Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Air well (condenser)/archive2


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by SandyGeorgia 23:09, 18 March 2011.

Air well (condenser)

 * Nominator(s): Gaius Cornelius (talk) 13:27, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because this article is interesting and engaging. The story of high-mass air wells, which never worked, is a modern parable of how not to do science and engineering. The account of radiative air wells on the other hand may be of the greatest practical importance to people who live in hot humid climes with a lack of potable water. Active collectors that are practical and ecconomical are currently being developed. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 13:27, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Oppose - an interesting topic, but I don't feel the article is yet at FA status
 * Per WP:LEAD, lead for an article of this length should be at least 3 paragraphs
 * Manual of Style edits needed - spell out "%", don't start section headings with "The", etc
 * Done Gaius Cornelius (talk) 16:57, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * See here for a list of problematic links
 * Avoid stacking images and sandwiching text between images
 * Reference formatting needs to be much more consistent
 * Unfortunately France does not have freedom of panorama, and therefore your lead image (and the later derivatives) need different licensing and may need to be removed
 * Oh dear! That sounds rather serious. Might there be a way round this, the structure is quite old and it is not a work of art but a machine protected by a patent? Gaius Cornelius (talk) 07:49, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * How old, exactly? Is the architect still living? When was it patented, and by whom? French copyright law is not something I know a lot about, but more information might help resolve this situation. The other possibility is to argue that the structure does not meet the "threshold of originality" required for copyright protection - see the page I linked above for more information on that. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:01, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I read the link, I did not feel that I really understood it. The patent linked in the article is dated 1930 (there may well be earlier patents) and work on the structure in question started in 1930 too. The inventor was Achille Knapen, his company, British Knapen, was up and running in 1928 so it is very unlikley that he is still alive today. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 18:19, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Source links for File:Yeti_AC-12_atmospheric_water_generator.jpg are dead
 * Working link provided. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 09:20, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Captions should be grammatically correct and sourced where necessary
 * "Zibold's condenser was approximately the same size as the ancient stone piles that had been found, and although the yield was very much less than the yield Zibold had calculated for the original structures, the experiment was an inspiration for later developers." - source?
 * "Wolf Klaphake was a successful chemist working in Berlin during the 1920s and 30s. During that time, he tested several forms of air wells in Yugoslavia and on Vis Island in the Adriatic Sea. Klaphake's work was inspired by the works of Maimonides, a known Jewish scholar who wrote in Arabic about 1,000 years ago and who mentioned the use of water condensers in Palestine." - source?
 * Reference added. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 16:59, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * "Unfortunately, the aerial well never achieved anything like its hoped-for performance and produced no more than a few litres of water each day." - source? There are other unsourced statements that also need citations
 * Specific reference added. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 14:09, 17 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Need page numbers for citations to multi-page PDFs
 * What makes this a reliable source?
 * Article needs editing for clarity, tone and flow. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:16, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


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