Wikipedia:Collaboration of the week/Removed/2004/Archive 7

This page contains nominations from the main collaboration of the week page which have been removed due to lack of votes or because they're unsuitable nominations from October 4 to October 15, 2004.

Al Jarreau (3 votes in 1 week)

 * Nominated September 27; needs 5 votes by October 4 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Maurreen 15:34, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) PlasmaDragon 18:36, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) PedanticallySpeaking 15:30, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Is he well-known in the US or Canada? Can't say I've ever heard of him. Warofdreams 19:14, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * He's American - from Wisconsin. I'd bet money that his work has touched your life in some way without your knowledge. Davodd 21:08, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)
 * However I feel that the fact that I had to open the article to find out who this person was (and am still none the wiser) shows that it's not necessarily a good collaboration candidate. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 00:06, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. - D AVODD  [[User_talk:Davodd|« TALK »]] 23:42, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)

Havana (13 votes in 3 weeks)

 * Nominated September 14; needs 15 votes by October 5 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support Comments:
 * 1) [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 14:43, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) Conti|✉ 15:06, Sep 14, 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) J OHN C OLLISON | (Ludraman) 16:40, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) Jwrosenzweig 23:01, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) Burgundavia 08:54, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) Graham  ☺ | Talk 15:50, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 7) Davodd 23:18, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * 8) Jonik 12:18, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 9) Filiocht 15:10, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 10) Thepedestrian 19:04, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)
 * 11)  The bellman 12:17, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 12) Maurreen 23:30, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 13) ZayZayEM 08:21, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Could be quite interesting, I feel. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 15:50, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Lots of history, culture and controversy yet to be mentioned. Davodd 23:18, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. --Conti|✉ 16:18, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)

Afro (9 votes in 2 weeks)

 * Nominated September 20; needs 10 votes by October 5 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support: Comments:
 * 1) Pyrop 00:08, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) PlasmaDragon 18:17, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Ambi 08:31, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) Aramgutang 02:52, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) Dragan 11:05, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) The bellman 05:04, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 7) [[User:Lachatdelarue|Lachatdelarue (talk)]] 21:23, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 8) Maurreen 23:32, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 9) ZayZayEM 08:21, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * One of the most culturally significant hairstyles, which has a history behind it tightly tied to the American Civil Rights Movement. Besides, this would be fun to work on. Pyrop 00:08, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)

Reason:
 * Lack of votes. --Conti|✉ 16:18, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)

Loving (TV series) (3 votes in 1 week)

 * Nominated September 28; needs 5 votes by October 5 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Mike H 12:23, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) PedanticallySpeaking 15:30, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Revth 01:44, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * The soap opera aired for twelve years and the current incarnation of this article has three sentences: one with the start and end dates, one with the creators' names, and the last one with a VERY BRIEF plot synopsis (i.e. who the main family was). When we have in-depth articles on All My Children and Another World (TV series), we need SOMETHING more on Loving.

Reason:
 * Lack of votes. --Conti|✉ 16:18, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)

Tidal power (11 votes in 3 weeks)

 * Nominated September 14; needs 15 votes by October 5 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) J OHN C OLLISON  | (Ludraman) 17:22, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) PlasmaDragon 18:02, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) ALoan (Talk) 14:45, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) Conti|✉ 16:33, Sep 15, 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) TPK 19:26, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC) Talk
 * 6) pir 16:31, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 7) Burgundavia 08:54, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)
 * 8) Jpittman 00:25, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 9) Fpahl 10:00, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 10) Confuzion 11:40, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 11) Maurreen 23:28, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Whoa! We need waaaaaay more. J OHN C OLLISON | (Ludraman) 17:22, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. -- ALoan (Talk) 18:10, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Iguanodon (16 votes in 4 weeks)
(Originally nominated as the redirect Iguanadon)


