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Article On Econ Engineering
I would like to include an article into wikipedia on Econ Engineering Ltd, they are currently the UK's largest manufacturer of gritters, the company has been established for over 40 years and has a history rooted in the agricultural machinery sector. With the company been established for as long as it has and still been family owned and manufacturing in the uk which is an increasingly rare thing I belive it would be notable enough to add to the wiki but would like opinions and possible help to write the entry. Tench1970 (talk) 16:10, 28 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Have they ever had a newspaper or magazine article, or achieve a page written about them in a book?. That would demonstrate notability.  You can start work at User:Tench1970/Econ Engineering and find some web links and newspaper articles to note down, and also add the long history. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:18, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Usage
The Shark Steam Mop is an electrically powered steam mop. According to the manufacturer's instructions for use, one must place water into the reservoir, attach the machine-washable pad to the bottom of the mop, plug the mop into an electrical outlet, and wait for steam to appear.

I am pretty new here and not an editor, but I have spent the better part of this week reading through the extensive guidelines concerning writing new articles. The one in particular which would benefit you is Notability which specifically deals with whether a subject warrants its own page. Based on what you wrote here, I would say no. Unless it has appeared in a couple magazine or newspaper articles (not advertisement). Was there a massive recall of this product due to the defects you mentioned (like the recent Toyota gas pedal fiasco?). Was someone killed using this product? Was it a overnight success turning its inventor from a backwoods farmer to a millionaire? Then it probably doesn't deserve its own page. Just my take. Also your sources need to be third party, not from the vendor themselves or one of their ads. Saintlouieb (talk) 23:40, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Standards Advisory Council ( SAC )
I have recently joined ACCA. And in the book of Financial Accounting, in chapter no. 2, The Regulatory Framework, Standards Advisory Council ( SAC ) has been discussed. I tried to find some thing more in detail here at Wikipedia, but nothing found.

I realise that the information given in the text would be quite enough the level i am in, but for the reference and more detail people like me can come here and search it out.

Kindly someone will paste some information about " Standards Advisory Council "...

Best Regards,

Waqaroptimist (talk) 08:15, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


 * It looks like you are asking for an article to be created. But perhaps instead you can create an article using your text book as a reference by clicking on Standards Advisory Council.  Make sure you write it in your own words.  Otherwise you can ask at WP:Requested articles. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:04, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

i'm not sure how to make a whole new article about something nobody answered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Santakiki (talk • contribs) 21:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

100% Records
Hi all,

I am looking for help writing my first article, I have tried 3 times now to put a page up on a record label called 100% records. I am obviously making it sound like a marketing ploy or something! After being deleted for the second time, I created a page in what I thought was a kind of draft section of my userpage. I saved the draft, assuming that was all it was, then the next time I came back i couldn't A) find what I'd saved and B)found it had been immediately deleted! I thought you surely couldn't have stuff deleted until you perhaps tried to publish it?!

Anyway, I am now literally just looking for help. I would have given up by now had it not been for the existance of other small record label's wikipedia pages. I know it must be possible but I'm not sure how to do it!

The content is basically along these lines:

100% Records is a London based independent record label and product management business founded by Toby Harris, formerly of Back Yard Recordings. 100% are currently working with Moby, Placebo, The Temper Trap and currently releasing the new studio album by UK beatboxer Killa Kela "Amplified!"

100% initially dealt purely with product management and distribution (both UK and Internationally) of the aforementioned artists album releases but then began signing artists with a view to becoming a fully fledged independent record label. The label attracts previously signed artists with an established following and are offered more favourable terms in return.

Music Week have recently featured an article announcing 100% Records modern way of running a record label.

Affiliated Artists

Moby Placebo The Temper Trap
 * Killa Kela

External Links


 * http://www.100-percent.co.uk/

--Jackrecords (talk) 13:27, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


 * User space drafts can be deleted if they are in violation of WP:SPAM or are copyright violations, so I suspect someone thought the draft was too promotional. As regards the above draft (I removed the heading code so that it does not throw off the formatting of this page) you will need more than one source to establish notability per WP:CORP. Notability requires significant coverage in reliable sources. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 16:00, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


 * The 100% Records article was created by who seems to have created no user space drafts.  Jackrecords has not made any user space drafts either. Do you remember which user you were logged on as?  Any way the clue to getting the article staying around is to say something important that the company has done, and add at least two links to independent things.  That Music Week article would been a 50% start on that.  The deleted articles say almost nothing, that is no claim to importance.  At least now in what you posted here you have mentioned some artists that are signed up. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:16, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I will add that the article was deleted exceptionally speedily, created and deleted twice in the space of 7 minutes. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it does seem that this is the most complicated website in the entire world to work?! I literally cannot get to grips with it. I thought I had now created a userspace draft of this page? Can anyone confirm this for me? We also now have a couple of magazine articles that cite our artists as being signed to us and I have included/will include them. I read somewhere that before the page can become a proper article, I have to have it as a userspace draft for 4 days and edit the page 10 times? is this accurate? I also don't understand that when I create a userspace draft and save it, when you go back to the userspace area, it's not listed anywhere at all, as in you can't go back to find it to edit what you've done before? As you can tell I'm a complete amateur at this but I'm just trying to stick to all the rules so I can get the article properly published on wikipedia. HELP!Jackrecords (talk) 11:05, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


 * After that time and number of edits you become autoconfirmed, and can move your article to a new name. Well by now there is 100% Records and User:Jackrecords/100% Records Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:04, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Lela and Raymond Howard
I have been reading and editing on Wikipedia for years and now I think I am ready for that next big step, I want to write my first article!

Like the subject implies I want to write an article about Lela and Raymond Howard. You may remember those names. I think they are notable for the following reasons:

1. They came to national media attention when they disappeared in 1997 when on a 15 mile trip in Salado, TX. They were stopped twice by AK police approx. 350 miles away. Many speculated that they just packed up and left it all behind.

2. When they were found deceased two weeks later, it sparked a debate on whether there should be laws in place regarding senior citizens on the road in order to protect them and the general public.

3. The chart-topping song The Way (song) from Fastball (band) was based on their disappearance. Lead singer Tony Scalzo read about the disappearance and wrote the song (before he found out that they died).

There are brief mentions of this story in both The Way and Fastball's pages, but I think there is more of this story to be told. I want to write about both of them on the same page (like Bonnie and Clyde) to include a biography section, a disappearance and death Section, and an aftermath section where I will briefly (and nuetrally) discuss the senior driving debate.

I have many more references, all newspaper articles, but these are what I used for this write up:

Please let me know what you think! Saintlouieb (talk) 20:55, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * It sounds to me as if you have enough sources to prove notability. SO the topic sounds suitable.  Iam not so sure what the article should be called though. Lela and Raymond Howard could be possible, but redirects from Lela Howard  and Raymond Howard should be made as well. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I think the title Lela and Raymond Howard is the most appropriate, since that is what someone is most likely to type when they are searching for them. The redirect for Lela should be easy enough, but there is already a page for Raymond Howard for a different person. Should I make a disambiguation page or do a redirect on the exiting Raymond Howard page? Saintlouieb (talk) 18:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


 * A WP:hatnote on Raymond Howard should be enough. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)