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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by GrahamColm 22:39, 4 October 2012.

Altes Stadthaus, Berlin

 * Nominator(s): Thine   Antique   Pen  11:12, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because I wish it to be promoted to a Featured Article. Article became a DYK on 18 July 2012, and later became a GA on 22 July 2012. It is a translation of Altes Stadthaus (Berlin) on the German Wikipedia, where it is a FA. Thanks! Thine  Antique   Pen  11:12, 17 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Quick comment
 * There are already issues in the lead: "in Berlin is a former administrative building for the government of Berlin, currently used by the Senate of Berlin." three times "Berlin", is not really "perfect English". How about "is a former ... for the government of Berlin, currently used by the city's Senate."--Kürbis (✔) 10:26, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Done Thine Antique Pen (talk) 10:31, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Similar: "During World War II the building was damaged by Allied bombings, and more severely in the Battle of Berlin in the final months of the war. " During... and more severely in the final months of the Battle of Berlin".--Kürbis (✔) 10:26, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Done Thine Antique Pen (talk) 10:31, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * River Spree - river Spree--Kürbis (✔) 10:26, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Done Thine Antique Pen (talk) 10:31, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * A pronounciation of the title would be nice--Kürbis (✔) 10:26, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Done Thine Antique Pen (talk) 10:34, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Awful grammar, eg "including vases and 29 larger than life allegorical representations of the civic virtues and of Greek deities"--Kürbis (✔) 10:26, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Done - copyedited Thine Antique Pen (talk) 10:31, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Or "Hoffmann created a monumental building with five courtyards, in the words of the author of a 1914 monograph on him, in order to".
 * Done - copyedited Thine Antique Pen (talk) 10:34, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Overall I don't think it meets criteria 1a. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 10:26, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Quick comment - for non-German readers the double ss character is meaningless. I'd suggest recasting those for en.wiki, particularly the ones in the lead, so as to make it more readable. Or alternatively provide a translation of the street name - though I think simply substituting ss for the existing names would be fine. Truthkeeper (talk) 11:18, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Initial comment - Not much to say for now but ALT can be better. Overall, the prose in the article may be not upto FA class but it is not too far away as far as I see.  TheSpecialUser TSU 12:52, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 16:28, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Delegate's comment - There are problems with references 18 and 20: (Harv error: link to #CITEREFAlexanderplatzReferat_.C3.96ffentlichkeitsarbeitErnst_.26_Sohn1994 doesn't point to any citation. Harv error: link to #CITEREFF.C3.B6rderung_der_Wissenschaften1961 doesn't point to any citation.). Graham Colm (talk) 20:19, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed both. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 15:55, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Image review
 * Avoid sandwiching text between images
 * Fixed. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 16:28, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Map needs to be slightly bigger
 * Done. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 16:28, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Captions that aren't complete sentences shouldn't end in periods
 * Fixed. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 16:28, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Karte_berlin_stadthaus3.png: what source(s) were used to create this image?
 * Added to image page. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 16:28, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


 * File:Altes_Stadthaus_Zeichnung_Hoffmann_Front.PNG needs page number and US PD tag; same with File:Altes_Stadthaus_Zeichnung_Hoffmann_Seite.PNG, File:Altes_Stadthaus_Zeichnung_Hoffmann_Grundriss_2.png.
 * Requested to uploader on commons. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 16:28, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Nikkimaria (talk) 13:10, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm a bit concerned about File:Karte berlin stadthaus3.png where the map is based solely (according to the documentation) on a copyrighted Google maps source. Its a suitably complex map. Nikkimaria, what do you think? Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 15:04, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It was probably the best online source that I could find for it. The uploader is inactive on commons. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 15:06, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I the absence of any other source it looks like a derivative work of the copyrighted Google maps version. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 15:08, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I suppose it could, as the map was uploaded in 2006, and Google Maps was created in 2005. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 15:20, 23 September 2012 (UTC)


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