 * Nominated September 8; needs 20 votes by October 6 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support 
 * 1) Graham  ☺ | Talk 15:12, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) Theresa Knott  (Nate the Stork) 13:31, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) pie4all88 22:50, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) Davodd 01:00, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) Matthewmayer 16:54, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) Jwrosenzweig 00:25, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC) I'd forgotten about this one since childhood, but well worthy of an article, as I recall.
 * 7) Austin Hair 00:29, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)  The first, the coolest.
 * 8) J3ff 07:28, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 9) ALoan (Talk) 14:45, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 10) A bit different to the topics we've had recently. Warofdreams 11:45, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 11) Burgundavia 08:58, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)
 * 12) Aramgutang 02:52, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 13) gadfium 23:11, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 14) The bellman 05:01, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 15) Sayeth 15:15, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)
 * 16) ZayZayEM 08:19, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments
 * Currently a redirect to Dinosaur I'm sure something can be said for this plucky little creature that is worthy of an article. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 15:12, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * This would be a pretty cool project to work on as a community. --pie4all88 22:50, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Blimey - a redirect? The iguanadon is fascinating - one of the first dinosaurs to be described properly (Gideon Mantell, 1824); poorly reconstructed for many years ("the spike goes where?"); central to the story of Mantell and Richard Owen - just read Bill Bryson's A Short History of Nearly Everything. --- ALoan (Talk) 14:45, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Now redirected to Iguanodon Susvolans 11:51, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * It's good to see an article does exist, but it is still a stub and would benefit from being CotW. Warofdreams 12:08, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Agreed -- Graham ☺ | Talk 12:23, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. -- D AVODD  [[User_talk:Davodd|« TALK »]] 06:26, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)

Revolving door (6 votes in 2 weeks)

 * Nominated September 22; needs 10 votes by October 6 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Litefantastic 23:54, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) PlasmaDragon 18:09, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 11:09, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 15:56, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) supportGeni 21:09, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) Revth 02:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * I started this when I was shocked surprised mildly interested to find that we did not already have an article on it. The picture and the bulk (such as it is) of the text are mine. -Litefantastic 23:54, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * There really should be an aticle on this. I'd be especially interested to find out who invented the thing and how they came by the idea. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 11:09, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. -- D AVODD  [[User_talk:Davodd|« TALK »]] 06:26, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)

Cat breed (4 votes in 1 week)

 * Nominated September 29; needs 5 votes by October 6 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support: Comments:
 * 1) Norm 20:56, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) [[User:Lachatdelarue|Lachatdelarue (talk)]] 21:10, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Davodd 23:23, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) Maurreen 23:47, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Only a paragraph, and many of the articles on the linked List of cat breeds are stubs/red links. Cats need more than this. Norm 20:56, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Sounds like something alot of people could contribute to.

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. -- D AVODD  [[User_talk:Davodd|« TALK »]] 06:26, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)

Culture of Finland (not a stub)

 * Nominated October 8; needs 5 votes by October 15 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Shorne 01:31, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Far from adequate.
 * Not a stub, should be removed. D AVODD  [[User_talk:Davodd|« TALK »]] 06:21, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Not a stub. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 23:27, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Culture of France (not a stub)

 * Nominated October 8; needs 5 votes by October 15 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Shorne 02:26, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Just a shell of an article. Sorely needs to be fleshed out. Shorne 02:26, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Not a stub. D AVODD  [[User_talk:Davodd|« TALK »]] 06:27, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)
 * Is there a limit to how many CotWs someone can nominate?

Reason for removal:
 * Not a stub. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 23:27, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

MOBO Awards (1 vote in 1 week)

 * Nominated October 1; needs 5 votes by October 8 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Dmn / [[User talk:Dmn|Դմն ]] 22:59, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Nominations for this year's awards caused plenty of controversy, but there isn't a single mention of MOBO in the wikipedia.Dmn / [[User talk:Dmn|Դմն ]] 22:59, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * What is it? Maurreen 22:54, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * It's an awards show in the UK for "Music of Black Origin". It's noteworthy in the UK, but I doubt anybody in most of the world has heard of it.

