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2021 Masters (snooker)

 * Nominator(s): Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 00:12, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

This article is about the latest Masters championship from January this year. 20 year old Yan Bingtao won the event on his debut appearance. The Masters invites the 16 best snooker players in the world for a single-elimination bracket. I've spent a bit of time on this article, and gone through GAN earlier this year. Let me know what you think of the article. :) Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 00:12, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Image review
Kickstarting this FAC with an assessment of its images:


 * File:2021 Betfred Masters Snooker Tournament Logo.jpg has an appropriate FUR
 * I see no good reason to doubt that File:Marshall Arena Milton Keynes 6 July 2020.jpg, File:Kyren Wilson PHC 2018-4.jpg, File:Ronnie O’Sullivan and Hilde Moens at Snooker German Masters (DerHexer) 2015-02-06 01.jpg, File:Stuart Bingham PHC 2016-1.jpg, File:David Gilbert PHC 2016-3.jpg, File:John Higgins at Snooker German Masters (DerHexer) 2015-02-04 01.jpg, and File:Yan Bingtao PHC 2016-2.jpg are the uploaders' own works as claimed. It just feels overly monotonous to have all of them aligned towards the right; have some align to the left instead. For captions that include names of multiple people, it would help to specify who is who. You shouldn't just assume viewers will know figure it out right away.

