:2015_Baltimore_riots

 * Overwhelming support to move. Closing admin will have to judge which target to choose; three possible names (2015 Baltimore unrest, 2015 Baltimore civil unrest, and 2015 Baltimore protests) have all been put forth.  Leave it to closing admin to decide which.  It's been 10 days, and the crowd is getting a bit restless for action.  -- Jayron <b style="color:#090">32</b> 01:43, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * by Mdann52 (talk) 16:41, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
An admin will be needed soonish to close the above. It's about the close of an AN/I topic-ban discussion related to biomedical articles. Several editors disagreed with the closer's interpretation of consensus, so whoever closes this should ideally have no involvement with biomedical issues, alternative medicine or animal health. Many thanks, Sarah (SV) (talk) 19:02, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Seems ✔️ by admin &#8213;  Padenton &#124;&#9993;  21:06, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Conflict_of_interest
The caller of the RFC (which they say is part 1 of a 2-part RFC) states they have no position on [the] issue. SlimVirgin, Coretheapple and I say the RfC is disruptive. (Location says it's not neutrally worded too.) I'm here to urge an early close on that basis. The RfC conflates CoI, FCoI and PAE. --Elvey(t•c) 01:56, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Closed. Kraxler (talk) 13:10, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television
This RfC was opened by an inexperienced editor who was seeking advice on how best to link to episode articles. The question refers to a specific article and the outcome cannot affect MOS:TV so the RfC is moot. In any case, the editor has now received advice and seems happy to close the RfC. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 06:06, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * AussieLegend, could you say what is the current usage recommended by MOS:TV on this point? It would help to formulate a closing statement, although it was not mentioned by anybody in the RfC. Kraxler (talk) 12:51, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The MOS doesn't specify as it's not something that is going to be consistent. Like most of what we add to Wikipedia the solution depends on individual circumstances and is left to editorial judgement. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 12:54, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Closed. Kraxler (talk) 13:22, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Advocacy_ducks
This has been open 7 days, it was opened 14 May 2015, and looks like a possible WP:SNOW. Real discussion has stopped a few days ago and a few !votes have trickled in since then, but its pretty clear the direction this is heading. At this point we have those that are against the essay rehashing the same arguments. AlbinoFerret 14:04, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Already done by The Herald AlbinoFerret  20:46, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
This Incident Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive885 was archived without being officially closed or any action taken. Could someone review it and officially close it or take appropriate action. Thank you for your time. Itsmeront (talk) 20:26, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Steel1943 (talk) 22:47, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: I have unarchived this thread. It can now be found at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Steel1943  (talk) 22:47, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done by Atsme. Steel1943  (talk) 15:40, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Shooting_of_Walter_Scott
Can an experienced editor summarize the consensus at the above link? A simple count does not yield a clear result. Thanks! Banedon (talk) 01:34, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. --GRuban (talk) 14:31, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

==== National Rifle Association - "considerable" & National Rifle Association - NSSF ==== Both discussions were started over a month ago. I'd like to get an uninvolved closer. Note: both discussions were continued over at NPOVN, but discussion there has been inactive for over 10 days. Faceless Enemy (talk) 16:31, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. --GRuban (talk) 15:21, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Shaygan Kheradpir
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Shaygan Kheradpir ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  20:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Deaths in 2015
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Deaths in 2015 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  21:08, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Simon Collins
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Simon Collins ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done Archived discussion since support was unanimous.  AlbinoFerret  21:25, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Oldest people
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Oldest people ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  21:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Chris Claremont
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Chris Claremont ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  17:58, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Nature's Harmony Farm
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Nature's Harmony Farm ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  18:06, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Brown rice
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Brown rice ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  18:28, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Sailor Moon
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Sailor Moon ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * done --GRuban (talk) 21:48, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Faith healing/Archive 2
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Faith healing/Archive 2 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * already done Closed by &#8213;  Padenton &#124;&#9993;  19:32, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Rape statistics
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Rape statistics ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * already done Closed by &#8213;  Padenton &#124;&#9993;  19:32, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Citing sources
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Citing sources ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done &#8213; Padenton &#124;&#9993;  17:54, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Franklin D. Roosevelt
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Franklin D. Roosevelt ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done though frankly it didn't need closing, the proposal was abandoned by initiator. --GRuban (talk) 17:26, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Words to watch
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Words to watch ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done --GRuban (talk) 17:56, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

====Talk:Palestinian stone-throwing==== Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Palestinian stone-throwing ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done --GRuban (talk) 18:03, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Horse theft
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Horse theft ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done --GRuban (talk) 18:12, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Not done Part of the comments of a RFC that happened on the other article to be merged. Nothing to do, that one was already closed. AlbinoFerret 22:26, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Operation Dragoon Ride
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Operation Dragoon Ride ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  23:11, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Hapa
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Hapa ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done --GRuban (talk) 18:14, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:E-meter
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:E-meter ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done --GRuban (talk) 19:01, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Bond girl
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Bond girl ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done --GRuban (talk) 19:23, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done --GRuban (talk) 20:35, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Template talk:Afc decline
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Template talk:Afc decline ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * already done by just zis guy, you know? --GRuban (talk) 18:22, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Stephen Cambone
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Stephen Cambone ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Already done by --GRuban (talk) 13:48, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Joel Osteen
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Joel Osteen ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 13:59, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion ? See the subsection Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * done --GRuban (talk) 14:34, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 14:07, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

