Wikipedia:Drawing board/Archives/2008/February

Michael David Ben Isaacson
It has come to my attention recently that there is a remarkable individual that I would like to write an article about. I met this man at a Veteran's Administration Hospital recently; he was in the process of being treated for wounds received in line of duty, and when informed of the prognosis, thanked the doctors and left, stating that he would takle control of his own treatment plan.

I sat and talked with him, and was amazed at his background, demeanure, courage and inner strength. I am not a writer, and I need help in preparing this article. He has given me his permission to do this, but has stressed to me the importance of modesty and dignity.

I have confirmed from many sources of his accomplishments; i have recorded and compiled much information; I am amazed that he has been under the radar for so long. His name is Michael David Ben Isaacson. and he is 56 years old.

Is anyone willing to assist me? My name is Chittoma Saarkari. You can contact me a passcor@gmail.com

(Chittodoc (talk) 20:03, 2 February 2008 (UTC))


 * Hello, Chittodoc, and Welcome to Wikipedia. :) He sounds like a remarkable man, but based on what you've written above I'm not sure if Wikipedia is the place to begin with publicizing his accomplishments. It would probably depend on the many sources in which you've confirmed his accomplishments. Wikipedia, like other encyclopedias, strives to serve as a compendium of previously published information. Articles on Wikipedia for that reason need to be attributable to reliable secondary sources. If the sources you've checked on him include newspaper articles, magazines and newsbroadcasts, sources of that sort, then he may meet the guidelines for inclusion of a biography on Wikipedia. (It would depend in that case on how extensively Mr. Isaacson is covered.) If these are primarily interviews or other primary sources, then he may not. Wikipedia has a policy against using unpublished sources. This is not a judgment on whether or not he is important or worthy as an individual, but only a question of whether or not he is of encyclopedic interest.


 * If your sources are all unpublished or are primary documents (like medical records) that don't suggest Mr. Isaacson is of encyclopedic interest, then you might want instead to consider contacting some of the journals and magazines that run such stores. For example, the Disabled American Veterans publishes a magazine. Alternatively, since you say that you aren't a writer, you might want to start by contacting local news media about providing coverage of this man. If you were that taken by his honor and his experiences, I bet a lot of other people will be, too.


 * If, alternatively, your sources come from precisely those kinds of publications—vet magazines, local news—or from other sources that meet our guidelines, then you might wish to seek assistance at the proper wikiproject. This particular page was created to help people with articles they want to write themselves, and it is only frequented by a few volunteers. Wikiprojects gather editors with similar interests to work on specialized topics, and while they aren't all equally active, you stand a much greater chance of encountering somebody who will share your passion for the subject. Tucked behind this link is a long list of military wikiprojects, for example. You might want to bring your subject (and mention your sources) to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/United States military history task force. Please be aware in that case that Mr. Isaacson's request that the article be written modestly is a mandate at Wikipedia; our neutrality policy means that we cannot pass judgment on his courage or strength, but can only report on facts and on what other published reliable sources have said about the gentleman.


 * Finally, if you do not wish a hands-on involvement with his article, you can also simply list him at Requested articles, under Requested articles/Biographies. This is, I'll note, generally a slow process.


 * I'd be happy to weigh in further, if you wanted to be more specific about the types of sources you have. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:38, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Blue Bombers of Lodi
The Blue Bombers

The Blue Bombers originated as a rag tag group summed of three. They originated in the summer of 2007 in Lodi, Ohio. The group is composed of a mission leader: Mission Leader, a tech annalist's: Bazooka K, and a on field scout: Little Killer. The group participates in acts of revenge. They are similar to a modern day gang or clan, but are more so directed to put the bad people in their place, something like a vigilante liberation force.

The group has progressed over several mission such as "tee-peeing" houses, and recording topographical data. Each person contributes their own special skills to the team, Mission Leader has formed the group and provides specs and data of the mission. He gives commands that the rest of the team follows to keep things proceeding, throughout the whole mission, smoothly. Bazooka K is recognized for his invention of the T-P Rocker launcher, in-which fired streamlines of toilet paper attached to small cardboard rockets, this product was very light and used air as an efficient energy source to propel the streamline. Little Killer is on field inspector, he will scout out the area quickly and effectively making sure that the area is close to clear, to complete the operation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nerdy8675309 (talk • contribs) February 3 2008


 * Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I like your username; makes me want to sing. :)


 * Wikipedia has guidelines that govern what is appropriate content for the encyclopedia, and I'm not sure that this group would fit those. Specifically, the notability guidelines are of concern. In order to create an article on this group, you would need to be able to demonstrate that the group has already received substantial coverage from press or other qualifying media. If you are able to cite such sources, then the group may qualify. In that case, you will want to monitor to ensure you maintain a neutral tone and that you don't include any information that you may know to be true, but cannot verify.