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. --Conti|✉ 17:46, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)

Signature (19 votes in 4 weeks)

 * Nominated September 11; needs 20 votes by October 9 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) J OHN C OLLISON  | (Ludraman) 08:21, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) Graham  ☺ | Talk 12:45, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) PlasmaDragon 15:31, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) • Benc • 19:00, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) Conti|✉ 19:04, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) Factitious 21:32, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * 7) Here's mine: TPK 19:02, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC) Talk
 * 8) [[User:Aranel|Aranel ("Sarah")]] 21:37, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 9) PedanticallySpeaking 15:49, Sep 13, 2004 (UTC)
 * 10) Donar Reiskoffer 06:47, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 11) Jwrosenzweig 23:04, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 12) Jpittman 00:19, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 13) Jleedev 02:44, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * 14) JamesTeterenko 19:42, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 15) jengod 01:48, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)
 * 16) gadfium 22:45, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 17) Maurreen 23:26, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 18) D AVODD  [[User_talk:Davodd|« TALK »]] 02:03, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * 19) ZayZayEM 08:21, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * There's a lot more to say. J OHN C OLLISON | (Ludraman) 08:21, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * This should be a fun one to collaborate on. Forgeries and forensic science; who can ask for more? • Benc • 19:00, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * It would be great to include a picture John Hancock's signature, too. &mdash;Jleedev 02:44, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. --Conti|✉ 17:46, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)

International Obfuscated C Code Contest (4 votes in 1 week)

 * Nominated October 2; needs 5 votes by October 9 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support
 * 1) Ta bu shi da yu 13:22, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) Cyopardi 23:20, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Shorne 03:52, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) Gadykozma 16:13, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments
 * Fascinating code comes out of this contest. I especially like the ones that reproduce other programs. - Ta bu shi da yu 13:22, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Not from a topic category we need more coverage of. ✏ Sverdrup 15:50, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. --Conti|✉ 17:46, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)

Military history of Korea (7 votes in 2 weeks)

 * Nominated September 27; needs 10 votes by October 10 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 15:58, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) ugen64 03:42, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Filiocht 12:28, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) [[User:Eequor|η [[Image:Venus symbol (blue).gif|♀]] [ υωρ ]]] 22:52, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) Maurreen 23:44, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) RJH 20:46, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 7) GuloGuloGulo 02:21, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. --Conti|✉ 17:46, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)

Music production (3 votes in 1 week)

 * Nominated October 3; needs 5 votes by October 10 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Tom- 17:12, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) ZayZayEM 08:23, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Shorne 22:01, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Unless I'm really missing something, I can't find an article about how music is produced. Tom- 17:12, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * We have sound recording, record producer, audio engineering, and recording studio. The first is probably the best article related to this, but we may want to hve an article about music production as a process in particular.  &mdash;siro χ o  23:04, Oct 3, 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. --Conti|✉ 17:46, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)

Junk mail (21 votes in 5 weeks)

 * Nominated September 5; needs 25 votes by October 10 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support
 * 1) Davodd 19:13, Sep 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) Graham  ☺ | Talk 20:05, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) [[User:Aranel|Aranel ("Sarah")]] 22:34, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 04:04, 2004 Sep 6 (UTC)
 * 5) PFHLai 10:27, 2004 Sep 6 (UTC)
 * 6) Norm 11:53, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 7) TPK 12:11, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 8) Mpolo 13:49, Sep 6, 2004 (UTC)
 * 9) Farside 17:40, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 10) pie4all88 00:21, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 11) PedanticallySpeaking 20:02, Sep 7, 2004 (UTC)
 * 12) Key45 08:10, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 13) Theresa Knott  (Nate the Stork) 13:31, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 14) MikeX 02:47, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * 15) ZZ 23:32, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 16) J3ff 07:30, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 17) sabre23t 23:37, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 18) Burgundavia 09:00, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)
 * 19) Felix Wan 09:50, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 20) Shimmin 17:53, Sep 25, 2004 (UTC)
 * 21) pir 23:04, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Can you believe this has no entry here? Davodd 19:13, Sep 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Spam (e-mail)? -- Ævar Arnfjörð [ Bjarmason]   20:14, 2004 Sep 5 (UTC)
 * Spam is a subset of junk mail. Davodd 21:49, Sep 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * Or did you perhaps mean mail in this real universe some people speak of also known as the metaworld ? -- Ævar Arnfjörð [ Bjarmason]   20:16, 2004 Sep 5 (UTC)
 * I think the subject is more encompassing than just spam, and should include the rubbish that gets put through your letterbox in the real world... -- Graham ☺ | Talk 20:32, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * This would be bulk mail advertising - snail mail, electronic mail or otherwise. FYI: "Junk mail" has 1.06 million Google hits. Davodd 21:44, Sep 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * Our articles on "real-world", everyday topics always seem to get good responses. I'd love to see this on the main page. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 04:04, 2004 Sep 6 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. --Conti|✉ 22:13, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)

