Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Noble gases

Noble gases
'''Note: the FARC on helium has closed with keep. Nergaal (talk) 09:11, 5 August 2008 (UTC)'''

This nomination is supported by WikiProject Elements (i.e. user:mav, user:Cryptic C62, other past members) and various members (user:Gary King, user:Itub) have helped besides me, including some outside the project. I think it is an important topic, and should be well put together. Also, the main article is currently undergoing a FAC, and one that will be successful, the other articles will be improved further and submitted to FAC too. Nergaal (talk) 18:07, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Co-nomination Why am I not mentioned here (since this was taken from my own "Goals" page...)? :| Anyways, I put a lot of work into Noble gas, helped it get to Good Article status, and it is currently at FAC. Radon just got to Good Article status, so this should be all set to go. Gary King ( talk ) 21:22, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There is also a FARC for helium, but at a quick look it doesn't look like it concerns with major issues. Nergaal (talk) 22:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Err, I disagree. Verifiability is a pretty major concern. The Helium FAR should preclude this FTC from happening, especially since Helium was never given GA status which it could fall back on now. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 01:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I suggest we wait until the processes for helium and noble gas are over. I expect that both will pass, but why's the hurry? --Itub (talk) 06:09, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - it doesn't matter what happens with Noble gas as the topic will meet the criteria whatever happens there, but you guys should have waited until Helium's FARC is over - rst20xx (talk) 21:08, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm confused, how will this meet the criteria regardless? If Helium is not FA, it will be made a B-class, so the topic will not be ready until it is improved to GA status... Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:53, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I said it doesn't matter what happens with Noble gas. It definitely matters what happens with Helium! Which is why I opposed. Re-read what I wrote, it's in response to what Itub wrote above me - rst20xx (talk) 21:49, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The Helium FAR is being worked on. It can sometimes take up to three months for an article to go through FAR, and I don't think this topic's nominators want to wait that long. Gary King ( talk ) 18:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not really a matter of what the nominators want to do - it's a matter of the criteria. Nousernamesleft (talk) 20:45, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Nomination at this point was premature: WP:FT? says: "To avoid wasting time, the topic should not have any active Good article nominations, Good article reassessments, Featured article reviews, Featured article removal candidates, Featured list candidates, or Featured list removal candidates when nominated for featured topic, and should only have Featured article candidates if the result does not affect whether the topic meets the featured topic criteria. Please have all required processes done before nominating." Let's just wait. --Itub (talk) 07:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * This cannot be passed with an active FARC, so our choices are to keep this nomination open until the FARC is over, or to close this and re-nominate it later. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 15:58, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The issues in the FARC should be close to be done, which means the FARC should close fairly soon. I think keeping this FTC open for a bit more is better. Nergaal (talk) 16:26, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I would say that at the very least, the FARC is getting a lot more attention than most are, partly due to this FTC :) Gary King ( talk ) 17:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Support on condition that issues with Helium are resolved, and it passes the FAR. A very nice, tight set of articles. -- Reaper  X  06:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support - If Helium remains FA. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 01:55, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Support and while I'd like it to remain an FA, I still think these should be a featured topic if it only remains a GA... gren グレン 09:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support per Judgesurreal and Reaper_X. Also, Grenavitar, when an article is demoted from FA, it gets automatically rated B-class, not GA. --haha169 (talk) 19:34, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Conditional support per Judgesurreal, Reaper_X, and Haha169. Juliancolton Tropical  Cyclone  21:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support per the above. Good to see a bunch of vital articles in good shape. igordebraga ≠ 21:21, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Support even if Helium is delisted as FA They're all related per criteria one. It meets criteria two, and as for criteria 3, even if Helium were to be delisted, 3/8(the other articles are the 3) is 37.5%, more than the 20% threshold. Obviously per the last sentence, it would still have 2 FAs. Now if one of the GAs got delisted, then THAT would be a problem. TALKIN   PIE EATER   REVIEW ME  21:48, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If Helium is delisted, it becomes listed as B-class, not GA-class. --haha169 (talk) 16:26, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note, not quite. Since the new assessment system, FARC'd articles are now left unassessed, as the Bot can't determine if they should go to B or C class. By the way, I'm very troubled that Featured topics come up with articles at FARC, as that could encourage driveby supports on the FARC.  It seems to me that nominations for articles at FARC should be removed until the FAR closes.  14:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe so, but it could pass GA in about 2.5 seconds.  Plasticup  T / C  03:47, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Support - Main topic is featured and even if He is FARCd it seems more than good enough to quickly pass a GAN. I'd like to see more FA stars in this series though. --mav (talk) 19:57, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Support now that the helium FAR has been closed as Keep. --Itub (talk) 08:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - well done on the FARC - rst20xx (talk) 14:21, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - let this be closed a unanimous support. Zginder 2008-08-05T14:59Z (UTC)
 * Comment - What image will be used? Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There are three candidates: the TFA nomination seems to support the XeF4 one which I don't think is truly relevant; another one would be the electronic stucture which is wrong but used in intro chem books; the last one is the neon tube one, which although showes the ionised gas, at least shows what is probably the best known use of noble gases. I would go for te latter one.Nergaal (talk) 21:19, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Close with consensus to promote - The only issue that arose during this FTC was with the Helium FAR, but as this has now passed, the topic can be promoted. I too would go for the third image - rst20xx (talk) 00:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)