WP:VPR
Ready for closure, please. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:50, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Steel1943 (talk) 19:34, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * done Guy (Help!) 13:59, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Genocides in history
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Genocides in history ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  01:35, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Higgs boson
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Higgs boson ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  02:01, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Modesto, California
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Modesto, California ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  02:09, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:AC/DC
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:AC/DC ? The opening poster wrote: "Is the current drummer of AC/DC Phil Rudd or Chris Slade?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  02:17, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

WP:Village pump (proposals)
RfC has run for 30 days. Note that there are two parts to this RfC, the disclaimer and the JavaScript. Consensus about the disclaimer seems pretty clear, but people might disagree about the clarity of the consensus related to the JavaScript. <b style="color:blue;">P HANTOM </b><b style="color:green;">T ECH </b> (talk) 19:54, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Steel1943 (talk) 22:36, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done <b style="color:blue;">P HANTOM </b><b style="color:green;">T ECH </b> (talk) 14:19, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Rodney Moore (pornographic actor)
This discussion has been open for almost a month now. Could someone please close it already? The article is WP:Move protected, making WP:Non-admin closure impossible. Rebecca1990 (talk) 06:49, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * done – EdJohnston (talk) 21:21, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Bengali people
An RfC and a survey was opened following inconsistency and edit-war for place in the collage at infobox top. After long discussion a list of 30 people and a resulting collage image was made. This process started on March 31. A total of 122 nominations were made, 29 editors voted, 14 editors discussed, 2 filter systems were discussed and merged, 11 editors have agreed to ratify it, 3 editors complained, 1 editor remained apprehensive. This is time for closing this long discussion. An non-involved admin would be the right person to do it. – nafSadh did say 06:30, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Steel1943 (talk) 22:36, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * done Alsee (talk) 23:25, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:MacBook (2015 version)
Would an uninvolved editor please close this merge request? PaleAqua (talk) 20:32, 11 May 2015 (UTC) Done - closed as No consensus. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 19:55, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * (This was when the section was created, but it has since been renamed.) Steel1943  (talk) 22:36, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Advanced capitalism
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Advanced capitalism ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done – closed with a result of keep. --IJBall (talk) 06:26, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Cerne Abbas Giant
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Cerne Abbas Giant ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Already done Alsee (talk) 00:52, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Cold War II
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Cold War II ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  18:13, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Malta
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Malta ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  18:27, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Cyclone Pam
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Cyclone Pam ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  22:14, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Broke with Expensive Taste
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Broke with Expensive Taste ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Done - closed as No consensus with 4 evenly split participants. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 20:08, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Jimi Hendrix
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Jimi Hendrix ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  16:24, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Jimi Hendrix
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Jimi Hendrix ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done – closed with a result of not merged. --IJBall (talk) 06:01, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Honorific nicknames in popular music
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Honorific nicknames in popular music ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * done by Esquivalience. Guy (Help!) 20:46, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Barelvi
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Barelvi ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. <span style="color: #3BB9FF; font-style: italic; font-family: Lato, sans-serif'">Esquivalience  t 22:26, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Article titles/Archive 51
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Article titles/Archive 51 ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. --GRuban (talk) 15:03, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Easy Living (1949 film)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Easy Living (1949 film) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done Alsee (talk) 00:53, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Linking
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Linking ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done AlbinoFerret  17:40, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiBullying
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiBullying ? See the subsection Wikipedia talk:WikiBullying in your close. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done Alsee (talk) 07:29, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Siege of Kobanî
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Siege of Kobanî ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done – closed as Keep flag icons, as per WP:WORDPRECEDENCE. --IJBall (talk) 21:42, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done - closed as unsuccessful. <span style="color: #3BB9FF; font-style: italic; font-family: Lato, sans-serif'">Esquivalience t 21:56, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Template talk:Freenode
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Template talk:Freenode ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Already done - however it was not archived, I archived it. <span style="color: #3BB9FF; font-style: italic; font-family: Lato, sans-serif'">Esquivalience t 22:33, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Fox_News_Channel
Would an experienced editor deliver the baby</S> assess the consensus at Talk:Fox_News_Channel

This RFC has been templated and open for 9 1/2 months! It fell through the cracks either because the RFC template used was a redirect to the actual RFC template, or perhaps because the RFC maintenance software was confused by a fictional year-2252 comment date.

Micro summary: RfC asked about usage of "some" vs "many" in the lede. Late in the process some editors came up with an alternate well sourced wording. That alternate appears to have been stable for the last 7 months. Perhaps close it as stale? Or maybe an obvious No Consensus on the "some vs many", and some non-binding comment that the article now has a stable alternate wording? Alsee (talk) 16:07, 31 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Done – Close by Guy as moot (i.e. ). --IJBall (talk) 19:17, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (US stations)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (US stations) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Already done AlbinoFerret  16:02, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (US stations)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (US stations) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Already done AlbinoFerret  16:03, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (US stations)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (US stations) ? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Already done  AlbinoFerret  16:04, 2 June 2015 (UTC)