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The Culinary Institute of America
The Culinary Institute of America (CIA) is an American private not-for-profit college specializing in culinary and baking and pastry arts education. The CIA's primary campus is located in Hyde Park, New York, with branch campuses in St. Helena, California, San Antonio, Texas, and the Republic of Singapore. The college offers associate and bachelor's degrees, as well as continuing education for professionals in the hospitality industry and a variety of other classes and events. The college operates student-run restaurants on their three U.S. campuses. The school was founded in 1946 in New Haven, Connecticut as a vocational institute for returning veterans of World War II. With a growing student body, the school purchased a former Jesuit novitiate in Hyde Park in 1970, which remains its central campus. The school began awarding associate degrees in 1971 and bachelor's degrees in 1993. The school opened its California campus in 1995, its Texas campus in 2008, and its Singapore campus in 2010.


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This topic only includes Good Articles related to the CIA, all recently reviewed for GA criteria. This is my second Good Topic nomination, after Briarcliff Manor. ɱ (talk · vbm  · coi) 17:18, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Copia is essentially not mentioned in the main article. Nergaal (talk) 19:55, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 * That might usually be a good point, however the only thing carrying over is the building, and therefore the information about Copia as a museum would be well out of scope in the main CIA article being that it's an undeveloped sub-subcampus of the institution.
 * Once Copia is opened as a new campus, there will be aspects of its operation that will be relevant to note in the main article. ɱ  (talk · vbm  · coi) 21:20, 20 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I would agree, the Copia article almost seems like it falls outside the topic, a cursory connection at best. The fact that it might be relevant in the future is nice, but until it happens (may never happen) I don't see Copia as being part of the topic as such especiall in it's current form, which means it falls one short of the criteria.  MPJ  -DK  21:01, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Except that the CIA has already purchased and started moving into the Copia building. They've already hosted quite a few events there. ɱ  (talk) · vbm  · coi) 21:10, 27 June 2016 (UTC)


 * - that seems to be the opposite as what you stated in April when the comment was that there was not a lot of commonality between the two CIA articles and Copia. It's either in and has more detail about the topic, or it's out - cannot have it both ways.  MPJ  -DK 20:46, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
 * In April I don't even think the sale of Copia was even finalized, and the school had a limited idea of what they were going to do with it. I updated the Copia article yesterday to include that it is purchased and is going to host the Food Business School and a museum. It's already hosting events; it's virtually as much a campus of the CIA as Greystone is now, so it would be ridiculous not to include it in the CIA topic. ɱ  (talk) · vbm  · coi) 20:59, 28 June 2016 (UTC)


 * So let us not be ridiculous then, the Copia article has only a cursory mention about the CIA, general comments on future plans beyond hosting one event. It certainly does not express the fact that it is "virtually as much a campus as Greystone" from what I have read.  MPJ  -DK 22:58, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
 * This nomination has been going on for over two months with people disagreeing with Copia's inclusion into the topic. As such, I will be closing this nomination with no consensus to promote. GamerPro64  16:12, 7 July 2016 (UTC)