Might come back with more later. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 03:00, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll put something on there (pictured) to show who is who. I don't feel that moving items to the left arbitrarily makes the article easier to read, personally. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:16, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * For the record, MOS:IMAGELOCATION says It is often preferable to place images of people so that they "look" toward the text. On another note, the caption for the Ronnie O'Sullivan picture still is ambiguous since two people are shown within it. You can use "(left)" and "(right)" to distinguish them from one another. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 23:57, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, but that also says that they should mostly be on the right. As much as having all of the images look at the text, I don't think this is particularly warranted; although happy to discuss. I have fixed the O'Sullivan image Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:54, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Support from BennyOnTheLoose
I may claim WikiCup points, if I consider my review to be substantial enough. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:59, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Lead: "Sixteen players were invited to the event, the highest from the snooker world rankings..." - how about something like "The top sixteen players from the snooker world rankings..."?
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Lead: "The World Professional Billiards and Snooker Association organised the tournament broadcast by the BBC and Eurosport in Europe, but was played behind closed doors because of COVID-19 restrictions." needs a bit of rework.
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Lead: Should be "Yan" throughtout, rather than "Bingtao" twice, I think.
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Overview: "The World Snooker Tour, a subsidiary of the World Professional Billiards and Snooker Association, " - this statement has been accepted in numerous reviewed articles, but as the WPBSA is a 26% stakeholder in WST, is it really right to say that WST is a subsidiary? WST is "administered by" World Snooker Limited, which is 51% owned by Matchroom Sport Ltd. Source
 * I have zero idea. The current wording was suggested by someone else (I think .) This will be wording we use a lot, so probably worth coming up with a suitable wording for the relationships in these. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Tournament summary:"Steve Davis referred to Yan as "naive" saying," - I think the comma should be a word earlier.
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Optional: Tournament summary: paraphrase "flying start and get his tail up"?
 * I'm not sure what I would paraphrase it too. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Tournament summary: There is a duplicate link for "plant" but might be worth retaining this as it could be an unfamiliar term to many readers.
 * I'm happy to remove or keep. I have no worries either way. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Tournament summary: The archived page for "Masters snooker 2021 – Yan Bingtao holds nerve to beat John Higgins 10–8 in gripping final" appears briefly for me but then blanks. I assume that "The odds were 50–1 against Yan winning the event" was the case before the tournament started - can the timing be added in?
 * Done. I've replaced with another ref anyway. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Tournament summary: "Other players appreciated Yan's play." - if this is about the Davis and O'Sullivan comments following, it seems redundant. Davis, who is mentioned earlier, isn't an active professional tour player, and O'Sullivan is also mentioned earlier.
 * Removed Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Tournament summary: Davis commented he was "impressed with his temperament" and his nerve" - stray quotation mark.
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Tournament draw: "Numbers given show the players' seeding for the tournament."- add that it is the numbers to the left of the players' names, and the numbers in parentheses for the final.
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Century breaks: source retrieval date has to be on or after 17 January to support the content, doesn't it?
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks to me like the captions are all sentences rather than sentence fragments so should all have full stops, per WP:CAPFRAG. (Happy to be corrected on this.)
 * This is one of those "rules that are mostly not true" deals, at least for me. I almost never use fragments in captions. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Caption: "making his debut at the event" - suggest slight reword as his actual debut match was against Robertson. Maybe something like "who made his debut Masters appearance at the event," ?
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * References: For Snooker Scene, "|magazine=Snooker Scene" rather than "|publisher=Snooker Scene"; location is Halesowen rather than Haloswen.
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * . I've replied to the above Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, any further thoughts on this nomination? Gog the Mild (talk) 15:43, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi I'm happy that the article is a suitable length, with an appropriate range of sources, is well-structured, comprehensive, well-researched, neutral and stable. I would like a view on the "subsidiary of" issue from others, and have a few more points, none fundamental. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:28, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Lead: slight tweaking needed for "organised the tournament and was broadcast by the"
 * Lead: "won the match 10–8 to win" - suggest changing either "won" or "win".
 * Overview: "Barry Hawkins, second reserve also" - I think either "second reserve Barry Hawkins also" or add a comma for "Barry Hawkins, second reserve, also"
 * Overview: (optional) "Initially, the Masters" to ""Initially, the 2021 Masters" as we were mentioning the 1975 event just a paragraph ago.
 * Overview: "organised the event sponsored for the first time by sports betting company" - maybe something like "organised the event which was sponsored for the first time by sports betting company" just to make it very clear that it was the tournament and not the WPBSA that was sponsored, which I believe is the statement being made.
 * First round - not sure about MOS - should it be "Gary Wilson" and "Kyren Wilson", or "Gary" and "Kyren"?
 * MOS:SAMESURNAME is the guideline, but I've read it a few times, and it seems to contradict itself. Anyone know for sure? Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:44, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * First round: "David Gilbert had been drawn against the world number one, Judd Trump; however, he had been replaced by Joe Perry" - is "Trump had been replaced" better?
 * Final: "Higgins had not appeared in the final of the event since he last won the 2006 Masters." reads to me like he won the 2006 event more than once. Maybe something like "Higgins had not appeared in the final of the event since he last won the Masters in 2006."?
 * Final: "At age 20 years, 11 months" doesn't quite read right to me.
 * Century breaks: consider replacing one instance of "made" in "made during the tournament, the highest was a 145 made"
 * Hi, I have made the suggested changes, all seems like suitable wording changes. My only issue is the Gary/Kyren wording, which I read both ways, as in the MOS I linked says that you should use both "Gary" and "Gary Wilson". Happy to fix up if there is a suitable way to deal with this, but it's a bit more difficult as they aren't related. This would be great to know, as they also played at the World's article I'm working on now. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:20, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your responses, . I'm happy to support. None of the other reviewers seem troubled by the "subsidiary" issue so I'm fine with that part being left as-is pending any new views. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:00, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments from Willbb234
As promised. Looks good. Please let me know if you have any questions. Kind regards, Willbb234Talk (please &#123;&#123;ping&#125;&#125; me in replies) 20:52, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
 * by sports betting company Betfred. "bookmaker" could be a more concise description.
 * Sure, but then it would read bookmaker Betfred, which I'd like to avoid. I think everyone would understand what a "betting company" is, but a bookmaker could be something like an accountant to those not in the know. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The defending champion was Stuart Bingham, who defeated... to "The defending champion, Stuart Bingham, had defeated..." for flow.
 * I've made the change, although I'm not convinced it's an improvement. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You could mention that Barry Hawkins was the second reserve player as this is what I believe he was.
 * Sure. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * to host an audience since the 2020 World Snooker Championship. you could include a date or month for this event for perspective.
 * Done.Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * See first comment regarding the second mention of Betfred.
 * A breakdown is shown below: "is as follows" might be more appropriate wording.
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The Masters began on 10 January 2021 we already know it's in 2021.
 * You'd be surprised - quite a few events take place in different years than their titles suggest! We do define this earlier, so I've removed from the summary. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Gary Wilson, world ranking number 18, you previously say Hawkins was ranked 18th. Presumably the rankings changed in this time, or is this a mistake?
 * Nope, typo. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Remove the duplicate link to 'fluke'.
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Steve Davis suggested Ding had "panicked", while the 1997 world champion, Ken Doherty here you give a mention about the achievements of Doherty, but not about Davis. Any reason for this?
 * Added Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * on the 14 and 15 remove 'the'.
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * played between David Gilbert and Wilson why do you refer to Gilbert by his full name here?
 * done. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Six-time champion Steve Davis see three comments above. This mention of his achievements should be moved upwards to his first mention. Also, why do you refer to him by his full name?
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * after a 47-minute ninth frame why is this length of time considered significant? You might want to clarify this.
 * I've added "lengthy". Almost an hour is quite a long frame. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:38, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Former world champion John Parrott described Higgins' performance as "spellbinding", whilst Stephen Hendry see five comments above for the same query.
 * done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:44, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Both semi-final matches were played on 16 January 2021 we already know it's in 2021.
 * done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:44, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * contested between David Gilbert and John Higgins any reason why you refer to them by their full names?
 * done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:44, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I've noted a general trend where you refer to players by their full names if they weren't mentioned for a while. Just wondering whether this is something you deliberately do, which is absolutely fine, or whether this needs to be addressed?
 * No problem., thanks for the review. You aren't wrong, it's mostly people putting links into the prose and me not catching they have first names as well. I have answered all of the above. I think the only thing I didn't implement is the "bookmaker" suggestion, which if you have alternate wording I'm sure we could deal with. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:44, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * If you're happy with how it is, then I don't have anymore suggestions. I'll hold back on a support or oppose for the moment as I'd like to see what others have to say, especially regarding a source review. Kind regards, Willbb234Talk (please &#123;&#123;ping&#125;&#125; me in replies) 10:54, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Aside from the source review (pending), is there anything below that might cause a lack of support ? Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:01, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * All comments look fine. I'll support as I don't expect the source review to reveal anything controversial. Kind regards, Willbb234Talk (please &#123;&#123;ping&#125;&#125; me in replies) 22:09, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments by Epicgenius
Forthcoming, reserving a spot here. Epicgenius (talk) 00:15, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, I know it's only been three days, just wanted to check this one hadn't slipped your mind. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:11, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. It did indeed slip my mind, since I recently had a midterm, but since I'm done with that now, I can take a look in a bit. Epicgenius (talk) 14:15, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Lead
 * Two players, world number one Judd Trump and Jack Lisowski, withdrew from the event after testing positive for COVID-19. - I think COVID-19 could be linked, at least for the future when that isn't as widely known.
 * Sure, but there is a link just above this for the pandemic in the UK. Happy to add, but I'd rather we linked it the other way around -> COVID-19 -> Pandemic. If we linked COVID below, it's almost as if we had already defined it. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:53, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh. I didn't see that. Whoops. Epicgenius (talk) 22:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)


