Wikipedia:Edit filter noticeboard

Set 491 to disallow
I think 491 end ! To disallow 128.234.101.4 (talk) 10:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't be against it, though warn seems to already be working fairly well. Basically, I see the technical accuracy, but not the necessity of setting it to disallow. EggRoll97 (talk) 20:36, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I would support disallow in this case, as it seems to be doing its job pretty well and we want this junk out of our articles. –  Pharyngeal Implosive7  (talk)  01:15, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Edit filter helper for Codename Noreste (third nomination)




Hello, everyone. This has been a few months after my failed nomination back in February, but after I have addressed your concerns seriously, I am requesting the edit filter helper right again. But this time, I now intend to assist with writing filters using my basic knowledge of regular expressions.

I have proposed additions to filter (implemented by  via email), and I have written and requested updates on  (a global filter that tracks 1292's target was implemented on Meta as 344 (Meta admins only)) and  (both filters are maintained by  except the global filter, in which that global filter is maintained by  on Meta), and. Given these filters' sensitive detection strategies, I do not intend to discuss their details on public or outside of the edit filter mailing list.

With respect to account security and nonpublic information, I use a strong password and have 2FA enabled on my main account, and I have signed the confidentiality agreement for nonpublic information (verify).

Thank you for your consideration. Codename Noreste 🤔  Talk  03:48, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Strong support – I've worked with Codename Noreste pretty much ever since I became an admin on Meta and his work on edit filters is priceless. He's also very proactive on maintenance, which is critical for EFH. --SHB2000 (talk) 04:13, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support I have seen their impressive work in this area and had conversations with them on Discord, where they showed strong regex skills. I trust them with EFH. – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:16, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support Seems fine, and I've seen them around working with filters a lot. EggRoll97 (talk) 15:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support - Seems to be a good fit for this role. –  Pharyngeal Implosive7  (talk)  22:31, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. Happy to see this. I've already been sharing a few private filters with Codename Noreste, and fully trust him with this right. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 22:42, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The earliest closure has started. Would an admin grant the right? –  Pharyngeal Implosive7  (talk)  04:53, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Edit filter 53
I'm just sending an FYI that one of my updates to this filter accidentally added a | at the very end of one of the string variables (it causes ALL edits to be flagged as a hit). It was caught and fixed two minutes later. Any false positive notifications regarding this filter can be closed as 'resolved'.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)


 * And that, fellow users, is why EFMs are recommended to test their updates thoroughly before implementing said updates to any filter. There is the test interface in which admins, edit filter helpers and managers can access, or there's User:Suffusion of Yellow/batchtest-plus but you still need the same permissions to access that interface, just so that you can also use that script. Codename Noreste  🤔  Talk  16:55, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Perhaps if it weren't for my sudden curiosity about such edit filters, this could have gone unnoticed.102.159.221.21 (talk) 04:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

EFH nomination for PharyngealImplosive7 (second nomination)

 * Link to my previous nomination (withdrawn).
 * Pinging the admin who closed the last nomination: @0xDeadbeef.
 * Pinging the admin who closed the last nomination: @0xDeadbeef.



Hello everyone. Back in February, I had my last self-nom for EFH. I was relatively new in general, and even newer to the edit filter space. As I've reflected on that failed nomination, I've tried to take in to account your feedback and I think that now I have a much more solid nomination.

First of all, I have made about ~1100 edits to WP:EFFPR, and have tried to be as cautious as possible while clerking all reports, private and not. (as can be seen on xtools: ). I also have made numerous contributions to filters, such as helping to create the private filter (courtesy ping to @Codename Noreste to our conversation over email, before he sent the code we made together to the mailing list for further improvements), as well as the public filter. I also helped create some regex for the private filter (to enforce WP:DADASAHEB). I've also made quite a few minor improvements to filters, , and a few others, but they all help catch unwanted edits that wouldn't have been otherwise. I believe that these examples can show that I have enough experience in regex that I can help author filters on this wiki.

I know the responsibility of this user right and know the sensitivity of private filters. As a result, if I gain this permission, I will only discuss information about private filters on the mailing list. I also care a lot about security, and although I don't have 2FA enabled, I do have a strong password, so I think that is highly unlikely that my account will be compromised. I also have signed the access to nonpublic information agreement (verify).