Penectomy (3 votes in 1 week)

 * Nominated October 3; needs 5 votes by October 10 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Mmm Mmm 23:54, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) pie4all88 00:45, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Shorne 03:27, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * I thought I had nominated this, but couldn't find it in the removed section: Collaboration of the week/Removed. Well anyway, it's a common surgical procedure for penile cancer victims, and other groups of people that only has a few sentences. Mmm Mmm
 * Hey weirdo, Did it ever occur to you that it was removed because it was unsuitable?  You're an idiot.  The only people that would ever want to research on that are sex perverts. TrollQueen 00:04, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * That was uncalled for, TrollQueen...and you have an equally uncalled for User page. --pie4all88 00:45, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Whatever. :-P TrollQueen 06:39, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * The previous nomination was deleted here (there was a comment on the previous nomination that is worth mentioning again: Mmm Mmm also nominated John Wayne Bobbitt). The previous nomination of penectomy should be in /Removed/Archive 6 but I can't see it there either (indeed, checking for penectomy, I see that the pruning of Yaser Esam Hamdi at about the same time has gone missing too).  There is some dicussion of the pruning of penectomy in the COTW talk page.  FWIW, I can see no reason why penectomy this should not be a COTW candidate (although I doubt that many people would have much to add to the article). -- ALoan (Talk) 18:03, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep the nomination since it meets listing criteria. Easier to let it take its ride to the removed page like most other nominations than to justify discriminating against the topic. No harm done waiting a few more days. D AVODD  [[User_talk:Davodd|« TALK »]] 23:35, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)
 * I for one am curious to know more about this subject. For example, what is done to allow urination? Shorne 05:25, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. --Conti|✉ 15:30, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)

History of the Mediterranean (4 votes in 1 week)

 * Nominated October 5; needs 5 votes by October 12 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1)  &mdash;siro χ o  05:03, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) Shorne 04:00, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) J3ff 23:36, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) Conti|✉ 17:54, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * This is a sadly lacking article for such an important region. &mdash;siro χ o
 * History of the Mediterranean Sea, or of the cultures around it? FWIW, I think this could sensibly be merged with Mediterranean Sea. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:19, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * The title should be as proposed, for consistency with the numerous other articles of this sort. Shorne 04:00, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. Warofdreams 12:35, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Mediaeval Britain (27 votes in 7 weeks)

 * Nominated August 25; needs 28 votes by October 13 (minimum 4 votes per week)

