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Seasons of Bleach
I am nominating this topic for removal because it has now failed to meet its 2 retention periods, namely that List of Bleach episodes (season 10) should have been an FL by July 7th and List of Bleach episodes (season 11) should have had a completed PR by July 14th. Neither season has aired yet or come out on DVD in the west but the same issue did not prevent List of Bleach episodes (season 9) from attaining FL status back in January. Further, I notified Sephiroth BCR of the retention periods when they were set and got no objections (note the season 11 retention start time was subsequently pushed back until when the series started airing) - rst20xx (talk) 21:36, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: Except for a five-minute period mid-June, when he commented on a couple AfDs, it looks like Sephiroth BCR hasn't been online since late May, when his last actions were to solicit help finishing work on seasons 10 and 11. I suspect that pesky thing called Real Life has gotten in the way, and no one seems to have stepped up to fill his hole. —Quasirandom (talk) 16:43, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Just quick glancing, it seems like the season 10 article is in fairly good shape for an FLC. Lead looks good, summaries appropriate length, and everything appears reliably sourced. Maybe a quick copyedit and someone willing to take the lead on doing the FLC and it should be good to go. Season 11...not in as good a shape, but no super hideous glaring flaws, main issue is the need for sourcing and lead work. However, it is also still airing, so may be hard to do more than a PR until its done.-- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 17:00, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well season 11 only needs a PR, for now. It won't need to be FL until 3 months after it finishes airing - rst20xx (talk) 17:45, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I did a minor copyedit of season 11 so any major issues with the prose in the lead should be dealt with. 陣 内 Jinnai 22:31, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Note to nominator: some members of the relevant wikiproject have stepped up and are working on this: the peer review of s11 is under way and the s10 FLC should be ready shortly. How long do we have before this candidacy is over? —Quasirandom (talk) 14:11, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The 10th season FLC could be harder, since in the project there are not many copy-editors.Tintor2 (talk) 14:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I can look at it, if anyone feels like poking me hard enough. =) I haven't seen any of season 10 specifically, but I am keeping up with the English manga and anime release, so I *should* be able to catch any glaring errors. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 19:48, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd offer to copyedit but I haven't even been keeping up on the manga, and last read up to about where this starts, and haven't seen any of the series since S1. —Quasirandom (talk) 21:16, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd be more than happy to let this have a crack at FLC, it would be a great shame to see it removed like this - rst20xx (talk) 00:48, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Concur. Season 10 looks ready to me, from a prose standpoint. I will of course make a few tweaks, but I see no major problems. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:34, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - I see that since the 11 July there has also been a season 12 article. This means that this article needs PRing and including by the 11 October. Meanwhile, season 11 finished on the 21 July, so needs to be an FL by the 21 October - rst20xx (talk) 13:14, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Should the PR on season 12 be done even if it hasn't finished airing yet, or will the date be adjusted if it is still on-going at the time? -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 03:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It should be done even if it hasn't finished airing yet. Once it's done, that's when there'll be 3 months to get it to FL - rst20xx (talk) 07:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - is anyone actually willing to nominate the season 10 list for FLC? rst20xx (talk) 23:54, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I realise no-one knows who I am, but doesn't it have to go to good article review first? Also, doesn't Bleach Season 11 and Season 12 have to go to peer review or something? --Lightlowemon (talk) 04:57, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Season 11 has been peer reviewed. Season 12 needs to be peer reviewed by October 11, and season 11 needs to be an FL by October 21. Lists go straight to featured list and not via good article, unlike articles, so season 10 needs nominating for FLC and then guiding through that process - rst20xx (talk) 10:22, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Lightlowemon is no longer going to nominate this list for FLC. Unless someone else is willing to do this, the topic must be demoted, which seems a shame, as the article is close to featured quality - rst20xx (talk) 10:42, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I would nominate it, but some seasons still need copyedit.Tintor2 (talk) 13:11, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ahhh I see you have just nominated it. Sorry, I started to demote the topic but then spotted you did that, my mistake! I have updated the topic box above to reflect the current status - rst20xx (talk) 19:04, 6 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - once the FLC has passed, this topic will have the following retentions:
 * Seasons of Bleach has
 * until 2009-10-11 to meet criteria 1.d. and 3.c. with article List of Bleach episodes (season 12).
 * until 2009-10-21 to meet criterion 3.a. with article List of Bleach episodes (season 11).
 * From 2009-10-27, Seasons of Bleach will have 3 months to meet criterion 3.a. with article List of Bleach episodes (season 12).
 * In other words, it might be worthwhile getting season 12 PRed now as it should be included in the topic in 10 days' time. Season 11 should be an FL in 20 days as well. After that you have til January to get season 12 to FL, and I expect there'll be a season 13 needing a PR soon, and so on and so forth... :/ rst20xx (talk) 12:03, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

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 * Resuming... - season 10 is now an FL, but season 12 needs peer reviewing for just 4 days' time, and season 11 needs to be an FL in just 14 days, so unfortunately I think there is still work to be done - rst20xx (talk) 19:13, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I think it may not be able to stay as FT since there is now some confusion regarding where season 10 ends.Tintor2 (talk) 19:25, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe we have a few months until we can clear the issue up 100%. Until then I propose carrying on as normal seeing as the list passed this morning despite the issue being raised. Judging by the comment above, it seems unlikely, but the more we get done now, the easier it will be to get the status again in the future if necessary. Dandy Sephy (talk) 19:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delist This has had more than 3 months discussion, on top of the expired retention period that prompted the nomintation. Waiting another 2 weeks until the next FL, then 2 weeks for that to run, gives us 7 months minimum. This is simply too long to be keeping sub-standard topics. It should be removed for now, and renominated when all reviews and promotions are finished (preferably with more than the minimum, such as season 12 being a FL, rather than waiting until after the deadline). Yob  Mod  08:11, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delist I agree with the above, it has spent far too long here, and with the current arguments at season 10, season 11 being nowhere near ready for a list yet due to lack of DVD releases, and season 12 currently being edited to fans, I can't see this being able to get back up in a week or two. Take down and renominate later. --Lightlowemon (talk) 03:29, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Close as demote - the efforts to save this topic produced and FL and PR so were certainly admirable, but ultimately another FL and PR are now needed, and I'm not seeing that there is the will here to do that - rst20xx (talk) 11:55, 14 October 2009 (UTC)