Wikipedia:Editor review/DoomsDay349 2

User:DoomsDay349
I was reviewed a few months back, but now that I've come out of the Esperanza MFDs, I've changed substantially. I have definitely become a deletionist, I won't deny that, and I feel I have a much better understanding of policy and Wikipedia in general. I want to know what everyone thinks of me in this newer stage.  Dooms Day349  23:14, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

 Reviews 

Okay I am sure you know what the royal review is, here is my review. I always review from a standpoint that assumes that you are willing to undergo an RFA and try to become an admin. Anything said in this review is from my standpoint and does not necessarily reflect the community consensus. Okay here it goes




 * Total editcount: 3,813, this is a nice total, the expected total is usually around 3,000 and you obviously surpass it, I would recommend waiting until about 5,000 edits for an RFA basically due to it shows a good amount of time and etc. I will now break down the "main namespaces".
 * Mainspace:Okay lets see here, looks like a pretty good total, I personally like seeing high mainspace counts as this is the reason why we are here in the first place, also looks like you put a good effort into the articles you edit. Keep it up, no problems as I see here. Also perusing your recent contribs I see some RC patrol which is a "huge" plus for me...keep it up.
 * Wikipedia: A little on the low side, I would recomend becoming more active in RFA's and XFD's, which I notice you have done a good job in XFd's so this shouldn't be hard, there is plenty of work that can be done on the Wikipedia side, I suggest exploring and see what you find :).
 * User talk: Pretty good, I like admins who "warn" the vandals one minute and converse with other users/admins the next. So keep that part up.
 * Civility: pertty good, but I think that it can be improved, as I have noticed you get a little hot headed in XFD's expecially when it is your nom. When a user disagrees with you don't worry to much about it. The opinions always differ and complaining about a certain vote not in your favor doesn't help. But other than that there is no "real" problems :)
 * Kindness: No probs here, you are kind of course.
 * Edit summerys: Good you appear to use them all the time. Make sure you always fill the edit summary with an understandable summery that anyone can understand. Great job, seriously.
 * User page: No probs here, I am not a fan of black but that doesn't matter much :)
 * Portal: Nice, keep it up, the portal space is often overlooked. Consider on working on the Dragonlance portal and getting it featured, that always helps greatly on a future RFA.
 * Other: Email is on which is great, you obviously don't have a lot of image uploads but that is okay. If you are a photographer, try uploading images of everyday things to help articles in need. sig is fine, I have no complaints.
 * :While you have some things to work out before attempting an RFA, this shouldn't be a problem for you. As I have trust in you, I think that your time period of being here with wikipedia is great there are just some "teeny little problems" to get sorted out as I said earlier. Cheers and good luck, if you have any questions about a certain part please contact me via email or on my talk. Arjun  21:00, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Other: Email is on which is great, you obviously don't have a lot of image uploads but that is okay. If you are a photographer, try uploading images of everyday things to help articles in need. sig is fine, I have no complaints.
 * :While you have some things to work out before attempting an RFA, this shouldn't be a problem for you. As I have trust in you, I think that your time period of being here with wikipedia is great there are just some "teeny little problems" to get sorted out as I said earlier. Cheers and good luck, if you have any questions about a certain part please contact me via email or on my talk. Arjun  21:00, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Review by WJBscribe (WJB talk)
 * Statistical analysis. User since May 2006. 3887 edits comprising: 1287 mainspace (33%), 719 user talk (18%), 583 talk (15%), 536 wikipedia (14%). Reasonably good spread. Wikipedia edits perhaps could do with being higher (though don't compromise keeping at about a third of your edits in the mainspace). Nice to see work at the help desk. I see you are moving from MfD voting to more general AfD. Prob a good move (and tends to be far less controversial).
 * Esperanza. Your involvement in the Esperanza MfD and related argument will get your credit in many quaters for bravery and your original arguments were strong. I personally think it was brave and well intentioned. However, it has probably also earned you a fair number of critics and I'd suggest putting a little distance between yourself and those arguments before going for an RfA.