Support
 * 1) SimonP 20:15, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) PlasmaDragon 23:20, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) [[User:OldakQuill|Oldak Quill]] 23:55, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) ALoan (Talk) 13:41, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) SaintNuclear 00:02, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) • Benc • 12:19, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 7) zoney ▓█▒ talk 18:09, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 8) GRutter 19:13, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 9) RJH 22:54, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 10) Dmn / [[User talk:Dmn|Դմն ]] 03:16, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 11) Tothebarricades.tk 21:15, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 12) Graham ☺ | Talk 14:15, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 13) Jwrosenzweig 20:15, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC) (It was next in line for a pet project for me, but it will be a much better article if everyone contributes -- I do like writing articles from scratch, though. Well, I'll just take on one of the 4,930,391,012 other articles that still need to be written...)
 * 14) James F. (talk) 00:47, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 15) Warofdreams 18:13, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 16) [[User:Bodnotbod| bodnotbod  »  .....TALK Q uietly  )  ]] 01:26, Sep 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * 17) Peregrine981 23:34, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)
 * 18) Average Earthman 10:25, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 19) adamsan  19:37, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 20) Maurreen 15:16, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 21) ScottyBoy900Q ∞ 18:23, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 22) Sc147 00:31, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 23) [[User:Eequor|η [[Image:Venus symbol (blue).gif|♀]] [ <font size="+1">υωρ ]]] 22:54, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 24) Sjc 10:59, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 25) Jpittman 19:07, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 26) NeoJustin 00:29, Oct 12, 2004
 * 27) Shorne 09:27, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * We have a good articles on Ancient Britain and Roman Britain and a decent modern history at History of the United Kingdom, but nothing in the middle. - SimonP 20:15, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't the article be at Mediaeval Britain? Warofdreams 15:41, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Yes. Good point. • Benc • 12:19, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Change made. zoney ▓<FONT COLOR="white">█</FONT>▒ talk 18:09, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Umm. Shouldn't this actually be at Mediæval Britain? James F. (talk) 00:45, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * For those of you interested in this article, I'd like to point out that we have a woefully incomplete article on the English Renaissance which would love some attention too. Jwrosenzweig 20:16, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:05, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Art history (11 votes in 3 weeks)

 * Nominated September 22; needs 15 votes by October 13 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Isomorphic 23:24, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) PlasmaDragon 18:08, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) ScottyBoy900Q ∞ 18:26, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) Fuelbottle | Talk 23:22, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) Maurreen 12:20, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) Davodd 19:25, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)
 * 7) [[User:Eequor|<font size="+1">η <font style="position: relative; bottom: -1px; vertical-align: text-bottom">[[Image:Venus symbol (blue).gif|♀]] [ <font size="+1">υωρ ]]] 22:52, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 8) <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">func(talk) 03:11, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 9) pir 23:03, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 10) RJH 20:39, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 11) Shorne 03:49, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Just a list of topics for a major field of study. There really ought to be an article here, on what art history is and how it's studied. Let's fill this gap in Wikipedia's humanities coverage. Isomorphic 23:24, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Just clarifying this is the academic field, not History of art, which should be expanded beyond its redirectedness.Davodd 19:25, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:05, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Wedding planner (5 votes in 2 weeks)

 * Nominated September 29; needs 10 votes by October 13 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 21:20, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) [[User:Lachatdelarue|Lachatdelarue (talk)]] 21:24, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Theresa Knott  (The torn steak) 21:38, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) J3ff 17:13, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) Maurreen 23:48, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Such a common profession, and obsolutely no info in Wikipedia? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 21:20, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:05, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Time bomb (explosive) (3 votes in 1 week)

 * Nominated October 6; needs 5 votes by October 13 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) D AVODD  [[User_talk:Davodd|« TALK »]] 00:38, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 02:21, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Fastfission 01:44, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Tick tick tick... Cornerstone of pulp thrillers and real-life terror plots.(no article at time of nomination). D AVODD  [[User_talk:Davodd|« TALK »]] 00:38, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:05, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations (2 votes in 1 week)

 * Nominated October 6; needs 5 votes by October 13 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Seancp 13:25, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) Pyramide 17:52 11 Oct 2004 (CET)

Comments:
 * There really should be some information about this very important but relatively unknown (outside of the U.S. Air Force) organization.