 * Help:Starting a new page should give you all the guidance you need, but you might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article. Please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:06, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Safe Kids Athens
Hello! I'm working as a part of Safe Kids Athens and would like to post the following entry for our organization; we're just establishing our online presence. It's not likely anyone else will create the entry for us because we're a local chapter, thus our semi-faux-pas of writing our own entry.

Can any Wikipedians offer suggestions to better the article?

Thank you!



Safe Kids Athens is a coalition of Safe Kids Georgia founded in 1993. Safe Kids Athens recently obtained coalition status, putting it formally under the worldwide organization of Safe Kids Worldwide and giving it the ability to utilize the resources of the worldwide and national organization, Safe Kids USA.

The coalition was originally established as Safe Kids of Georgia in Clarke County, but later changed its name to Safe Kids Athens. The coalition has a jurisdiction of 17 counties correlating with the service area of Athens Regional Medical Center, the lead agency of the coalition.

Safe Kids Athens is led by a group of volunteers called the Safe Team, under the guidance of Evelyn Hanes, Coalition Coordinator. The Safe Team is composed of six leaders of the community, including representatives from the sheriff's department, public school system, McPhaul Child and Family Development Center, Child Abuse Prevention Council, AIDs Athens and University of Georgia police department. The Safe Team meets monthly and meets with the entire coalition of volunteers quarterly.

In keeping with the Safe Kids Worldwide mission, the Safe Kids Athens coalition's mission is to, "promote changes in attitudes, behaviors, laws and the environment to prevent accidental injury to children." Safe Kids USA focuses on many different types of injury prevention, promoting community-based groups to target specific areas, including National Safe Kids Week, Safe Kids Walk This Way, and Safe Kids Buckle Up.

Aberash (talk) 21:01, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi,Aberash. It sounds like a great organization. :) Whether or not it will work as a separate Wikipedia article will come down to the amount of reliable sourcing you can find to verify this particular coalition's notability. As that last wikilink indicates (it's tucked behind the colored text), generally non-commercial organizations are considered of encyclopedic notability if they are national or international in scale. That guideline suggests that you might want to start your article as a section at Sake Kids USA, which is problematic, since there doesn't seem to be one yet. :D You might want to start there.


 * If, on the other hand, you think that this particular local chapter is of sufficient encyclopedic notability to warrant a stand-alone article, you will need to include an assertion of what makes it more important or significant than other chapters. The easiest way to do this is probably just to demonstrate that other people are talking about it. It would probably be sufficient if you can reference magazine or newspaper articles that discuss the chapter. More than just trivial mentions that document it exist are usually required here. Full profiles help. Demonstrated significant awards help even more! These have to be demonstrated by sources separate from the organization's own website. Primary sources can be used to fill out details in articles, but not to substantiate notability.


 * In spite of your involvement with the organization, you've done a very good job of keeping the language neutral, which is a very good thing. :) The two greatest challenges facing articles of this type are accusations that they are non-notable or that they are overly promotional. Your tone will go a very long way to helping you avoid the latter; good additional referencing will considerably help you with the former.


 * Good luck, and please let me know if I can expand on any of this. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:11, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

New Verb
spaghettify - to rip to shreds

To paraphrase: 'If a person were to be sucked into a black hole, they would be spaghettified' from The Universe: The Most Dangerous Place in the Universe" 2/2/08 --Mycatnomar (talk) 17:39, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, Mycatnomar, and welcome to Wikipedia. :) We have an article on Spaghettification which does set out the use in your example above, although more in the context of stretching than being ripped to shreds. I notice that Wiktionary (which does host dictionary definitions, though Wikipedia does not) does not have an article on the word. Perhaps you would like consider establishing a definition page there? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:05, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

A boy named Delbert
i want to create a page about a boy named delbert that is very rude and smells for my friends to look at. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Getrdone95 (talk • contribs) 23:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. Please don't. Wikipedia has a policy against pages created solely to disparage their subject. Such pages are swiftly deleted, and the creators of them may be blocked. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

southland mall(houma,louisiana)
The Southland Mall has about three stories.it has The Rave clothing store, Victoria Secret,game room,another game room,KayB Toys,no bookstore,Sears,JCPenny,Dilliards,cookie store,cinnamon store,Kay Jewllers,Auntie Anne's pretzel store,video game store,foot locker.It is located between West Park Avenue and Bayou Gardens Boulevard in Houma,Louisiana(www.houma.com). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.196.211.189 (talk) 03:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello, and Welcome to Wikipedia! This particular article would be governed by the notability guidelines on companies. The rule of thumb here is noting whether the company has received significant or widespread coverage in secondary sources that are reliable and independent of the company (excluding company PR releases and information solely available on the company website&mdash;these sources may be used for additional information after notability has been established by secondary sources). All material must be attributable.


