Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2011 October 19

19 October 2011
SCV for 2011-10-19 [ Edit]

Copyright investigations (manual article tagging)

 * Sex workers' rights ([ history] · [ last edit]) from http://web.archive.org/web/20080820101422/http://www.smmirror.com/Volume1/issue6/hooker.html, possibly other sources. See talk.. MER-C 02:46, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Article cleaned by investigator or others. No remaining infringement. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:53, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * List of All My Children miscellaneous characters ([ history] · [ last edit]) from http://pinevalleybulletin.com/Quick%20Guide/BiographiesWeb/DillonTrevor.html. I don't know what other sources, but this section has been uncited and has not fairly used plot summaries. Gh87 (talk) 06:44, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Not just this section; other sections have violated the copyrights of the domain website's pages of the following domains: http://www.soapcentral.com/amc/whoswho/ and http://www.pinevalleybulletin.com/ . See   --Gh87 (talk) 07:26, 19 October 2011 (UTC)  --Gh87 (talk) 17:26, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Deleted. We cannot use text from earlier versions of the article even if it was clean as it violates attribution of our own contributors. Given that much of the text was patently a copyvio, we can't restore it, either. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:00, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Maria Santos (All My Children) ([ history] · [ last edit]) from http://www.soapcentral.com/amc/whoswho/maria.php. No further explanation needed except: this copied and pasted the webpage. Gh87 (talk) 07:28, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Per Redirects for discussion/Log/2011 October 19, the redirect pages have been nominated for discussion. I haven't close the discussion yet, but, , and  have history logs of revisions that have violated copyrights of other websites as shown above.  Need I repeat the sources further?  --Gh87 (talk) 17:26, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * If sources are needed: http://pinevalleybulletin.com/Quick%20Guide/BiographiesWeb/AndrassyGillian.html
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Article cleaned by investigator or others. No remaining infringement.  zzuuzz (talk) 23:07, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Article cleaned by investigator or others. No remaining infringement.  zzuuzz (talk) 23:07, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Tony Matterhorn ([ history] · [ last edit]) from http://www.myspace.com/djtonymatterhorn. Alan the Roving Ambassador (User:N5iln) (talk) 16:50, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Article cleaned by investigator or others. No remaining infringement.  zzuuzz (talk) 06:42, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Article cleaned by investigator or others. No remaining infringement.  zzuuzz (talk) 06:42, 23 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Hayley Vaughan Santos ([ history] · [ last edit]) from http://www.soapcentral.com/amc/whoswho/hayley.php. Gh87 (talk) 17:41, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Article cleaned by investigator or others. No remaining infringement. Archives confirm their prior publication. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:04, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Janet Dillon ([ history] · [ last edit]) from http://pinevalleybulletin.com/Quick%20Guide/BiographiesWeb/DillonJanet.html. However, I just have recently added the Storyline and then the template. I must prove that the infringement of copyrights has not been my part: in fact, I had assumed good faith on the sectoin.  The previous history logs have revisions that have violated copyrights of the same webpage.  I wonder what you can do about the logs.  —Gh87 (talk) 18:18, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. This Storyline section is your fault. Because the Storyline section was removed. And you added it back just to report a copyright violation here. No doubt to try and get this article deleted, since it was saved from deletion and you can't accept that. All of these articles you listed are in the hopes of getting them deleted, no matter that some of them have just been saved from deletion. If a plot summary violates copyright, then remove it. Truly, it's that simple. 82.200.168.154 (talk) 01:20, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Not exactly.:) What we can do in this case is use the tag copyvio-revdel. Please remember to WP:AGF. Efforts to clean up copyright problems should be lauded. Alternatively, Gh87, you can ask an administrator (like me) to do a revision deletion, but really we shouldn't add the content back in most cases. The only time I've ever done that myself is when I've removed one passage thinking that it was the extent of a problem and then immediately discovered it was not. I have sometimes reverted so that the content could be addressed more easily in one go. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:08, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Article cleaned by investigator or others. No remaining infringement. I've removed this as derivative of http://web.archive.org/web/20060106181224/http://www.soapcentral.com/amc/whoswho/janet.php. The other source actually postdates us by several years, and similarities between our 2007 insert and this source are much closer. I have not rev deleted, because I think that with a little more work this could become usable. It is not, in my opinion, that far off, although it is derivative. