Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2006 November 21/Images

Images


 * Image:White truck driver Reginald Denny.gif ([ history] · [ last edit]) from Ruy Lopez 01:58, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Image:Dennis Leeflang.jpg ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . The GFDL caim is bogus per copyright notice on source. Erik Swanson 04:30, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Image:Temrec.png ([ history] · [ last edit]) from Intellectual Reserve, Inc. This appears to be a photocopy of copyrighted material. In an un-redacted image of a LDS temple recommend "©2003 IRI" would appear in the lower-right hand corner of the "Signature of member of stake presidency or mission president" box. --FyzixFighter 04:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * A person handed me this card (which was / is folded in the middle); I scanned it on a personal copier. The only areas that I redacted (with PhotoShop ™; they are the areas filled in with black) were those that could identify the issuer and / or the holder of the card; there was no copyright notice on this card when I received it or returned it. This person did not wish to be associated with this image. Could you show an example of what you call an "un-redacted" card to prove that some may have a copyright notice? Remember, around Wikipedia, we verify. This is the first and only 'new'  temple recommend I have seen in person; back a few years I saw them fairly often, but they were a different style then. If you do a Yahoo image search you can see much clearer examples of this card than what I scanned.  Duke53  | Talk 04:49, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * An example of an "un-redacted" image with copyright notice . For the admin investigating this, IRI can be contacted through information found on this page. --FyzixFighter 05:12, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That link is a beauty but I neither downloaded nor copied anything from their site; I created this scan personally. Duke53  | Talk 05:20, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Which makes it no less of an infringement. The original is a copyrighted document; the version posted is clearly an unauthorized reproduction in full.  Doesn't matter who did it or whether a copyright notice appeared on the document; if they didn't have a license from the owner to make copies then the copies are illegal. alanyst /talk/ 05:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily. It might be fair use. Obviously, Intellectual Reserve, Inc. is not going to grant permission to use an image of the recommend&mdash;don't even ask. But you can often use images of copyrighted forms like this in the English Wikipedia for purpose of commentary or criticism. This is a gray area of U.S. copyright law that depends upon a number of factors. One thing for sure is that the image shouldn't be of such high quality that someone could print it from a color printer and pass it off as a real recommend.  CO GD EN  08:34, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * (Indenting reset.) I concede that there may be a harbor under fair use for some portrayal of a temple recommend. I don't know whether this particular image qualifies due to its high resolution and reproduction of the entire document.  (But maybe it does because of the "commentary and criticism" clause, and because it's a standardized form with little "expression" conveyed.)  So either fair use does not apply and the image needs to be removed or replaced with a different version, or else fair use applies but the licensing is incorrect and the image needs to be re-tagged under the fair use template instead of GFDL, and copyright needs to be clearly attributed to the LDS church or IRI.  I think COGDEN proposes a good test: if someone could take the image and, with perhaps only a little work such as colorization and erasure of redaction blocks, create a persuasive forgery of a real recommend, then it's not protected under fair use since it undermines the intrinsic value of the copyrighted work. alanyst /talk/ 16:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * (another potential issue) Additionally, the card in question is similar to a credit card, in that the person who has possision of the card does not legally own it (the bank does for CC). The church does in the case of the TR. Therefore in addition to the copyright issue (and the decision of whether it is fair use or not); there is the additional issue that the property was misappropriated by the person who held the recommend when they gave it to another in order to photocopy. I'm not sure if this would impact the decision here or not - but it may so I am raising the issue. -- Trödel 19:23, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with using an image under fair use, however, graying out the copyrighted portion that states "©2003 IRI" makes it seems that the owner of the image knows that the image is in violation of the copyright, and knowingly removed the copyright notice (ie, the author had the intent to remove copyright notice to break copyright laws). My vote would be to re-include the copyright notice and use under fair use, but not in its current form, which due to the removal of the copyright notice would not hold up under fair use due to the "intent" portions of copyright law. Delete and re-do. -Visorstuff 19:19, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Image:Chaes.jpg ([ history] · [ last edit]) from.
 * Image has had no copyright tag, then a fair use tag, and now PD-RU-exempt. The image does not appear to meet the criteria listed in PD-RU-exempt.  As for fair use, there is at least one free image of Chernobyl available such as Image:Chernobyl2006.jpg which is perfectly acceptable IMHO, but has been removed from Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant.  —Wknight94 (talk) 06:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Image:Women's fiel hockey chile vs australia.jpg ([ history] · [ last edit]) from David Underdown 10:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Image:Las leonas vs India.jpg ([ history] · [ last edit]) from . David Underdown 10:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * These images were both uploaded by user:Felix Portier fromt eh FIH website, which specifically asserts copyright with no license of any kind that I can see. David Underdown 10:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Image:Australia vs USA footy.jpg and Image:Laura summerton runing.jpg: same user as above, but from different sports bodies. --Pak21 13:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Image:Coocrowd.jpg ([ history] · [ last edit]) from and other websites. Nomination completed by DumbBOT 13:36, 21 November 2006 (UTC)