Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Birmingham Americans/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by Karanacs 19:35, 6 July 2010.

Birmingham Americans

 * Nominator(s): Dravecky (talk) 17:07, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because the article has been thoroughly peer reviewed by Brianboulton and passed as a Good Article by Miller17CU94 with improvements at each stage. I firmly believe that this article now meets the high FA standards. Dravecky (talk) 17:07, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment—no dab links, no dead external links. Ucucha 17:13, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Sources comment: All sources look good, referencing looks well organised, no outstanding issues. Brianboulton (talk) 23:30, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

(Note: Could someone fix the FAC link on the talkpage? Brianboulton (talk) 23:30, 21 June 2010 (UTC))
 * Got it.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 23:33, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Provisional oppose since there are no free images in the article, and I think the rationale for including the program cover fails FUC 8. Daniel Case (talk) 17:40, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have recently obtained (through the miracle of eBay) an unused ticket from World Bowl I which I can photograph and upload. It is entirely text, no logos, and the photograph will be my own work but I'll confess that I'm slightly fuzzy on precisely how "free" this image would be. If it's satisfactory, it can be easily added to this article (and the World Bowl one, of course). - Dravecky (talk) 04:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, that would be OK. Daniel Case (talk) 04:56, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Object As the team only played for one season, it is somewhat equivalent to a season article. Having said that, there is nothing about the playing style, tactics or strengths and weaknesses of the team, just a bunch of numbers about game results.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Comments – Nice to see something from before my time, as I love the sports history articles that come through here. Looked at the prose, and found a few things to point out in the piece I read, which unfortunately doesn't include the financial issues. They shouldn't take too long to work out, though.
 * "The team was owned by William 'Bill' Putnam doing business as Alabama Football, Inc." Very minor point, but there should probably be a comma after Putnam.
 * NFL should be spelled out, with the initials following in parentheses.
 * Franchise history: When was Putnam awarded the franchise? If that could be found, it would make some of the upcoming facts, in particular the "they had already invested" bit, more clear.
 * Don't think two CFL links are needed in this section.
 * Reference 10 doesn't say anything about color commentators; it only mentions Matson.
 * First half: Try not to start sentences with number like "40,367 fans sat through rain...".
 * "in their first nationally-televised game." Don't think the hyphen in here is needed.
 * "with 44,732 fans packing Soldier Field." Can it really be said that the stadium was "packed" when there would have been at least 10,000 empty seats?
 * Second half: There are a few things similar to above comments, including a number beginning a sentence and a few repeat links for teams linked in the last section.
 * UPI should probably also be spelled out.
 * Don't think Civic Stadium and PGE Park both need links when they go to the same place, and it's made clear in the prose that they are one and the same.
 * Post-season: "thus winning the World Bowl. The World Bowl...". The World Bowls are a little close together for my personal tastes. Can they be placed further apart?  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 00:50, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
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