Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/2nd Canadian Infantry Division


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by User:Raul654 19:07, 14 December 2008.

2nd Canadian Infantry Division

 * Nominator(s): Cam (Chat)

This article concerns the second of three infantry divisions in the First Canadian Army. Passed a GA-Review and MilHist ACR in August. EyeSerene recently completed a full-scale copyedit, and general tightening and reference work has been ongoing throughout the last week. Respectfully submit for FAC Nomination. Cam (Chat) 01:36, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Image review:
 * The link to www.canadiansoldiers.com as the source for Image:2 Canadian Infantry Division patch.png is dead and needs to be replaced.
 * fixed licensing so that the link is no longer required. Cam (Chat) 01:36, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The source, date, and author information for Image:Sgthamarshall.jpg should be amended to reflect where the image came from, when it was taken, and who shot the photo.
 * Fixed. Cam (Chat) 05:12, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The author information for Image:Bodies of Canadian soldiers - Dieppe Raid.jpg should reflect who took the photo.
 * Checked LAC, info could not be found, so I simply put "unknown" in instead. That's been acceptable in the past, would I be correct to assume that that's the case here as well? Cam (Chat) 05:12, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Please provide a source link for Image:Mapnorthernfront.gif. Evidence of the creator/author releasing the image into public domain should be evident through a link in the info summary. If Michael Dorosh is the image author, he should be contacted to change the source to self-made.
 * I can definitely attempt to contact Michael Dorosh (I've met him before..as he's a fellow Calgarian). That said, I do also know that his map-rendering skills are considerable, so I wouldn't be surprised if he made this one.  At any rate, I'll check. Cam (Chat) 05:03, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The source, date, and author information for Image:Canadian soldiers during the Battle of Groningen.jpg should be amended to reflect where the image came from, when it was taken and who shot the photo.
 * Done, although the author is unknown, I've changed to NAC credit and Canada-PD. Cam (Chat) 05:03, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Let me know if you have questions. Thank you. --Moni3 (talk) 01:58, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Followup: If the Public Archives of Canada claim the author is unknown, that's ok with me. Can you link the archive pages to their images for Image:Sgthamarshall.jpg and Image:Canadian soldiers during the Battle of Groningen.jpg or at least include their ID numbers? Thanks. --Moni3 (talk) 20:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Done for Sgt. Marshall. I'm still looking for Groningen.  Cam (Chat) 00:16, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Comments -
 * Your last reference .. is it supposed to be an external link? I don't see it used in the footnotes, so if it isn't used as a reference, please move it to an external link section. If it is used as a reference, it needs a publisher and last access date at the least.
 * Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:39, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed that one issue - it was an external link already used as a reference, so I've fixed that. Cam (Chat) 20:36, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Support; an excellent article. Although I don't want to hold the article's promotion back, I personally dislike the large lists included.  I think that those order of battles are better placed in "spiral" articles, and the organization to be described in paragraph form.  To me, it looks more professional, using the tables only as a visual aide.  Or, include the tables, but also describe it in paragraph form (the tables are still a visual aide).  JonCatalán(Talk) 06:08, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Agreed. Units are my thing and this one is all-around excellent. For the comment above, I'd recommend replacing the tables with the template, so they are less intrusive to the narrative of the article. - Ed! (talk) (Hall of Fame)  20:43, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment&mdash;Does this have any relation to the 2nd Canadian division that served in World War 1? Perhaps this could be mentioned in the text? Does this list show an accurate depiction of the divisional artillery, recon and engineers in 1939? I was wondering why the non-infantry units weren't listed for 1939, since they are shown in the 1944 table.&mdash;RJH (talk) 23:45, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It is of no relation to the 2nd Canadian Division. In WWI, they didn't specify division type, whereas in WWII the 1st Canadian Army fielded both infantry and armour divisions.  As for the divisional artillery and such, there was no specified organization for each division in the early days of the war; they simply relied on an overarching corps artillery and engineers that were not attached to the actual division.  Hope that answers your question. Cam (Chat) 06:03, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Support with Comments
 * The last sentence, about the deactivation of the division, is a little out of place on it's own. Can it either be expanded upon (Who gave the order, and why?) to create a whole paragraph, or integrated into the previous paragraph? Skinny87 (talk) 09:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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