 * I find these kind of articles a little tricky to establish, as I've seen them put up for deletion on the argument that malls are not encyclopedic and then watched other people argue that they are encyclopedic because they greatly impact the local economy. This mall in particular has already been created and had an article deleted. You can see the discussion about it here. Because of that, a new article on that mall is likely to be subject to greater than usual scrutiny. When you create the article, you will not only want to indicate in the article why the mall is important, but be sure that your sources are good. If I were creating it, I'd be particularly happy to find articles in local newspapers or magazines about it and its importance in region. :)


 * WikiProject Shopping Centers gives some idea of the kinds of things to include. They recommend that articles on malls focus primarily on the mall's history and suggest that you discuss various specific aspects, including construction, ownership and the evolving store line-up within the mall. (You should look at that project page for more specifics.) It's all right if you can't cover everything they recommend; an article doesn't have to be complete to survive. But if the Southland Mall's article is only a list of stores, it is almost certain to be deleted as its predecessor was.


 * If you want to create the article, you will either need to register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles, or post it at Articles for creation, where other editors will review it to be sure it meets policies and, if so, create it for you. Before doing so, please search Wikipedia to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Help:Starting a new page should give you all the guidance you need, but you might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article. Please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Good luck, and happy editing. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:04, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Safe Kids USA
Previously I wrote and article about Safe Kids Athens Area and received some good feedback from moonriddengirl (thank you moonriddengirl!), who suggested we create a Safe Kids USA article to facilitate the incorporation of our Safe Kids Athens Area article.

With that being said, I'm proposing the following Safe Kids USA article (with some changes made to the Athens Area article)

Safe Kids USA is the United States' arm of the global network of Safe Kids Worldwide organizations, based in Washington DC. Safe Kids USA has over 300 chapters and coalitions in all 50 states, The District of Columbia and Puerto Rico, and has positioned itself as an authority on unintentional childhood injury statistics and prevention. The mission of Safe Kids USA, the same as that of Safe Kids Worldwide, is "to prevent accidental childhood injury." Safe Kids Worldwide and its subsidiaries, including Safe Kids USA

Safe Kids USA achieves this goal through a number of accident-specific prevention and awareness-promoting programs. Some of these programs include:
 * Safe Kids At Home: Partners with the Center for Disease Control to prevent child injury at home, especially in low-income and immigrant groups.
 * Safe Kids Buckle Up: Partners with corporate sponsor General Motors and Chevrolet to promote vehicle safety for children. This program is the largest of Safe Kids USA's safety programs.
 * Safe Kids Fire: Partners with First Alert and the United States Fire Administration to help prevent fires and accidents having to do with fires, especially around the home.
 * Safe Kids Ready to Roll: Partners with Bell Sports to keep children safe around bicycles, skates, and other wheel-related injuries.
 * Safe Kids Walk This Way: Partners with FedEx to promote pedestrian safety.

Local coalitions
Safe Kids programs rely on a grassroots effort by local chapters and coalitions to create action plans that will reach the needs of the community most effectively. Coalitions are formally supported by the Safe Kids USA campaign and are compromised by leaders in the community which can include, among other areas, members of the public health, education, media and public safety sectors.

Safe Kids Athens Area
Safe Kids Athens Area is a coalition of Safe Kids Georgia, founded in 1993. Safe Kids Athens Area recently obtained coalition status, putting it formally under the worldwide organization of Safe Kids Worldwide and giving it the ability to utilize the resources of the worldwide and national organization, Safe Kids USA.

The coalition was originally established as Safe Kids of Georgia in Clarke County, but later changed to Safe Kids Athens Area. The coalition primarily serves Athens and the immediately surrounding counties, but also included all 17 counties correlating with the service area of Athens Regional Medical Center, the lead agency of the coalition.