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:19, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Mark Dalton (All My Children) ([ history] · [ last edit]) from http://www.soapcentral.com/amc/whoswho/mark.php. Gh87 (talk) 19:10, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Article cleaned by investigator or others. No remaining infringement. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:24, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Tom Cudahy ([ history] · [ last edit]) from http://www.soapcentral.com/amc/whoswho/tom.php. Gh87 (talk) 19:35, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Article cleaned by investigator or others. No remaining infringement. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:27, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * American University of Culture & Education ([ history] · [ last edit]) from http://auce.edu.lb/about_us.php?StaticPageID=2, http://auce.edu.lb/about_us.php?StaticPageID=3, http://auce.edu.lb/about_us.php?StaticPageID=4, introduced at creation. January  ( talk ) 20:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Richie Novak ([ history] · [ last edit]) from http://www.soapcentral.com/amc/whoswho/richie.php. Gh87 (talk) 20:17, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Article cleaned by investigator or others. No remaining infringement. Same IP contaminated Patrick Thornhart, now also cleaned. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:33, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * from http://www.soapcentral.com/amc/whoswho/tara.php and http://pinevalleybulletin.com/Quick%20Guide/BiographiesWeb/JeffersonTaraMartin.html, although now a redirect page per AfD. --Gh87 (talk) 20:53, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting support.svg Purged. Copyright problem removed from history. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:36, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * from http://pinevalleybulletin.com/Quick%20Guide/BiographiesWeb/FargateMyrtleLum.html. Now a redirect page per AFD, but history logs still contain copyright infringements within revisions.  --Gh87 (talk) 20:57, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. Like I stated to Gh87, let me point out that editors of Soap Central character biographies have been known to plagiarize Wikipedia. So just because both sites say the same thing, it does not mean that it was Wikipedia who plagiarized them. This may also be the case for other soap opera sites. 174.137.184.36 (talk) 01:31, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. That website existed since 1997. What about Terms of Use?  Does it mean anything?  Also, Wikipedia is not a substitute for SoapCentral or other soap opera sites that DO NOT infringe copyrights of Wikipedia articles, unless the Wikipedia articles are proven to be not copyrighted.  SoapCentral has proven its copyright notice; has they falsified copyright registration?  Has it copied or paraphrased Wikipedia articles and not credited Wikipedia?  Or has editors of Wikipedia, admin or not, copied-and-pasted SoapCentral's webpages that may infringe the rights of SoapCentral?  --Gh87 (talk) 02:25, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * UPDATE: The editors of SoapCentral contacted me. I gave the list of articles that have been tagged for copyright infringements.  They told me that the act of copying and pasting SoapCentral's articles is not permitted.  Can anyone prove that they are manipulating me into trusting them?  Right now, I trust SoapCentral editors.  --Gh87 (talk) 07:50, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Like I said at Gh87's talk page, "It does not matter that Soap Central has copyright notifications in the media, because they are still committing plagiarism. No, I cannot prove that they are plagiarizing Wikipedia articles, but I can attest to what I have seen and know. Their character bios are written by volunteers (aka fans). I have seen new character articles on that site consist of character bio plot summaries that were on Wikipedia first. This has also been observed by users of that site." 174.137.184.36 (talk) 23:14, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * And how are we to believe that Soap Central contacted Gh87? 174.137.184.36 (talk) 23:17, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Here is proof that SoapCentral copies Wikipedia. While trying to see if SoapCentral plagiarizing Wikipedia has been discussed anywhere here before, by using "Search," I located the Talk:Téa Delgado discussion. I then researched this issue by using the Wayback Machine, and this is what I found. Look at this text:


 * The Téa Wikipedia article had it first. It was created on July 22, 2008. On July 4, 2008, SoapCentral's looked like this and it was still that way on December 19, 2008. So it's easy to see that SoapCentral copied Wikipedia. This is also discussed at User talk:Moonriddengirl. 85.195.138.27 (talk) 08:31, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting support.svg Purged. Copyright problem removed from history. The fact that soapcentral copies from us sometimes does not help when Wayback confirms that in this case the external site had it first. :/ --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:17, 1 November 2011 (UTC)