Wikipedia:Editor review/Gears of War


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Gears of War
I have been on wikipedia and artibuted a goo amount, proving that I can be trusted. But then suddenly, I noticed that most of my edits were being undone and most of my pages have been deleted. But then I thought"Well I have done some good contribs" but then again why are they being reverted. I am working on many things at once and I really want to know if I have been doing the right things on wikipedia. Gears  Of War  13:44, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

 Reviews 
 * Seems like you do a lot of edits on video game articles and the Grey Griffins (series). While those are great edits, you should involve yourself more in AfD's, FLC's, FAC's, and GAN's, being involved in these discussions will help you become a better user, and you can learn the basis of good articles. Also I noticed your edit count, you need to use your Edit Summary more often, as it is helpful to read about your edit. Regards.-- ~    S    R    S    ~   03:26, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Review by Guyinblack25 talk
 * Regarding the reverts and deletions of your contributions, I believe they are simply part of the steep learning curve on Wikipedia. Even though anybody can edit Wikipedia and is encouraged to do so, actually editing here is not the easiest thing to do. I believe your heart is in the right place; you want to improve Wikipedia. But you simply lack the experience and knowledge of common practices and policies. In your defense, there are a good number of them, many of which can be complicated and confusing. I know I didn't have a good grasp of them when I first started out, and I'm still in the dark about some things.
 * Truco's suggestion to involve yourself in various types of discussions is a good one that'll give you a broader view of what is required to successfully edit on Wikipedia. You'll see which policies are applied to what circumstances and develop a better sense of what type of edits articles require to climb the quality scale. Another avenue to pursue is Peer review. They are less formal than WP:GAN and WP:FAC, but operate in a similar way by reviewing an article and providing suggestions to improve it.
 * If you are unsure about whether an edit will be constructive or not, you can also start a discussion on the article's talk page and get feedback from other edits. This way you can modify your edit before it is even made. Leaving a note on the talk page is also good practice because it involves like-minded editors and is a polite way to initiate collaboration. (Guyinblack25 talk 14:32, 5 May 2008 (UTC))


 * I haven't personally dealt with this editor a lot, until now. He had an outburst, due to this: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games,he attacked the project, as well as KieferSkunk due to the discussion being closed. He also went ahead and made this: User:Gears_of_War/Anti-WPVG. I personally feel he needs to read up on policies, and relax at times... instead of going into full-attack mode when a discussion is closed. RobJ1981 (talk) 01:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Quick comment: This particular incident has been resolved to my satisfaction, and I believe GoW is ready and willing to move on from this incident with some lessons learned. More in my own review. &mdash; KieferSkunk (talk) &mdash; 15:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Review by &mdash; KieferSkunk (talk) &mdash;
 * Gears of War is, in my opinion, a spirited young editor who has overall a good command of the WP editing tools and many of the article-based guidelines. He is relatively new to the Video Games project, and as such started off as many editors do (including myself): By adding a number of new articles, making significant edits to existing ones, and making lots of suggestions and requests in WT:VG (some of which may be off-topic).  This is not a problem, per se - it's to be expected, and it is something that I think more experienced (more "seasoned") regular editors should be mindful and tolerant of, perhaps more so than we tend to be sometimes.  (I am including myself in this statement.)
 * I've reviewed a number of GoW's edits and think that the general quality of his work is good, but maybe a little misdirected. Moreover, though, the incident that RobJ1981 referred to is an example of how I think GoW may tend to take things too personally at times, such as criticisms of his edits or being told that he's stepping outside the bounds of WP policy.  After he took some time to calm down, GoW apologized for the outburst and agreed to work constructively with me and other VGProj members, and the situation has been resolved to my satisfaction.  I think that the resolution of this issue shows that GoW is definitely willing to learn how the community works - this is refreshing to see.  Additionally, I've asked GoW to trust me to the extent that if/when I criticize something he does, I am criticizing the behavior, and not him personally.  In other words, I will always mean "This action is not constructive / misguided / against policy or consensus / etc.", not "You are a bad person", and I will try to include suggestions on how to improve or avoid the action in the future.  He has agreed to this.
 * Following up on an off-wiki suggestion by another editor, I've recommended that GoW seek out a mentor in the VGProj, as this person could work more closely with him to "show him the ropes", as it were. I respectfully declined the role myself because I don't have the time or energy to devote to this at the moment.
 * In closing, I think GoW is a good editor with a lot of potential, and I fully believe that (except in situations like the aforementioned incident) he edits in good faith. With time, I think he'll develop a thicker skin for criticism.  I know that one of GoW's aspirations is to become an administrator, and I don't believe this is out of the question by any means.  I do think it will take some time, and that GoW has much to learn, but I've encouraged him to not let the above incident get him down.  Once he has shown that he can handle stressful situations gracefully and not let people get under his skin, nothing more will need to be said about it. &mdash; KieferSkunk (talk) &mdash; 15:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

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 * 1) Of your contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
 * I think one of my BEST edits of wikipedia was my edits of Grey Griffins (series) article. I have done a HUGE amount to this article and have risen it from a stub class to a B class. I am still working ever so tire lessly to move it to GA class. 
 * 1) Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
 * I have had a couple of conflicts here and there. One was the conflict I had with Metros. I had created an article here, I was still a new editor and had created many articles. I believed that Metros was just bullying me and I got very angry with him. I reacted immarturaly and then cut off all discusions with Metros. Later I came back and apologized and I went back to editing. Then I had a tiny issue with Orangmike at here and here. I asked Orangemike about advice for an article and suprised me with the fact that all the article of the Grey Griffins series should be deleted. I simply asked him why and then fought for the article's rights on wikipedia. Then there was the conflict I had with another user. Check it out here: here, here and here. I thought this user was contributing to vandalism and I went about it the wrong way, we settled it by deciding that we should always stick together.
 * I have had a couple of conflicts here and there. One was the conflict I had with Metros. I had created an article here, I was still a new editor and had created many articles. I believed that Metros was just bullying me and I got very angry with him. I reacted immarturaly and then cut off all discusions with Metros. Later I came back and apologized and I went back to editing. Then I had a tiny issue with Orangmike at here and here. I asked Orangemike about advice for an article and suprised me with the fact that all the article of the Grey Griffins series should be deleted. I simply asked him why and then fought for the article's rights on wikipedia. Then there was the conflict I had with another user. Check it out here: here, here and here. I thought this user was contributing to vandalism and I went about it the wrong way, we settled it by deciding that we should always stick together.