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:05, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Transatlantic slave trade (4 votes in 1 week)

 * Nominated October 6; needs 5 votes by October 13 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) jengod 23:11, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) PlasmaDragon 15:57, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Conti|✉ 17:54, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) Fastfission 01:47, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * The slavery article is not abysmal, and both triangular trade and Middle Passage exist, but still...
 * Important. Shorne 04:02, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I just discovered that we actually already have a more sizeable article at the unintuitively named Slave trade (Americas). - SimonP 04:10, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)
 * Should these two articles just be merged then? If so, under what title? GuloGuloGulo 08:45, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge and wp:cleanup - not a COTW. violet/riga (t) 14:15, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Withdrawing my vote, since this is now a dead issue. Shorne 09:23, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:05, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2004 (2 votes in 1 week)

 * Nominated October 7; needs 5 votes by October 14 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 15:34, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) Dmn / [[User talk:Dmn|Դմն ]] 15:49, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * With the final of the second Junior Eurovision Contest coming closer (November 20), expanding this article would be a perfect way to draw some more people to wikipedia. The article is horribly stubby. It's also an article a lot of people can work on. Europeans can write about their country's candidate, Scandinavians can write about its history before it became European and others can link to similar shows in their country and give some critical points.

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. -- ALoan (Talk) 11:10, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Eye, Human eye (17 votes in 4 weeks)

 * Nominated September 17; needs 20 votes by October 15 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Eloquence* 10:25, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) Support <span style=" font-family: Optima, sans-serif; border-bottom: 1px solid blue;">[[User:Sverdrup|❝Sverdrup❞ ]] 14:18, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Support both. Filiocht 14:24, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) [[User:Aranel|Aranel ("Sarah")]] 18:53, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) Farside 20:49, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) Lexor|Talk 13:35, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 7) T.P.K. 08:32, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 8) Sayeth 22:57, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC), if I have to choose one, I'd say go for just "eye"
 * 9) Fpahl 09:57, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 10) Pcarbonn 19:01, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 11) Fuelbottle | Talk 21:39, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 12) Maurreen 15:21, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 13) Mpolo 16:50, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)
 * 14) Straal 11:33, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 15) gadfium 22:46, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 16) Both ZayZayEM 08:20, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 17) Both. Shorne 03:46, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Like many of our articles on anatomy, this one is quite poor (and doesn't distinguish human and animal anatomy). This should be developed into a good overview article that summarizes the different sub-articles, particularly the presently non-existent human eye.--Eloquence*
 * Eye needs a section on evolution of the eye at the very least. Filiocht 14:24, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * I second that. Fpahl 09:57, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Only one of these should be nominated, or both separately. People voting one or another (yes, including me..) brings too many problems. --Farside 20:49, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * I thought the point of calling it "collaboration of the week" was that we don't limit ourselves to one article. I'd say we can state clearly that it can only be voted for as a package.--Eloquence*
 * "Each week a Collaboration of the Week will be picked using this page. This is a specific topic which either has no article or a basic stub page" Tom- 16:50, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Just look at "what links here" on the Eye page and you'll see (no pun intended) why we need to expand this one. I think a good compromise would be that we nominate Eye and have a subsection on the human eye directing people to the (non-existant) main article "Human eye". That way, someone will probably expand human eye as well. Sayeth 23:06, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. -- ALoan (Talk) 11:10, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Culture of Hungary (2 votes in 1 week)

 * Nominated October 8; needs 5 votes by October 15 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Shorne 01:30, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) Tuf-Kat 09:07, Oct 9, 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Inadequate.
 * Previously nominated on 18 July, obtaining 8 votes over 3 weeks. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:49, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * note: music of Hungary exists Tuf-Kat 09:07, Oct 9, 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. -- ALoan (Talk) 11:10, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Diet Pepsi (3 votes in 1 week)

 * Nominated October 8; needs 5 votes by October 15 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Litefantastic 02:41, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) Lachatdelarue [[User talk:Lachatdelarue|(talk)]] 14:05, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Pyramide 18:41, 10 Oct 2004 (ECT)

Comments:
 * It's actually kind of amazing this doesn't already exist. -Litefantastic 02:41, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Page created User:Pyramide
 * Will need to look at Pepsi ONE, Diet Pepsi Vanilla etc. (I started by merging in Pepsi Max) --Henrygb 00:06, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. -- ALoan (Talk) 11:10, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Extinction (29 votes in 8 weeks)