 * (also referred to as the 2021 Betfred Masters for sponsorship purposes) ... The event was sponsored by sports betting company Betfred. - I suggest moving these closer to each other.
 * The top bit is WP:LEADALT, we could omit the "due to sponsorship", if you wanted but we should list official names in the lede. Having the sponsor higher in the lede would give it too much WP:WEIGHT in my opinion Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:53, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You're right. I guess the current wording works in that case.


 * Yan completed a 10–8 victory to win his first Triple Crown tournament. - For some reason, it seems redundant to say "completed a ... victory".
 * The alternative is Yan won 10-8 to win... Which isn't better. "Completed a victory" is better wording, but if you have anything better let me know. I always assumed it was a WP:LIMITED dealio. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:53, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright. I'm going to leave this alone for now. I would consider something such as "Yan won his first Triple Crown tournament with a 10-8 victory". Epicgenius (talk) 22:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Overview
 * However, the event was moved to the Marshall Arena in Milton Keynes, and played without spectators, to comply with stricter regulations against COVID-19 - Out of interest, how long before the actual event was it relocated?
 * A couple weeks, IIRC. I had tickets. :( Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:05, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oof, that sucks. Epicgenius (talk) 22:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * As defending champion Bingham was seeded first,[15] with the next seven players in the world rankings seeded and allocated fixed positions in the draw, where they met the remaining eight participants who were drawn randomly.[16] - I think you can just remove "as", because otherwise, the sentence reads like a run-on.
 * Hm, I was clarifying that because he was defending champion, he was seeded first (which is how it works). It used to be that the world champion would be seeded second, and then the world rankings, but that changed a few years back (O'Sullivan is second in the world, seeded third but is the world champion). I have split this into two sentences to avoid run-on. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs)
 * That works for me. Epicgenius (talk) 22:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)


 * which was sponsored for the first time by sports betting company Betfred, who replaced previous sponsors Dafabet - this is definitely a run-on clause, but you can change the semicolon immediately before this (after "organised the event") to a comma.
 * No problem. Done. I'm not a punctuation wizard I'm afraid. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:05, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