 * Civility and AGF. I think you may have expressed yourself a little too bluntly in those MfD-related discussions. In particular I refer to:, , , . I know those debates ended up getting messy but I think it could genuine be said that you crossed the line of WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF. You let yourself get drawn into speculating in a fairly hostile way about the motives of other contributors. At the end of the day even if misguided, I think those behind Esperanza genuinely believed its existence benefited Wikipedia and I don't think it would have hurt for that to have been born in mind more. You also came on a little strong in the Sandbox Games AfD: , , . In both cases I think the intensity of the debate meant a loss of perspective. In future when you are aware that you are about to post because a previous contribution has annoyed you, may I suggest waiting a while first and doing something unrelated? I find a bit of copyediting or RC patroling good to clear the head and makes it easier to decide if (a) a response is really needed and (b) how to best express myself without risking regretting my phrasing later. Being involved in less contentious matters for a while may also help distance you from these unfortunate difs.
 * Deletionism. I'm not very keen on people describing themselves in this way. To me when someone 'votes' in XfDs they do so almost as a judge and so should avoid the appearance of bias. Giving the impression that you come to an XfD already minded to delete undermines your contributions. The term is also open to misinterpretation and can read as "I enjoy deleting content". Given that anything that is deleted is the work of one or more user, I think their contributions deserve more than that. By all means express a strong view that pages in violation of policy or that undermine Wikipedia should be deleted, but I personally dislike making any suggestion that one is generally minded to delete content.
 * Mainspace. Good number of edits that look good. I confess I know nothing about the topics you specialise in so can't really assess the strength of those edits. However, they read well and describe the topics clearly to me as someone who knew nothing of them before reading them. I particularly liked Dragons of Autumn Twilight. The topics seem to lend themselves to a number of smaller articles but it might be worth focusing your attention on some of the main ones and getting some GAs (or indeed FAs). Although I disagree and think spread of edits can be just as helpful as intensive work on a very few articles, the community tends to judge mainspace contribs by those accolades. Good luck with GA etc.
 * Anti vandal work. Great contributions here. I'd suggest making the type of warning more specific in the edit summary but that's not a major thing. Prob a good distraction from more controversial editing.
 * Sig. I know it doesn't seem important but our sigs prob have quite an effect on how tohers perceive us here. Yours is a good choice- stands out when looking for it on talkpages but not over-elaborate. And contains seperate link to your talk page which I find really helpful.
 * Fair use in portals. This is the main policy area you seem to have contributed to discussions of. I think you are absolutely right in your opposition to those proposals (both as a Wikipedian and a lawyer with a masters degree partly in copyright law). You make good arguments throughout and reasonably encourage further discussion rather than a premature close of the discussion. I'm not so sure about: . It seems to me that if it isn't necessary, it must be a bad idea. The use of the picture being necessary seems an essential element of a fair use claim. My thoughts on that aside, I think you would do yourself considerable good to involve yourself in other discussion on new policies/proposed policy revisions in the way you participated on that talk page.
 * To summarise the above (which is more lengthy than I intended- I hope you appreciate thoroughness) I think your a great editor who has contributed well to Wikipedia, particularly in the mainspace and with vandalism work. I do think you have allowed yourself to get distracted by the Esperanza debates but I think you recent take up of WP:FUCK shows an intention to move away from that. I hope you don't intend to stop caring altogether about everything Wiki, but taking a step back from those controversies seems healthy. Both for you enjoying contributing to Wiki and for not attracting too much negative attention from members of the Community you rub the wrong way by diving into those. I caution against going down the deletionist path. All in all I wish you well and look forward to seeing you around. I also hope in due course to be able to support an RfA from you. WJBscribe (WJB talk) 06:32, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) Of your contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
 * As last time, I am of course proud of all my Dragonlance work. Currently, however, I am proud of what I have done to stop what I believe the corrupt Esperanza organization, and I am also proud of the vandalism reversion and the AFDs I have done.
 * 1) Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
 * Well, as last time, there was an incident with Kranar Drogin, but we're far past that and are now working together and know each other better thanks to off-wiki conversing. Then of course the first Esperanza MFD gave way to a huge conflict between me and User:Elaragirl, but I think that's over and we are, if I might say so myself, tentative friends.
 * Well, as last time, there was an incident with Kranar Drogin, but we're far past that and are now working together and know each other better thanks to off-wiki conversing. Then of course the first Esperanza MFD gave way to a huge conflict between me and User:Elaragirl, but I think that's over and we are, if I might say so myself, tentative friends.