Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/4 Minutes (Madonna song)/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by Dabomb87 16:10, 2 July 2009.

4 Minutes (Madonna song)

 * Nominator(s): --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 13:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because I believe it has all the qualities to be a Featured article for Wikipedia. I have worked on this article for quite long and ensured that all relevant references and prose have been perfected. This is my first FA nomination. --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 13:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose—1a and 2. I hate to start your first FA nomination like this, but I ran into problems as soon as I started reading the lead. I suggest finding an uninvolved copy-editor to run through. And much more. My prose examples were from the first paragraph of the lead. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "and features American singer-songwriter Justin Timberlake and Timbaland who also co-wrote and produced the song." There should be a comma after "Timbaland". This statement is contradictory to the next sentence, which states "...the song was written by Madonna and Timberlake" but makes no mention of Timbaland.
 * "The main idea behind the song was a sense of urgency" Very labored; could be "The primary/main [your pick] theme of the song was..." And I'm not sure that "a sense of urgency" is a theme or main idea, anyway; sounds like a feeling.
 * "The song also presents Timbaland's characteristic bhangra beats" The sentence would do better if it were connected to the previous like so: "Musically, "4 Minutes" is an uptempo dance song with an urban, hip-hop beat featuring instrumentation from a brass, fog horns and cow bells; the song also presents Timbaland's characteristic bhangra beats." Is brass a specific instrument? I always thought it was a family of wind instruments. If so, "a brass" doesn't make sense.
 * "Lyrically the song has a message of social awareness in it and was inspired by Madonna's visit to Africa and witnessing the suffering of the people there." More wordiness, and I don't think it's saying what you mean it to say. Are you saying that the song was inspired by Madonna's visit to Africa, or the lyrics? More imprecise writing: I doubt the fact that Madonna visited Africa inspired her; you probably meant to say "and was inspired by Madonna's witnessing the suffering of the people of Africa." ("visit to" is unnecessary).
 * Newspapers should be italicized (I see The New York Times italicized in one instance, and in regular formatting in another).
 * "Track listings and formats" should be using spaced en dashes (–), not spaced em dashes (&mdash;)
 * "a loud, busy, energetic track." Please see WP:LQ on logical quotation. The period should go inside the quote marks.

non free content a stunning excess Fasach Nua (talk) 21:05, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. The prose can be improved or tweaked as Dabomb87 has pointed out, however as Fasach Nua says about non-free content, I must point out that other Featured song articles like Irreplaceable also has the same number of non-free content which each of them are added to enhance the visibility of the points being discussed. I hope more reviews come up. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 08:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Im withdrawing teh nomination since I believe now as pointed above that a thorough copyedit is required before re-submitting it for FA. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 09:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


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