First round
 * Two former winners Shaun Murphy and Mark Williams met in the fourth first round match. - It may be a case of ENGVAR, but I would hyphenate "first-round" and put commas right after "former winners" and "Mark Williams", just to be clear.
 * "First round" is kind of like the name of the round, but I've added the commas. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * while the 1997 world champion, Ken Doherty - Similarly, I would put a comma after this phrase.
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Higgins lead 5–3, but Allen won the next two frames. - Here, I believe "lead" would be either present tense or plural present tense, but "led" is past tense and may be more appropriate here. Epicgenius (talk) 22:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Typo. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Quarter-finals
 * Murphy won the first two frames before Bingham won the next two with a break of 133 recovering from 0–58 points behind - Not a content issue but that is pretty impressive.
 * I don't think it should be, because those were seperate frames! I've reworded. winning 133-58 would be close to the highest scoring frame of all time. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah OK, I thought it was in the same frame. I should've read the tables below, but alas, I did not. Epicgenius (talk) 14:39, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yan Bingtao playing in his first Masters event - Should this be mentioned in the First round section? Or is it more relevant in this section?
 * Well, he wasn't the only debutant, him being 20 is quite important which is why I did it that way around. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright, sounds good. Epicgenius (talk) 14:39, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * O'Sullivan won the opening frame with a break of 97, but Higgins responded with a 110 and 145—the highest of the tournament – to lead 3–1 - There is an unspaced m-dash (—) in the beginning and a spaced n-dash ( – ) in the end. It should be consistent.
 * Agreed. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * whilst O'Sullivan backed Higgins to win the tournament after this performance - To me, it seems like "whilst" being repeated in consecutive sentences is somewhat awkward. Maybe an alternative like "though" would work
 * As is what I've used, as they are both saying how well Higgins played. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-finals
 * No issues here.

Final
 * Higgins had not appeared in the final of the event since he last won the Masters in 2006.[60] Yan Bingtao was appearing in his first Triple Crown final. - Would this be better as one sentence, or is it more appropriate keeping it as two sentences?
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * since O'Sullivan, twenty-six years earlier, in 1995, - If you write this as "since O'Sullivan in 1995, twenty-six years earlier," you can eliminate the first comma.
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

That's it for prose. It looks pretty good to me, and it seems at the level of quality for an FA. On a related note, I was pretty surprised to hear Yan won the Masters at his age, on his debut. Epicgenius (talk) 22:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It's a BIG deal! He's unlike the other Chinese players, who are very attacking players, he's much more of a tactician. It looks more and more likely he'll be the first Chinese world champion, but he lost to Murphy at the worlds this year. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, now I'm actually interested to see where his career path takes him, since Yan is only a little bit younger than me. I'm happy to support this nomination. I will note that I am claiming the above review for WikiCup points. Epicgenius (talk) 14:39, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll make sure to keep you up to date. ;). He also won the World Cup (snooker) aged 15! Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:43, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Support from TRM
That's all I have. Whoever did the GA review did a remarkable job... The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 19:38, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You use WPBSA in the infobox and refs but it's not explained.
 * Expanded/reffed Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "event alongside" comma after event.
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "been the first event" you mean in the UK snooker calendar I assume?
 * I mean snooker in general. I have put "first snooker event". I think this also includes all cue sports, but w/e Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "best-of-11 frames until the final" in a single session?
 * I always thought that should be implied. I think it's like cricket - you'd say it was a 5-day test match, or a 20Twenty game. Not much need to explain that it is a single session, I would just comment if it wasn't played all in one go. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Why not relink Eurosport in the main body?
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "In all other territories" I would remove "all" because are you sure all other territories had access?
 * I do, technical restrictions notwithstanding, the ref says that, and Matchroom pretty much have said that for all tournaments where World Snooker doesn't have a deal, you can access the streams through matchroom. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "match, Eurosport pundit" ah, you relink it here. Do it first time round.
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * ""The match was of high quality" Wikipedia probably shouldn't say this, did anyone else?
 * I've just contained this to the facts Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "making a plant,[64]" overlinked.
 * removed Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Perhaps link "odds" for "The odds were 50–1".
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Here's a pain for you: suggested (reasonably) today that scorelines should nowrap. Fancy that?
 * Ooh. Erm.... I feel like that's a big one. To be discussed shall we say. I can't say I mind either way, but it'd be a bit of work to get all of the articles up to date (potentially across all of wikipedia). If it's ok, mind if I defer to this? I'll get something posted up soon. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs)
 * "twenty-six years" -> 26
 * done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Why are the century/half-century breaks in italics in the table?
 * I have an inkling it's because they are equal, but I can't say I've ever seen it discussed that is a thing. (Same with italics for matches in progress). Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ref 9 has no website/work/publisher.
 * fixed Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Clive Everton can be linked as a ref author.
 * I tend not to link authors/publishers at all. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * If you're linking all publishers/websites first time round, do so consistently, e.g. Radio Times, Sporting Life etc.
 * Per above Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ref 32 has Eurosport non-italicised.
 * Done Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ref 66 suddenly Eurosport UK?
 * changed. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi . Covered the above. I'll write up a deal on WP:VPP (maybe, not really sure of a location) when I get a few minutes about the nowrap deal. It's interesting, but should probably do things correctly. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * There is something open at WP:VPR now. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * - My post at WP:VPR didn't get much traction, but otherwise I've covered the above Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, looks like my concerns addressed here. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 14:41, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