 * Nominated August 20; needs 32 votes by October 15 (minimum 4 votes per week)

Support
 * 1) EastNile 16:47, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) Farside 09:45, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) GRutter 13:35, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) Lockeownzj00 19:22, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) TPK 07:39, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) RJH 16:05, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * 7) Burgundavia 08:39, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)
 * 8) [[User:OldakQuill|Oldak Quill]] 23:55, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * 9) ALoan (Talk) 13:41, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * 10) Maastrictian 19:50, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * 11) Davodd 17:14, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)
 * 12) rhyax 10:07, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 13) Lexor|Talk 13:18, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 14) Chessphoon 22:22, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 15) &mdash;Rory ☺ 13:51, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * 16) Vanderesch 13:40, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 17) Walden 14:14, 2004 Sep 20 (UTC)
 * 18) --Viki 15:14, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 19) MGM 11:06, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * 20) Fpahl 09:09, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 21) ScottyBoy900Q ∞ 18:22, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 22) Aramgutang 02:52, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 23) Baryonyx 00:46, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)
 * 24) Theresa Knott  (The torn steak) 10:04, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 25) <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">func(talk) 10:42, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 26) Maurreen 23:14, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 27) ZayZayEM 08:19, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 28) Shorne 03:43, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 29) Sandos 17:51, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Pretty significant topic, with not a whole not. EastNile 16:47, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * We need more of these general topics to be well-written. Davodd 17:14, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)
 * A lot of the information on Extinction event deals with the broader topic of Extinction... --pie4all88 00:21, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * No need to merge the two... extinction event article needs more meat too, but it doesn't really deal with the many facets of extinction in a general sense- causes, effects on evolution, etc. #EastNile 19:33, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Extinction and Extinction event can be merged, with extinction being a primary topic. If there needs to be sub-topics on extinction events, then there should be individual ones for the mass extinctions (which there are), linked back into a combined article. They can also be left separate... it largely depends on how large and detailed people want the main article on extinction to get. If left separate, the article on ELEs should also make note of other important, but not one of the Big Five, extinctions. Baryonyx 00:46, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. Shorne 22:56, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Civil rights (24 votes in 5 weeks)

 * Nominated September 10; needs 25 votes by October 15 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 16:00, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) [[User:Bodnotbod| bodnotbod »  .....TALK Q uietly  )  ]] 16:12, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC) - (see also the even worse Civil rights history).
 * 3) PlasmaDragon 16:55, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 21:47, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * 5)  &mdash;<font color=#627562>siro <font color=#627562>χ <font color=#627562>o  22:03, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) Ambi 00:30, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 7) Conti|✉ 00:39, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * 8) TPK 16:29, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 9) • Benc • 19:02, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 10) PFHLai 22:14, 2004 Sep 11 (UTC)
 * 11) Chopchopwhitey 09:35, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 12) Peregrine981 23:36, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)
 * 13) KNewman 03:48, Sep 15, 2004 (UTC)
 * 14) ALoan (Talk) 14:45, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 15) Burgundavia 08:56, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)
 * 16) Lexor|Talk 13:37, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 17) Maurreen 04:20, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 18) Thepedestrian 19:03, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)
 * 19) [[User:Eequor|<font size="+1">η <font style="position: relative; bottom: -1px; vertical-align: text-bottom">[[Image:Venus symbol (blue).gif|♀]] [ <font size="+1">υωρ ]]] 22:52, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 20) <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">func(talk) 03:15, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * 21) Sarge Baldy 05:43, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)
 * 22) Sean Curtin 02:13, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
 * 23) pir 23:05, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 24) Shorne 09:29, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * Quite stubby. Lacks any sort of philosophical discussion. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 21:47, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * This article is in a sad state &mdash;<font color=#627562>siro <font color=#627562>χ <font color=#627562>o  22:03, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * As distinguished from human rights which is less stubby but also rather short. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:45, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. Shorne 22:56, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Working-class culture (6 votes in 2 weeks)