Safe Kids Athens is led by a group of volunteers called the Safe Team, under the guidance of Evelyn Hanes, Coalition Coordinator. The Safe Team does the largest amount of work for the Safe Kids Athens Area coalition, including planning, goal-setting and decision-making, and their efforts are supported by a number of volunteers from the community. The Safe Team is composed of leaders of the community, including representatives from the sheriff's department, Clarke County public school system, University of Georgia, Northeast Health District, Athens Regional Medical Center, and AIDs Athens. The Safe Team meets monthly and meets with the entire coalition of volunteers quarterly.

In keeping with the Safe Kids Worldwide mission, the Safe Kids Athens coalition's mission is to, "promote changes in attitudes, behaviors, laws and the environment to prevent accidental injury to children." Safe Kids USA focuses on many different types of injury prevention, promoting community-based groups to target specific areas, including child passenger safety, bike safety, pedestrian safety, water safety, fire and burn safety, and poison safety.

Rawtited
Pronunciation - (Raw-tie-ted) Definition- means to be doing something bad, something is really bad. Ex: Bob was doing a very rawtited job on his English essay.It looked like he made it up in 5 min. I would really like this word to be posted up on Wikipeadia. If you need anymore information just reply back and ill give it to you. Thanks!!! reply!! --Longhorns27 (talk) 02:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)Longhorns27


 * Hi, Longhorns27, and welcome to Wikipedia. In order to create an article on that word on Wikipedia, you will first need to be able to demonstrate that it is not a neologism, but is in widespread usage. You can best do this through providing reliable secondary sources. Second, you'll need to create an article that has more than a dictionary definition of the term, as Wikipedia does not host dictionary definitions. You can find some suggestions for doing that here. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Cotton On
Cotton On is an Australian apparel chain store, owned and operated by the Cotton On Group Services PTY LTD. There are four different strands of the store (Cotton On Adults; Cotton On Kids; Cotton On Body; and Rubi Shoes) each offering different products for specific target markets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by David.santolin (talk • contribs) 10:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, David.santolin, and Welcome to Wikipedia. :) This particular article would be governed by the notability guidelines on companies. The rule of thumb here is noting whether the company has received significant or widespread coverage in secondary sources that are reliable and independent of the company (excluding company PR releases and information solely available on the company website&mdash;these sources may be used for additional information after notability has been established by secondary sources). All material must be attributable.


 * I'll be perfectly frank with you, and tell you that these kinds of article are (in my observation) among the more difficult to establish on Wikipedia. If you don't do enough to assert notability (that is to say why the company is important or significant), it may be tagged for deletion for notability concerns. If you're interpreted as doing too much to assert notability, you may be taken as promoting the chain, in which case the article may be tagged for deletion for promotion. I'm not telling you this to discourage you from writing it, but to encourage you to utilize good reliable sources to verify notability and to keep a neutral tone. If there is something extravagantly notable about the chain—for example, if it is the #1 shopping destination of a certain demographic—be specific in the article about who says so and cite that source. These are, I believe, your best odds for creating the article unchallenged. :) (Personally, I believe a store operating multi-nationally with hundreds of outlets is de facto significant, but many Wikipedians do not agree.)


 * If you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends that you do not create or edit the article yourself, but instead consider proposing its creation at requested articles or at a related article or relevant WikiProject. If you do choose to write the article in such a case, you'll want to be particularly careful to approach it neutrally and without undue promotion.


 * Help:Starting a new page should give you all the guidance you need, but you might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article. Please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Good luck, and happy editing. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:22, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

iame
who am i? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aalaimo (talk • contribs) 04:58, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Geovative Solutions
This article I wrote was deleted due to A7. What else do I need to do to establish the subject as important and significant so that it can be re-posted and stay? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ununtrium (talk • contribs) 24 February 2008

Geovative Solutions, LLC is a web-based company that provides location-based software and solutions for both businesses and consumers. Their core product is the web-based Global Positioning System touring software, GeoTours.

GeoTours is used for creating media-rich GPS tours that can contain audio, images, and text. Users can view and share tours on their website through GeoTours Xchange, as well as download tours to Garmin GPS devices, smartphones, PDAs, iPods, and other devices, for use as a personal GPS tour guide. Geovative also offers GeoTours Premium for convention and visitors bureaus, travel companies, and other destination marketing organizations.

Geovative Solutions was founded in January 9, 2006 by Lane Roney and Scott Rock and is headquartered in Junction City, Kansas.