I thank everyone for their participation and feedback last time, as it helped me get a better sense for the gravity of this permission. Thank you in advance. –  Pharyngeal Implosive7  (talk)  23:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

 * Support as last time, trusted and competent editor. – DreamRimmer (talk) 15:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No objections here unlike last time, and you would be a good fit for this high-trust role. Codename Noreste  🤔  Talk  16:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

 * Oppose I've read over your work, but I'm also not really seeing the need either. Your hit on the mailing list wasn't bad, but ultimately the filter Codename Noreste proposed was fleshed out, while your proposal (at least as seen in the mailing list) was a single line of regex. At the current time, I'm not seeing the need. I wasn't sure whether I should chime in, but frankly 0xDeadbeef's neutral has swayed me away enough from neutrality to chime in here. EggRoll97 (talk) 21:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand your point of view. If I may, could I send you an email with some RegEx showing a more concrete understanding? It's a meta LTA filter that I added more sophisticated lines of code. –  Pharyngeal Implosive7  (talk)  21:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * And its sent. –  Pharyngeal Implosive7  (talk)  21:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * In the interest of transparency, I disclose on-wiki that I have received your email, which contains the contents described in the above comment, and have read such email. As for my response, since it doesn't contain any sensitive information, that filter is a meta-wiki filter, and doesn't necessarily show work towards enwiki's filters. I'm sure it would be great if you were running for Meta adminship, or GAFH, but I should have been clearer. I was moreso referring to your work with edit filters on enwiki, not necessarily on Meta. EggRoll97 (talk) 03:24, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Neutral

 * Not seeing the need so far, sadly. Some concrete examples of substantial involvement with regex/edit filter code would help my confidence, but the single hit in the mailing list doesn't say much. 0x Deadbeef →∞ (talk to me) 12:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Just sent you an email about I private filter I'm in the process of creating with the help of Codename Noreste. –  Pharyngeal Implosive7  (talk)  17:14, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Mind if you forward it to my email as well? Codename Noreste  🤔  Talk  18:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It is the same meta filter we worked on yesterday. –  Pharyngeal Implosive7  (talk)  18:29, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, never mind; it was already implemented on Meta. I also requested access to join the private filter mailing list, awaiting subscription approval. Codename Noreste  🤔  Talk  18:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Just curious and also trying to be as vague as possible, but was it implemented with or without my changes? –  Pharyngeal Implosive7  (talk)  19:38, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * With. Codename Noreste  🤔  Talk  20:12, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Discussion
If so, please explain them in a non-beansy manner. Thank you. Codename Noreste 🤔  Talk  00:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Questions:, aside from 1313, I have a couple of questions for you:
 * 1) Have you sent private filter regex updates to the mailing list or to an EFM?
 * 2) Do you intend to create a private filter that you can send to an EFM or to the mailing list?


 * 1. No. I have not besides for 1313. I only helped create thee other private filter I worked on, 1161. However, I do plan to do so in the future.
 * 2. Yes in fact! I have a few ideas kicking around in my head, but my most developed one is for BBB. –  Pharyngeal Implosive7  (talk)  00:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * There are already some filters trying to track what you said in number 2, and that's all what I'm allowed to say in public. Codename Noreste  🤔  Talk  16:53, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks for letting me know. –  Pharyngeal Implosive7  (talk)  17:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * If you're willing to share, is there any specific reason you don't have 2FA enabled? While it's not a requirement for EFH (and isn't a formal requirement outside of interface admins), I'm curious to know if there's a reason, or if it's just that you haven't necessarily turned it on (I'm aware it's not available unless a steward activates the global group). EggRoll97 (talk) 18:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I just haven't turned it on, because I haven't asked a steward yet to enable it. I don't really have a specific reason besides that I haven't done it yet, though if I get sesnitive perms like this one, I'll think about enabling it. –  Pharyngeal Implosive7  (talk)  18:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I am counting at least two supports, one neutral and one objection -- would an uninvolved administrator close this discussion please? Codename Noreste  🤔  Talk  16:06, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Page protection
I protected Edit filter/False positives/Reports for 1 day 3 hours due to persistent vandalism from multiple accounts. and other administrators, please feel free to lift the protection earlier at your discretion. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Good protection, but it looks like these diffs (Special:Diff/1233248166, Special:Diff/1233232866, Special:Diff/1233232682, and others with more than 100,000 text bytes added) will need to be revision-deleted because of disruptive Zalgo text. Codename Noreste  🤔  Talk  03:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Done. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 04:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Would any EFM take a look at the mailing list right now?
Obviously, one of the private filters whose conditions and hits I am not liking about; it's extremely sensitive obviously, in which the less is said, the better. Check the mailing list because of my request and comments. Codename Noreste 🤔  Talk  22:20, 20 July 2024 (UTC)