 * Nominated October 1; needs 10 votes by October 15 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Warofdreams 18:19, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) PlasmaDragon 21:22, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Sarge Baldy 02:21, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) J OHN C OLLISON | (Ludraman) 20:22, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) pir 23:02, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) Arlechinio --Arlechinio 22:58, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * This is such a big topic, covering a whole range of cultures around the world in many cases distinct from national and regional cultures, and what if anything they have in common. A search on Google gives over 10,000 hits, so plenty for everyone to find, as well as examples from their own experiences. Warofdreams 18:19, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * It seems to broad to be meaningful. Maurreen 23:53, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I think we need to write a good article on the broad topic before considering narrower areas which it covers - these could always be spun off from a decent, broad article. Warofdreams 14:02, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Whose working class? I should imagine that this differs hugely between, say, the US and China. Far too broad a subject to work on meaningfully. Filiocht 12:23, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I'd have to see a stub before I would vote on this, useful though I think it could be. Shorne 03:30, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * This needs to be related to classification of Class, "Marxism", "The registra general's" classification, etc. How do we define working class culture, without defining who is working class?? --Arlechinio 22:58, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. Shorne 22:56, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Holodomor (6 votes in 2 weeks)

 * Nominated October 2; needs 10 votes by October 16 (minimum 5 votes per week)

Support:
 * 1) Xed 21:52, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) The bellman 10:55, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) GuloGuloGulo 20:59, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) D AVODD  [[User_talk:Davodd|« TALK »]] 23:37, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) jengod 04:39, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) Ravn 11:25, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments:
 * A disturbingly short article, considering the death toll of up to 10 million – (there's more information on Wikipedia about a Fictional plant)
 * Article currently entirely missing due to copyright.&mdash;Bsktcase 05:51, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * God, for a second there i thought you meant someone had copyrighted the Ukranian holocaust. Now there is a scary thought. The bellman 10:55, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * What is a holodomor? Maurreen 23:06, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * The Ukrainian holocaust. 10 million dead. The fact that you asked the question is perhaps indicative of this subjects need of collaborative work --Xed 23:57, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I'm ashamed to say I've never heard the term, although the sufferings of the Soviets under Stalin are probably familiar to many. jengod 04:42, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)
 * The claim of "10 million dead" is nothing but propaganda. There is no reason to be ashamed of not having heard the term; it is propaganda itself. Shorne 15:25, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I don't want to split hairs, but I agree that the term "holocaust" is a bit loaded and does not apply well here. Something like "forced famine" is more revealing and accurate. I also think a more reasonable estimate of the number of deaths caused by this would be around 5 million. -GuloGuloGulo 09:25, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)


 * Before it was proven to be a work of plagiarism, I had been trying valiantly to add balance to a blatantly one-sided article. User Xed obstructed the effort at every turn, reverting entire batches of changes with no comment other than widely disseminated claims that I am a "holocaust denier". Shorne 15:25, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * I'll support this, but I have almost no confidence that the user (Xed) who put it forward will coöperate. Again, he kept reverting everything that didn't match his opinion until finally the article was exposed as plagiarism (except for the parts that I wrote) and removed. Keep in mind when voting that this will not be easy to do in a fair way, what with the stubbornness of a small number of users. Shorne 03:57, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * From the looks of things on Holodomor's history page, this poor article has gone from a two-user POV revert war to a copyright violation to a Collectivisation in the USSR redirect. The redirect seems appropriate to me; in any case, I don't feel strongly enough (either way) about resurrecting Holodomor, so I'm withdrawing my vote. &mdash;Bsktcase 15:55, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Redirecting this article is like redirecting Holocaust to World War II -Xed 16:12, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I'm also withdrawing my vote. Collectivisation in the USSR is the appropriate place for this discussion. Shorne 16:41, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Reason for removal:
 * Lack of votes. Shorne 22:56, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)