Stephanie
Stephanie is 12 years old and currently going out with (old Tennis Shoes) A.K.A- Ben! :(( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.17.231.2 (talk) 13:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations to Stephanie and Ben. To qualify for a Wikipedia article, though, they would need to meet our notability guidelines on people, which is possibly unlikely at this stage of their lives. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:04, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I am a new user in need of HELP
im trying to create an article and it keeps getting deleted with no real descripted help. I'm wasting alpt of time can someone please help me to edit Guerilla Marketing Talk Radio so I can move on and hopefully become a great wikipedian Henslee57 (talk) 00:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello, and Welcome to Wikipedia. I'm sorry that you're having trouble establishing this article. Editors at the drawing board typically do not help edit articles, but rather give feedback on how to create them. It's possible that one of the volunteers here might try to help out in that way, but you'd probably have better luck asking for involvement in that fashion from a related wikiproject.


 * In terms of general advice, your particular article would be governed by the notability guidelines on companies. If an article on a company or service does not indicate why the company or service is important, the article can be speedily deleted by criterion WP:CSD. But it has to do more than indicate why the company or service is important to avoid deletion through any means: it needs to verify the company's notability with secondary sources that are reliable and independent of the company (excluding company PR releases and information solely available on the company website&mdash;these sources may be used for additional information after notability has been established by secondary sources). One rule of thumb here is that if the company is being talked about in multiple sources, it's likely to be notable.


 * Articles must be written in a neutral tone and without undue promotion. One good way to help ensure that your text is not regarded as overly promotional is to be sure that positive assertions about the company particularly are attributed to secondary sources. It's one thing if a respectable journalist says it; it's another thing if the company does or if we do as editors.


 * You probably realize that there are policies and guidelines tucked behind the colored text. I hope that this information is helpful to you in establishing this article. If you have additional questions, please feel free to ask them here, and I will try to expand. Alternatively, you can always ask questions about using Wikipedia at the help desk, which is typically manned around the clock by volunteers. Meanwhile, if you are finding this procedure too frustrating, you might want to put this particular article aside for now and gain experience working on other articles first. You can also simply request that somebody else write the article altogether at "requested articles", although there is no guarantee that anyone will produce the article soon. Good luck. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Brain-Jitsu
CBBC production for BBC featuring 8 children between the ages of 9 and 12. They are put through various challenges designed to exercise their brain. For example: Spell Backwards, Step Forwards,' 'Lantern Whack, Number Crack, and Table of Supreme Focus.

Times: It is shown on weekdays from the 25th February at 7.30 am on BBC2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.67.49.252 (talk) 17:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. Since this isn't fiction, I presume this show would fall into the general notability guidelines, found here, which means that to establish notability you'd want to demonstrate that it is being talked about in secondary sources. (In case you're not already aware, I'll point out now that the colored text links to other pages, in this case policies & guidelines that might help you. :)) You can use primary sources to add details, but not to establish notability.


 * If you are able to assemble necessary sources to assert notability, you may certainly create such an article, although if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends that you do not create or edit the article yourself, but instead consider proposing its creation at requested articles or at a related article or relevant WikiProject, like Wikiproject Television. If you do choose to write the article in such a case, you'll want to be particularly careful to approach it neutrally and without undue promotion. If you wish to create the article, you will either need to register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles, or post it at Articles for creation, where other editors will review it to be sure it meets policies and, if so, create it for you.


 * Before establishing the article, please search Wikipedia to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Help:Starting a new page should give you all the guidance you need, but you might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article. Please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. You'd probably particularly want to take a look at "how to write about television programs", which addresses style concerns, includes an infobox you can use and also reinforces the need to demonstrate notability. Good luck, and happy editing. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:15, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Haynes v. U.S.
Haynes v. U.S. was a landmark SCOTUS decision which essentially exempted felons and other prohibited possessors from gun registration. There are articles here on Roe v. Wade and other landmark decisions, so I think this one should be included as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.240.24.168 (talk) 22:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi. It seems like you're probably right. :) Establishing such an article shouldn't be too hard. As per usual, you'll want to find secondary sources to verify notability—established sources talking about its history and its impact. It needs to be neutral, though the article can of course document any controversies connected to the decision. You'll want to avoid original research, making sure that everything you write in the article is attributable.


 * If you wish to create the article, you will either need to register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles, or post it at Articles for creation, where other editors will review it to be sure it meets policies and, if so, create it for you.


 * Before establishing the article, please search Wikipedia to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject, perhaps in a related name. I don't know who the "Haynes" is, for instance, but you might check to see if it's included in a biography of him. :) Help:Starting a new page should give you all the guidance you need, but you might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article. Please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Good luck, and happy editing. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:03, 28 February 2008 (UTC)