- I've got a series of supports, but awaiting a source review. Any issues with opening a fresh nomination? Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:18, 6 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but not until it passes a source review. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:56, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Feel free to launch your next one. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:46, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Source review by Amakuru - Passed
Reliability of sources and general queries: Sourcing mostly looks good at a high level. A few questions on specific sources: Otherwise all look good. I'll look at individual formatting and spot checks after we've discussed the above. Cheers &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 13:19, 9 May 2021 (UTC) Spot checks (numbers pertain to this version):
 * Ref 3 says "World Snooker", while Ref 7 says "World Snooker Tour". Are they the same thing?
 * They... Are. It's confusing, because "World Snooker" is now the "World Snooker Tour", but the tour that they run is also called the "World Snooker Tour". For consistency, we use "World Snooker". I've made the change Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:55, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * "Snooker Scene" - does this have an ISSN number and does the issue in question have any volume numbers etc? (I have found 0269-0756 as a potential ISSN)
 * - sorry mate, any ideas? I only get the scans each month and I don't know much about ISSNs. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:41, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 0269-0756 is the ISSN according the the British Library catalogue. (The ISSN isn't printed inside the magazine.) Snooker Scene doesn't use volume numbers, or, generally, even issue numbers. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:24, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh well, if the magazine itself doesn't have it then I guess it's fine. We know which date to look for anyway. Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 20:34, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * SnookerHQ - are we sure this is a reliable source? The articles look well-written, but from it looks like all of them are written by one individual, and I'm wondering if it's actually a self-published source.
 * Could be WP:SPS. I think David did some work for Eurosport in the past, but I can remove to be sure. I've got rid of one, the other I'll either remove the info, or see if it's commented on in Snooker Scene. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:20, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * "livescores.worldsnookerdata.com" - this site claims to be an official site of World Snooker, but I can't see it linked from their other site wst.tv. In any case, if it's World Snooker then let's mark it as such.
 * It is indeed linked from WST.tv, if you click on live scores. Is this a case of just adding WST as the publisher? Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:41, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, that seems a good idea, so it's clear to an observer that they're from the same publisher. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 20:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * livesnooker.com - where does this derive its reliability from?
 * It's run by Catena Media, been going a decade since 2011. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:53, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * OK then. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 20:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * snooker.org - ditto
 * Won various awards (from the BBC and Britannia amongst others) and is as good a source you are going to get for snooker results. Been going strong since 1994. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:46, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 7 and 8 - check out, although I did have to think a bit to interpret this one, since neither source directly mentions "rankings". I'll take it as inferred that the "seeding cut off point" means the rankings as of that date though.
 * 14 - checks out.
 * 18 - mostly checks out, although the bit about the final being played over two sessions doesn't seem to be there.
 * 26 - all there, other than the specific fact that Wilson was ranked 19 (the source says he was "on the cusp of the top 16")
 * 31 - this is the identical source to 26, so should be merged. Checks out for this fact.
 * The link is the same, the archive is not. The infuriating thing about sports reporting is that they now quite commonly don't change pages to report on things, they usurp their own content. That's why sometimes there are different titles to the ones that are in the article themselves Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:56, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 39 - checks out.
 * 47 - checks out for sentences a, b and c
 * 54 - checks out.
 * 61 - checks out.
 * 70 - checks out.
 * Maybe check those minor points above, but I think I can declare the spot checks as passed in this instance. I'd suggest add a few publishers where they exist, such as World Snooker for the "livescores.worldsnookerdata.com", and Catena Media for livesnooker.com, and then this is good to go. Cheers &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 21:29, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have done this now. Thanks for taking a look :) Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:56, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thanks for the speedy turnaround. I'm happy to support this candidate on sourcing. Cheers &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 10:07, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

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