Wikipedia:Editor review/Tyw7 (3)

Tyw7
Hi. I am User Tyw7. I have been previously editing as. I have made over 268 minor edits and major on Wikipedia as both Tyw7 and Troop350. I just wanted a quck review of how other users think about me. Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 21:48, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

 Reviews 
 * Hi Tyw7. Firstly, apologies for the fact that you've had to wait almost 3 months for a review! Hopefully the back log will get worked on. Anyway, on to my review...
 * I will start off by saying that I'm disappointed with your answer to question 1. Although you do not specifically say so, you give the impression that you were responsible for the two articles achieving Good Article status, and I was looking forward to seeing how you helped get it to that status, as I have a couple of articles that I would like to get to GA!
 * Having looked in detail at both of these article's history (plus that of User:TechOutsider/Sandbox), I see that on the Norton 360 article, you made 5 minor edits (1 removing a sentence, 4 changing the publisher in citations) in the week before it made GA status - the main editor responsible for getting that article to GA was TechOutsider. With the Norton Internet Security article, you made 42 edits. None of these were 'major' - changing image names, adding images, changing image sizes, etc. 17 of those edits were made before it got GA, the rest since. Again, the reason why that article achieved GA was that TechOutsider did a lot of very good work on the article. Don't get me wrong, your work was good, but in no sense would your edits have ensured that these two articles achieved GA. (incidently, the 5 edits you made on TechOutsider's Sandbox were also minor on the whole).
 * Looking at your talk page, the first thing that struck me was the warning saying "Vandals do not vandalize this page! This page is always being monitored. If you vandalize this page, your account will get blocked." - firstly, the page may be vandalised without being noticed by anyone, even if a lot of people are on vandalism patrol; secondly, if someone vandalizes the page, they may not get blocked - if for example it is the first time they've vandalised and it's a minor thing. The problem with your message is twofold: firstly, if someone vandalises it and then aren't blocked, they'll think it's OK to continue (and get warnings); secondly, you are inviting people to vandalise it, to try it out!
 * Also from your talk page, looking at User talk:Tyw7, you seem to be indicating to another editor that you can get another editor blocked. I couldn't find where you said that specifically, but you need to be careful not to misrepresent yourself. In this kind of case, you need to (from the beginning) make it clear that you are not an admin, but that if the other editor wants you to put the case to an admin, you are happy to do that for them.
 * Still on your talk page (and archives of same) - my one main bit of advice would be to listen to the advice given! You were told you weren't ready for RfAs, but went ahead a couple of times after being told to get 2-3000 edits and get involved in XfDs etc. The Mr Unsigned Anon entries in the archive shows that you are not ready for dealing with those kinds of conflicts on-wiki. You are young, and eager to help - but sometimes the best thing to do is leave well alone!
 * Now to your edits: firstly, please try to put something in the edit summary explaining what you are doing. If it helps, in my preferences there is an option that will alert you if you forget! I have it set on, even though I normally remember anyway, just to be sure!
 * The work you've done on Docklands Light Railway rolling stock is good - but again, the vast majority of those edits are minor!
 * The main problem that I see with your edits is that only about 17% of them are on articles and article talk pages. 56% of them are on User pages and User talk pages. At the end of the day, most edits should be for the encyclopedia - some people would say my figures are skewed (53% on articles and article talk; 35% on user and user talk) - but for someone who is wanting to be an admin to have less than 1/5 of their edits on the encylopedia, most editors at an RfA would be concerned (unless a lot of the non-article edits were on xfDs and the like).
 * Positives This sounds gloomy - but it's not all bad. You have an enthusiasm for Wikipedia! You are young enough to be able to improve yourself, and have a desire to work on the project. This should be enough to overcome any perceived flaws.


 * Overall advice:


 * 1) Use edit summaries (turn on the option in my preferences)
 * 2) Do more work on articles
 * 3) Do not think about another RfA for at least several months (and when you do, by all means mentions the Norton articles if you feel they are indicative of your best work - but do not imply that they got GA status because of you - that got you at least one 'oppose' on one of your RfAs.
 * 4) Do not think about another RfA for at least several months (yes, I'm repeating myself - I think it's important). Before even considering going for it, read the comments made at your 5 RfAs (1, 2, 3, 4 and, 5) and the advice you were given on your talk page (and now in the archive) about them; thoroughly read Guide to requests for adminship; look at Successful requests for adminship - see why the current admins got approved by the community. Most of all - remember that adminship is No big deal!
 * 5) Re-read your last 2 reviews: Editor review/Tyw7 and Editor review/Tyw7 (2)


 * I hope you do not feel that I have been too harsh. I thought carefully before putting my comments here - I have spent about 2-1/2 hours looking through your contributions, talk page, RfAs, etc - my comments here are not meant to put you down - but to show you how you can improve. Other editors may leave a different opinion here. Overall, my advice would be to forget about adminship for a while, and enjoy editing! That's why we're all here, after all. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to put them here or on my talk page. Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 20:42, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

 Questions


 * 1) What are your primary contributions to Wikipedia? Are there any about which you are particularly pleased? Why?
 * My best contributions to Wikipedia I have to say are the articles Norton 360 and Norton Internet Security, particularly Norton 360. This is because both of these articles are now listed as Good Articles. In addition, I have made many edits so I consider all my work good contribution to Wikipedia. I am currently working on Docklands Light Railway rolling stock
 * 1) Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
 * I have so far not encounter any edit conflits with other users. The only users I have edit conflict is with myself. For example, I was editing two pages and on one of the pages require me to login. When I did that, when I tried to save the page I edited with an anonymous IP, I have an edit conflict with my logged on account and my anonymous IP account. Therefore, I can say I have not have any edit conflicts with other users. When I encounter any edit conflicts with another user, I would cancel my edit. Then I would consider both sides and solve the conflict calmly. I would consider the information that user wishes to add to Wikipedia.''
 * 1) Conflicts over editing are not the same as . Have other users disagreed with your edits in the past, or have you disagreed with the edits of others.  How have you dealt with it?--Elen of the Roads (talk) 15:57, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * So far no one has disagreed with my edits. I would deal these conflits the same way as I deal with a edit conflit.  I would leave a msg on that editor's talk page and try to resolve the conflict peacefully.
 * 1) Conflicts over editing are not the same as . Have other users disagreed with your edits in the past, or have you disagreed with the edits of others.  How have you dealt with it?--Elen of the Roads (talk) 15:57, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * So far no one has disagreed with my edits. I would deal these conflits the same way as I deal with a edit conflit.  I would leave a msg on that editor's talk page and try to resolve the conflict peacefully.


 * I must say, you've been fortunate. I note (I hope you don't think I'm cheeky) that you have had several RfAs, in which "lack of experience" seemed to count against you.  If you wanted to try again, I can recommend volunteering over at Wikiquette Alerts for a few weeks.  No one will ever be able to say again that you lack experience in dealing with stressful editors.Elen of the Roads (talk) 19:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)